John Chapter 6 Discussion Page 4



 
  • Mike N1 on John 6:53 - 3 years ago
    So, if you are not Catholic, you are not fulfilling this command of Jesus.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on John 6 - 3 years ago
    J. Reid from Canada :),

    T. Levis from USA

    This is a hugely debated issue within churches 4 sure.

    John 13:34-35

    Romans 16:17-18

    2 Timothy 2:14-15

    If there isn't a rapture could it be the cause of a great falling away?

    2 Thessalonians 2:1-3

    Revelation 6:8-11

    GOD be with us all who believe, love & trust HIM, to strengthen, hold, protect & keep us faithful

    Jude 1:24-25

    John 10:28-29

    Genesis 5:21-24

    2 Kings 2:11

    Mark 16:19

    Acts 1:6-9

    1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

    Mathew 24:37-46

    I hope these are helpful
  • Bob Grove - In Reply on John 6 - 3 years ago
    Glad to hear ! Yes The Church will prevail by Jesus . It's not too late for others to repent and get right with God , as in the seven Churches . Jesus knows all and will not except a Luke warm church .
  • Bob Grove - In Reply on John 6 - 3 years ago
    Read revelation 20 v 4 ,5 , 6

    This is the First Resurrection . And all that believe in Jesus . John chapter 6 v 39 , 40

    Jesus said He is the resurrection in John 11 v 24 , 25, 26

    What people often refer to the rapture is actually the first Resurrection. There are not two Resurrections for Gods saints .

    That makes no sense at all .

    There are many more scriptures , but these should be enough . This is Jesus own words and teaching , are mans more correct ? That's why I find it easier to believe Jesus than any man .

    2 Timothy 3 v15,16,17 are essential to practice or deception is probable these days . Since the 1800s we have been bombarded with heresy and cults . Look at all the date setters proven wrong . The list is long .
  • Bernard Smalls on John 6 - 3 years ago
    This is prophetic, a time to come - treasure was heaped up FOR the last days...
  • J. Reid - In Reply on John 6 - 3 years ago
    Good day:

    My question concerns the meaning and/or use of the word "rapture." Through my recent study of God's Word, my understanding of the word, rapture is to depart as departure, leave, exit, caught up, etc.



    Many fellow believers believe in pre, mid, or post Tribulation. Others do not believe in a Rapture. This has caused much confusion on my part.

    My question has 2 parts: What is the True Meaning of Rapture and When does the Rapture Occur? [Scripture supported answers]

    Thank you, Kindly

    God bless

    J. Reid from Canada
  • Donna Williams - In Reply on John 6 - 3 years ago
    Thanks Bob:

    Yes I do agree, and I am grateful that Jesus has already forewarned us. We should be paying attention to the signs.
  • Bob Grove - In Reply on John 6 - 3 years ago
    Only the father knows the actual day . But all the signs Jesus plainly told us , like for example the moon goes red the sun goes dark , armies of the world surround Jerusalem.

    And the Antichrist must appear after the following away .

    Yes be ready to go through much , The Lord will be our way through it all . Amen !
  • Heidi Avent on John 6 - 3 years ago
    Did the new church honored the Sabbath?
  • Natasha Bell on John 6 - 3 years ago
    I admit 2 god that i am not living fully theway ishould do u think by asking him for something i want he would bless me with it?
  • Chris - In Reply on John 6 - 3 years ago
    I can't think off hand of any biblical reference to 'person/persons' to the Deity, as this seems to rather be our own use of such words to describe the Triune God.

    However, I think it's interesting your mention of the meaning of 'being made in the Image of God'. If we understand the Trinity to be Almighty God expressing Himself in His Word & His Spirit, which 'persons' He can send forth whenever & wherever He chooses as part of His Existence & Activity, then true, the creation of man cannot be compared to the tri-personage of God. We are essentially spirit, clothed in a body & with a mind & conscience akin to the Deity, yet far removed from Him. Probably, Adam & Even in their unfallen state, would more closely resemble the Image of God portrayed to us, by their purity, innocency, obedience, etc., all of which were corrupted by the fall & now our inescapable lot.

    Therefore, it is my understanding that the 'Image of God' application to mankind can't be an exact replica of the Godhead, in as far as Who God is, but rather, having been endowed with sufficient godly qualities & abilities (though now corrupted by sin), we can now identify more closely with our Maker, in understanding His Word, His Love, & reflecting these & other divine qualities to others around us. So for necessity sake, our sins & fallen nature had to be dealt with at the Cross, so that we may have at least a renewed, enlivened spirit that brings us back into harmony with God's Purposes for His children. Though still in a weak & corrupted body, our spirits now long for the One Who longingly waited for us, so at least a part of our personal trinity (spirit, soul & body) may now be acceptable to Him: by His Grace & Power alone.
  • Pat on John 6 - 3 years ago
    Is the word "person or persons" associated to the Godhead anywhere in the scriptures?

    The reason I ask is this; if we are made in the image of God, then nowhere in the scriptures does it state that we have three persons in our being as God created us!....hence how are we to understand the epistemology of Genesis 1:26?
  • Emmanuel Buhari on John 6 - 3 years ago
    Verse 2 wants us to have a prosperous soul which is of the inside. It is the prosperous soul that manifest in the physical that brings about good health and prosperity. The Devils should not limit us in any way. We shall live in health and prosper.
  • IGO NAIME on John 6 - 3 years ago
    Prayer and fasting
  • Psalm 10515 - In Reply on John 6 - 3 years ago
    He's preaching from the book of acts 3000. Does anyone know what that is? Just curious...
  • Carleton - In Reply on John 6 - 3 years ago
    Hi Bob, are you speaking of Amillenialism?

