Joshua Chapter 5 Discussion

  • Thelbert R Murphy on Joshua 5
    Love your site and all it's helps ! THANKS ! TR Murphy
  • Mishael - in Reply on Joshua 5
    There was an order in the processions. The singers went out in front. It's right to praise and worship the Lord who has promised to give the enemy into our hands.
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Joshua 5
    Amen Wina.
  • Wina on Joshua 5
    I've read about the times in the bible where angels have rebuked persons for attempting to worship them this case Joshua was encouraged to worship Him which leads me to believe that this was most likely the preincarnate Christ. Who else could have such great authority over the entire host of heaven? And then who else but God could have knocked down Jericho's walls as the Israelites obeyed His instructions to get it done? He was assuring Joshua that with His Godly power as Captain of the Host of heaven He would be there in the midst of it when the Israelites came against Jericho.
  • Marke - in Reply on Joshua 5
    That is likely so. Interestingly, however, the angel's response clearly showed he was not taking any sides in the fight but the Lord's side, and that was all that mattered. What is important is not whether the Lord is on our side, but whether we are on the Lord's side.
  • Giannis - in Reply on Joshua 5
    It is obvious that Joshua did not realise that the warrior who stood in front of him was a God's angel actually.
  • Marke on Joshua 5
    Joshua 5:13-14.

    When a believer asks God, "Are you for or against us?" he asks the wrong question. There should be no questioning of the Lord but an immediate declaration on the part of every believer: "I am for you, Lord, whether I enjoy what you are doing with me or not."

    Joshua 5

    13 And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries?

    14 And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the Lord am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?
  • David - in Reply on Joshua 5
    Hi Prasanth Through out Gods word angels or messengers of God always came into concretion to benefit man, as was shared by Chris in eastern culture, [bible is an eastern thought book] people who believed treated these beings with great respect and admiration.

    They are sent to serve and protect those who believe and those who God knows are going to believe. When the angel appeared to manoahs wife to announce the birth of a son she said it was a man of God that tells us what he looked like then manoah took it a step further he ask God what to do with the child. He didn't question or doubt what the wife saw or said remarkable, then God sent the angel again who gave great detail as to what to do.

    God will never give someone a task without giving the resources or info to perform His Will if we're listening. Then after the angel gave details manoah set up an altar to give thanks and since the angels job was done he went back to heaven from the altar in the flame, wouldn't you like to have seen that then it says verse 22 manoah says to his wife we will surely die for we have seen god. I think this is where manoah in his absolute awe went oops we're going to die because given the whole story if doesn't fit. In the book of Acts when the prison doors were opened the angel nudged Peter half asleep and the message was go stand speak to the people the words of this life. The true Gods messengers are always there to deliver protect and defend.
  • Chris - in Reply on Joshua 5
    Hello again brother Prasanth. This verse can seem confusing as one easily assumes that Joshua fell to the ground & worshipped the Captain of the Lord's hosts.

    Now this is the way I understand it (& by no means it will gain majority agreement). Looking at the Hebrew of this verse, it would appear that both words, 'worship' & 'bow down' would apply here. Some translations, as the KJV, show it as 'worship', while others use 'bow down'. Ordinarily, this could be a problem as it implies two quite different meanings. But if we understand that the outward form of greeting to an aged or honourable person in those days was a 'bending over' (as one would do for royalty), we may appreciate this better. However, verse 14 states that "Joshua fell on his face to the earth" before the Captain of the Lord's hosts, which could give it a further expansion on the 'bowing down' - it was not just a bending over, but a falling prostrate before this angelic presence. So did Joshua worship this angel or did he fall before him giving him honour due to him, as one coming from God's Presence? And this presence is also seen in the angel's command for Joshua to remove his sandals for the ground was now holy. Why? It wasn't holy ground before this time or else Joshua would have shown more care. Maybe because the angel was present & came representing the Almighty.

    Another interpretation that is often given, is that this event was a Christophany; i.e. the Angel of the Lord was a pre-incarnate appearance of Christ. I think many would adhere to this understanding, though I remain cautious because of other Scriptures of the pre-incarnate Jesus, as God's Word. Not saying that's not impossible, but I would need more proofs. Trust this helps you.
  • Prasanth Konde - in Reply on Joshua 5
    my question is very clear , how can he worshiped angel, as per the Book of law written by moses we should not give praises oto the Angels
  • Fred Scanlan - in Reply on Joshua 5
    The Angels desire to look into those things that live and move within the soul of man! This is how they glorify Him, exalting His kingdom through their praises! While we are His instruments on earth, they are the witnesses of the holy Spirit and its works within the soul of the believers! The same power Joshua had, is the power we have through the holy spirit!
  • Prasanth konde on Joshua 5
    Dear Sir,

