Jude Chapter 1 Discussion Page 2

  • Tim Clifton on Jude 1:4
    Whatever "Ordained...." means in Jude 1:4, it has to do with the immutable counsel of God that transcends time and is far above our understanding. For who can know the mind of God, and can any of you be His counselors? If God is willing to put up with vessels of wrath (this is what ordained means) fitted for destruction, who alive can ask Him why, or have the slightest hope of understanding His ways. Is He fair? You'd better hope not: the cross proves that. Is He love? He is love, and a love that fits perfectly with His holiness, that would instantly slay us all in hell if it wasn't for a love that knows no human bounds. So what does it mean when He says, 'as many as were ordained to eternal life believed', or 'you don't believe because you are not my sheep'? It's certainly NOT because there is any goodness in us that He saw outside of time. No, no, it remains in His unknowable counsel that is both outside of time and our understanding. Your job and duty is to fall before Him in fear and honor, and give Him every breath you will ever breath in this life, for who can know His unsearchable mind?
  • Tonyp - in Reply on Jude 1
    Majesty-impressive stateliness, dignity, or beauty,also royalty
  • Tonyp - in Reply on Jude 1:7
    I felt that it was refering to homosexuality and beastality because it was talking about sodom and gomora and the actions of people there.
  • Worship on Passover Sunday on Jude 1:7
    Pagan Roots in Some Holidays

    Easter was originally the celebration of Ishtar, the Assyrian and Babylonian goddess of fertility and sex. After Constantine decided to Christianize the Empire, Easter was changed to represent Jesus. But at its roots, Easter (which is how you pronounce Ishtar) is all about celebrating fertility and sex.

    Ishtar(ProperNoun) A goddess of fertility, love, sex and war. In the Babylonian pantheon, she was the divine personification of the planet Venus. Assyrian and Babylonian counterpart to the Sumerian Inanna and to the cognate northwest Semitic goddess Astarte.

    Pagan goddess of Easter


    But in English-speaking countries, and in Germany, Easter takes its name from a pagan goddess from Anglo-Saxon England who was described in a book by the eighth-century English monk Bede. "Eostre was a goddess of spring or renewal and that's why her feast is attached to the vernal equinox."

    Passover is the Christian Holiday we Worship. Has nothing to do with the pagan Holiday of Easter.

    The word "Easter" (or its equivalents) appear in the Bible only once in Acts 12:4. This passage refers to Herod killing John, the brother of James. Peter was to be next, so Peter was put in prison until after the pagan holiday of Easter (for Jews & Christians, the Passover). That's the night the Angel of the Lord broke Peter out of prison! Hallelujah!

  • Ilya on Jude 1:7
    What strange flesh means? Is it race-mixing or bestiality or homosexuality?
  • Tobi on Jude 1
    May the grace of Our Lord Jesus Christ, the Love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be and abide with us for ever
  • G Wilson on Jude 1
    What is majesty?
  • Bob on Jude 1
    Verse 24 and 25 .

    With God all things are possible!

    He is more than able !
  • Bill on Jude 1
    These saints that Enoch spoke of where seen in Deuteronomy 33 v3 .
  • Susan on Jude 1
    How wonderful to know ,that JESUS is able to keep us from falling,but,then HE presents us before the presence of his glory with exceeding great joy.Now,today,in this very moment.Let's bow before Him in thanksgiving ,let us worship him.
  • Stanjett - in Reply on Jude 1:19
    If when we die as a believer, the Spirit goes to be with God, our old bodies do not. We will be given new bodies.
  • Jack Gutknecht on Jude 1
    The believer and the Savior ( Jude 1:24-25)

    1. Jesus' ministry ( Jude 1:24)

    a. His current ministry ( Jude 1:24a): Preventing us from falling down here.

    b. His coming ministry ( Jude 1:24b): Presenting us faultless up there.

    2. Jesus' magnificence ( Jude 1:25): "Glory, majesty, power, and authority belong to him, in the beginning, now, and forevermore. Amen."
  • Jack Gutknecht on Jude 1:25
    I love and have memorized this verse!

    A poem or hymn, rather, based on Jude 25 is

    To God, the only wise,

    In every age adored,

    Let glory from the Church arise,

    Through Jesus Christ our Lord.


    Words: Eleazor T. Fitch, in the Connecticut Congregational Psalms & Hymns, 1854.
  • Chris - in Reply on Jude 1:8
    Thank you Rev. Les for your thoughts on that matter. I must confess that I haven't given much consideration about "dreams" that come to us during sleep. I've always kept them separate from voluntary dreams (imaginations) to those that come to us involuntarily during sleep. But I can see what you're saying: that if our minds are so engaged (in this instance), in vile things while awake, then there could well be a reflection of this during those involuntary occasions. So, thank you for those added thoughts. Blessings.
  • Rev. Les - in Reply on Jude 1:8
    I am not sure I agree completely with Chris, and that's okay but here is what I see;

    This word:


    Middle voice from G1798; to dream: - dream (-er).

    Is the middle voice of:


    From G1722 and G5258; something seen in sleep, that is, a dream (vision in a dream): - dream.

    So, it can actually be like daydreaming of evil things or actually sleeping and having evil dreams. Jude 8, using the word "Likewise" is referring to verse 7 about the filthy people in Sodom and Gomorrah. It compares these people not only to the Angels who left their first estate, the Jews that were destroyed due to unbelief, but to the sexual sins of Sodom and the surrounding cities.

    If we are prone to Unbelief, Self Exaltation, or Dreams of Sexual Sins we must lay it before God and ask him to show us what is the root cause of these things. Confession and the power of the Grace of God can give us victory over these things. The Lord bless you both.
  • Adam - in Reply on Jude 1:19
    Hi Paul,

    Have you read Romans 8:9 ? This answers that question with 100% certainty. Man's opinion doesn't matter on this, only what God says and God said it clearly through his Word in Romans 8:9.

    God bless...
  • Paul A Moye on Jude 1:19
    In a Biblical discussion class I shared that everyone DOES NOT have God's spirit dwelling in them as on of the brothers had earlier mentioned. Now I'm beginning to doubt and wonder because thouhg not having the Spirit of Christ or the Holy Spirit could it be that all have the essence of God's Spirit in them giving that speak of light. So do all have God lvin in the or not?
  • Chris - in Reply on Jude 1:8
    Jude, in this passage was writing in condemnation of those who perverted the Truths of God & that we Christians should recognize them & to "earnestly contend for our faith". He speaks of the history of the Israelites who were saved from Egypt but many of them sinned later in various ways ( Jude 1:5); of the angels who left their first estate (Heaven), who sinned & are now held in chains awaiting judgement (v 6); of Sodom & Gomorrah who were given to licentious behaviour & homosexuality, now awaiting their doom in hell fire (v 7).

    So, in like manner (v 8), these "filthy dreamers" (those men of verse 4, "who crept (into their fellowship) unawares"), also preach similar errors, who despise authority & governments & speak evil of things they are ignorant of (v 10). So, "dreamers" are people that have imagined themselves to be persons of great knowledge or reputation & so having a 'godly' authority to bring 'God's message', which of course was not so & contrary to Scriptural Truths. Today, we might tell someone to "dream on", if they come to us with some outlandish statement or belief that something wonderful is going to happen to them. These dreamers (& "filthy" is not in the original text but an adjective to describe their similarity to the other wicked people mentioned), were bringing messages coming from their carnal minds & hearts of pride, rather than Scriptural based.
  • Wendy r on Jude 1:8
    I am not sure what is meant by 'dreamers.' Is it those who are 'asleep?' Or is it those who are interpreting false dreams and saying they are prophecies? I just don't understand this. If someone could explain this verse, I would appreciate it. Thank you.
  • Diane Smith - in Reply on Jude 1:9
    Thank you, Richard, for your reply. So kind of you to take time out of your day to respond.

    The tongues of those who are upright and in right standing with God are as choice silver!

    God Bless you brother.
  • Diane Smith - in Reply on Jude 1:9
    THANK YOU, Mishael, for your prompt reply! I love to study the scriptures and believe it is important to know the rules of engagement when dealing with the enemy. I appreciates the points you have made and have saved them for future reference.

    May He grant your hearts desire and make all your plans succeed Ps 20;14 NLT
  • How To Get The Devils Out Of Your Life - in Reply on Jude 1:9
    If the attack is against me, I say "In Jesus name, it is written; The Lord rebuke thee. Get thee hence!"

    It's good to use the Search Box and type in 'Authority' and hit the arrow. Every scripture on authority is listed. By reading all of them, it gives a clearer picture of what our Authority in Christ is. You can read all, Old Testament only, or New Testament only.

    Jesus gave us his NAME. We study how he used his Name to rebuke Satan and his demon operatives.

    Having good knowledge of scripture allows us to use it against the devils that know scripture too! If we speak the scripture with Jesus Name, those devils have to cease their attack.

    That where binding comes in handy. (The Lords Prayer). Whatever is bound on earth is bound in heaven.

    Bind the demons and send them into outer darkness and dry places.