    As per the scripture Joshua5:14 , Joshua worshiped angel, is it not correct as per Book of Law 10 commandments. But Joshua was treated as a leader and very close to god after Moses . Is the Angel is god or God came as an angel
  • Chris - in Reply on Joshua 5
    As you read the full account in Joshua chapters 6 & 7, you will find that Achan, son of Carmi (7:1) took to himself secretly of the "accursed thing". 7:21 lists the items that were included in the "accursed thing". So as the Lord (in 7:23, 24) commanded to be done, Achan, his family, his livestock were stoned till they died & all the accursed things, burned with fire. This might sound very harsh, but as in other cases where the people disobeyed the Word of the Lord, punishment came upon them. And this was done to both teach them not to trifle with God & to also remove the evil from the midst of the people.
  • Joyce on Joshua 5
    Kjv Joshua 6 :1 what did God tell the people not to take from Jericho
  • JesusFreak - in Reply on Joshua 5
    Chris-thank you for your reply. It is comforting to know that a total stranger cares of my hurt and emptiness. It has been a very long and very hard almost 13 months without my Patty. I have prayed for God to please take me so I can have some peace, so I can see my Patty again, but He insists that I continue living at least for a while longer. Yes, heaven is all about Jesus and His salvation and sacrifice for sinners like me. I just wish I knew what type relationship my Patty and I will have in heaven. Thank you and God bless you.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Joshua 5
    November's are hard for me. Everyone wants me to come to their house. They're all spread out in all directions. Act hurt if I don't show. I barely eat, so I inflate like a turkey. I'd rather be here to be honest.
  • Chris - in Reply on Joshua 5
    I'm sad to read of the loss of your dearest Patty & also of the emptiness that's in your life. These are the tragedies & griefs that come to us as we continue on in our mortal bodies & there is no escaping the pain, except for the heavenly balm that the Lord gives to His children & the hope that is set in our hearts for our future life in His Presence.

    "But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him" ( 1 Corinthians 2:9). What a blessed indescribable time that will be, when we shall see the LORD God Whom we love & the nail scarred Son of God Who secured our salvation. And praising him forever with the saints that have gone on before us & we also see our loved ones in glory.

    Isaiah 61:3: "to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified". I pray that God's Spirit might minister to your sorrow & emptiness, filling you with hope & praise for all that lies before you.
  • Chris - in Reply on Joshua 5
    It's so we can see how busy you are interceding for needy folk, brother
  • Jami on Joshua 5
    In what order does revelations give for the last days I always believe that Christians would not go through tribulations for when the last days start we will be called to heaven
  • Mishael on Joshua 5
    If you're wondering about some comments it's because I'm in the prayer request room. For some unknown reason it

    prints it in the comment rooms :0
  • Bendito Palavra - in Reply on Joshua 5
    And it fell on a day, that Elisha passed to Shunem, where was a great woman; and she constrained him to eat bread. And so it was, that as oft as he passed by, he turned in thither to eat bread. ( 2 Kings 4:8)

    A Shunammite is a person dwelling in Shunem.
  • Cynthia Sabbath on Joshua 5
    I Have a question; who or what is Shunammite and 2Kings 4:7
  • JesusFreak on Joshua 5
    Forgive me if I am wrong but I believe that God has things awaiting us that cannot be conceived by our mortal minds. My dear sweet Patty went to be with Jesus over a year ago. I am so empty and lost without her. God made us one flesh and I believe that that one flesh will continue throughout eternity. I know that heaven is all about worshipping our Jesus and should be but I also believe that God will reunite me and my sweet Patty and our love will continue.
  • Chris - in Reply on Joshua 5
    Joshua 5:1-7 seems to indicate that the rite of circumcision that is normally performed on male Israelite boys on the eighth day after birth, was not being done since the days of Israel's bondage in Egypt. While on their journey to the Promised Land, this act of being marked out as belonging to the God of Israel, was neglected during their onward march.

    So in verse 2, we read, "At that time the LORD said unto Joshua, Make thee sharp knives, and circumcise again the children of Israel the second time". This "second time" phrase is misleading & certainly cannot mean a re-circumcision as that is not really possible nor required. I feel that we can understand it to mean that "what Israel had neglected to do according to God's directions, they must now do as a second (or, renewed) act to perform. So these who will now been circumcised would not just be babies but also men, as the rite has been re-established, which was once overlooked.

    But if you're also enquiring about the rite of circumcision, then this physical cutting was the permanent sign required by God that Israel was a separated people, different from any other people or nation ("a token of the Covenant betwixt Me & you", Deut 10:16). If it were only a marking on the flesh, then this would over time be obliterated, but circumcision would permanently show a separation of a people to God. For the Christian, circumcision & all Jewish rites are not observed, as Jesus death & resurrection & gift of the Holy Spirit meant that it would no longer be our skin, but our hearts that would be circumcised, as sin would no longer reign in us ( Colossians 2:11). And this, God also would do for Israel ( Deuteronomy 30:6) which is what circumcision of the flesh should direct all God's people to have: circumcision of the heart. But how often we fail, as Israel failed - but we find forgiveness at the Cross.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Joshua 5
    The comment was posted in the Discussions Room. You can see it next door.
  • Sally Chaney on Joshua 5
    Hat was the significance of for circumcising all the men?
  • Emma on Joshua 5
    The mighty One in battle has proven to us time without numbers that the battle does not belong to us. The battle is the Lord's. So trust in Him, He will fight your battle for you. As He was with Joshua, so shall He be with His Children. verse 14 was a clear evidence of that. Praise the LORD Halleluja!!!
  • Emma on Joshua 5
    The mighty One in battle has proven to us time without numbers that the battle does not belong to us. The battle is the Lord's. So trust in Him, He will fight your battle for you. As He was with Joshua, so shall He be with His Children. verse 14 was a clear evidence of that. Praise the LORD Halleluja!!!
  • Jones Henneh on Joshua 5
    It gladden my heart to know firstly, that my enemy is dispirited because I have cross over.
    But what amazed me the most, is this awesome question asked, What do you see when you know your enemy is dispirited? He that is for you or against you?
    And finally, the heart of a true worshipper when he comes in contact with his savior, His heart cry is, what will you have me do?
  • Kengelmann on Joshua 5
    When Joshua sees the man with sword he asks the man if he is for them or he is for the adversaries. The man says 'as the captain of the host of the Lord I am now come". All I can say to that is Hallelujah!!

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