    In Jesus name, Loose: angelic help, healing, deliverance, Emotional help.

    Only tithing is how we ask for help in finances. We establish trust in Gods plan to help us be blessed financially. When the plan works, we can ask for what we need and receive it. The plan is not meant to be legalized by well meaning preachers. God made a simple principal to follow:

    Minimum= adequate blessings

    Maximum= over and above blessings

    The plan operates on trust and obedience; with thanksgiving to God for His Word.

    In Matthews 26, we see reasons why we should share what we have, with others who lack everything. Then we honor Jesus's known plea for those who are in need.

  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on Jude 1:9
    Hello Diane,

    Just to give a little, personal, answer to your question. Whenever I hear temptations, or statements not from our Father, I use that exact phase. Or "God Almighty rebukes thee satan" along with others using the name of Jesus Christ to cast the devil away from me.

    Most of the time I myself don't even speak these things out of my mouth. It's mostly in my head or spiritual. You may have to repeat it several times. And do it with authority. God purchased you, you are His now. The Lord enjoys us keeping guard. Any bad thing cast it out.

    Hope this helps some. God Bless you sister.
  • Diane Smith on Jude 1:9
    Yes, Jude 1;9 "The Lord Rebuke thee"... as believers we have been given authority; Galatians 1;20-22 we are seated with Christ in heavenly places at the right hand of the Father...to rule and reign with Him, He is the head we are the body Gal 2; 5&6 Also Luke 10;19"Behold, I have given you all authority to tread on serpents and scorpions. I have given you authority over all the powers of the enemy, nothing shall by any means harm you. Also Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because Greater is He THAT IS WITHIN YOU, than he that is in the world. I John 4;4 ...So my question is When is it correct to say "The Lord rebuke thee"? Certainly Michael the archangel is more powerful (authority trumps power) than we are?? SO do we need to say the Lord rebuke thee.
  • Bob Grove on Jude 1:14
    Jude verse 3 plainly states that the FAITH was once delivered unto the NT saints , this is the Doctrine of Christ and of the Apostles.

    Nothing more is needed .

    2 Timothy 3 . 16 Confirms this .

    My question is where is the Trinity doctrine found in the bible ?

    This is the actual teaching and importance to follow the teaching .

    Who said it in the Bible .

    Yes we know that Jesus is one with the father . As he said he came from God , the Son of God come in the flesh . and never sinned as a man . He was the first of His kind , . That's not my question.

    Thanks I will wait .
  • Bob Grove - in Reply on Jude 1
    God made a new covenant with Israel, it replaces the old .

    Hebrews 8 verses 6 - 10

    Hebrews 10 16

    Hebrews 12.24

    And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant and to the blood of sprinkling , that speaketh better things than that of Abel .
  • Bob Grove - in Reply on Jude 1
    The commonwealth of Israel is Old Testament and New Testament saints .

    Ephesians 2.12

    Saints are found in the New and Old Testament .
  • Will - in Reply on Jude 1
    Saints is another name for Gods Children Israel

    14He also exalteth the horn of his people, the praise of all his saints; even of the children of Israel, a people near unto him. Praise ye the LORD.

    5 Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice.

    6 And the heavens shall declare his righteousness: for God is judge himself. Selah.

    7 Hear, O my people, and I will speak; O Israel, and I will testify against thee: I am God, even thy God.

    the only people that made a covenant with the Lord is Israel

    For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

    4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

    5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
  • Bob Grove on Jude 1
    In verse 2 at the end of the verse it says " the faith was once delivered unto the saints ".

    When did this take place ?

    Jesus taught the 12 apostles and before and after his crucifixion .

    Judas was replaced before Pentecost . The qualifications for the replacement was that He and not she had to witness Jesus from the time of Jesus Baptism by John the Baptist to Seeing Jesus alive from the dead .

    These men received the One and only completed faith . The Holy Spirit help in the understanding as Jesus left to be at the Fathers right hand . The Holy Spirit continues to this day to help us understand the written complete faith found in the New Testament . There are no revisions or add ons to the Apostles doctrine found in the books of the Bible .

    The doctrine should be very precise not a matter of vague interpretation , of which leads us to many denominations etc and room for heresy to breed .

    2 Timothy 3 v 16 , 17 It's all provable in the Bible . Since the apostles passed on evil men have made the faith many things . But the one faith remains in the scriptures , and with the Holy Spirits teaching you can find it and be assured of it ! God bless you as you seek the truth that sets us free from deception .
  • Jacqueline Lars on Jude 1:1
    Was Simon the brother of Jesus Christ that helped him carry the cross to his own crucifixion

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