    Carleton
  • Donna Williams - In Reply on John 6 - 3 years ago
    The word rapture is not found in the Word of God, but 1Thessalonians 4:17 reveals that the saints who are alive and remain at the Second Coming of Jesus Christ shall be caught up together with them (those who have fallen asleep in Christ), in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. The words being "caught up" is the Resurrection of the Saints. I do not believe that we should form an opinion of whether or not He is coming pre, mid, or post tribulation. The truth of the matter is Jesus already told us we don't know the day or the hour when the Son of Man is coming, so how is it that we are having disputes over when He's coming. Jesus said, "Watch, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour that ye think not." Matthew 24:44 & Luke 12:46

    What is Jesus saying, He is saying that we must be ready at all times. For He is coming as a thief in the night!
  • Bob grove on John 6 - 3 years ago
    Thank God for the Bible and the truth !

    Most likely will not find much in the comments here !
  • Bob Grove on John 6 - 3 years ago
    Jesus said he would raise up all that believe in him on the last day x times in this chapter . and in John 11 he also said he is the resurrection.

    So how is it possible for a pretrib rapture ? Are you going to be resurrected twice ?

    Jesus is coming 3 times ?
  • OBBIE BEAL on John 6:38 - 3 years ago
    39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

    40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

    44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

    54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

    Note: as it relate to death, Yes! mankind has entered into death since Adam & EVE, never-the-less 4 times above JESUS gave them and us HIS assurance of HIS power over death, therefore we need not be fearful of death because once we rightly apply John 3:16-21 or similar verses we have assurance from JESUS we shall be raised up at the last day. PLUS.....

    Note: Revelation 7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to HIM, for The Marriage Of The LAMB is come, and HIS wife hath made herself ready. 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. 9 And HE saith unto me, write, blessed are they which are called unto The Marriage Supper Of The LAMB. And HE saith unto me, these are the true sayings of GOD.
  • Bob Grove on John 6:38 - 3 years ago
    Verses 39 , 40 , 44 , and 54

    Jesus said he will raise up all believers on the last day .

    Don't be in a hurry to escape .
  • Linda Rodriquez on John 6:63 - 3 years ago
    When we speak the Word of God we are speaking God Himself into the situation. God and His Word are the same - one. God is a Living Spirit, and His Word is Living Spirit and Life, and full of God's Power. When we speak the Word into any situation or circumstance, we are bringing God on the scene with all of His Life and Power to work in our behalf. It is a Holy Mystery. Awesome
  • Linda Rodriquez on John 6:63 - 3 years ago
    The Word of God is God. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God (Jesus), and the Word WAS GOD" (St. John 1:1). I take this literally not symbolically. Whenever I speak the Word of God to any part of my body or situation, I am actually bringing God into the situation. Because God and His Word are one! It is a Holy Mystery and cannot be understood with the natural mind, but my born-again spirit knows and understands. Awesome !!
  • Mishael - In Reply on John 6:38 - 3 years ago
    Revelation 14:1

    And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb (Jesus) stood on the mount Zion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

    Revelation 7:4

    And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

    Revelation 14:3

    And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
  • After the Tribulation - In Reply on John 6:38 - 3 years ago
    I learned something today. I'm glad you made this comment.

    We need you to come back, often as as you can, and show us other Rhema truths That the Holy Spirit has opened to you.

    I asked the Lord once, what happens with these people that are preached to by the 144,000 preachers during the Tribulation; the people pray to receive Jesus; they survive physically.

    Will their bodies be transformed?

    Why is Satan released to tempt? Who is he going to tempt?

    It's a mystery that will not be revealed fully, because a lot of people would procrastinate and think, "well I'll just wait till the last minute to ask for salvation." That's not an attitude of worshipping and adoring our Creator and Lord; desiring to be with Him for eternity.

    They would risk being caught and beheaded for not accepting the Mark of the Beast and refusing to worship Antichrist.

    The world has all kinds of new surveillance technology now: drones, infrared.

    It will be a true blessing to not live in those kind of invasive methods. In heaven we can worship in spirit; no constraints. Yay.

    Any comments?
  • Barbara Roberson - In Reply on John 6:38 - 3 years ago
    I am not sure about the 14400 Maybe u could expond on it.
  • Eugene Jenkins on John 6:38 - 3 years ago
    When or during my time in studying the jkv i began to notice that in the reference column that from a-i the alphabet was in the right order but after i there no letterj and went to the letter k and i used to wonder about that missing j as to why? was this j was missing and it took me years of studies before i found out that the letter j was not invented until 14-15oo is when that letter was first invented so that is when the name jeses was first used and i know that you all knew this before i did but you never ever try to teach the truth,why?you need to question yourselves and since you know the truth you need to do better research on the true name of the creator yah and his son yahshua and what the scriptures says about "we should not bring the father name to nothing or in vain they teach my people lies,you know what it says about the 144ooo you know that the only church that teach and preach in the true name is the church of philly(church of brotherly love)your own soul and the souls of millions will die and lose their souls because you all did not teach the truth when you could have saved millions of miss guided do not lose your soul
  • Kay - In Reply on John 6:38 - 3 years ago
    We are seated with Christ in the heavens with him as soon as we are saved where we are blessed with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ Jesus. The dead who know nothing at all (psalms) are all those who died before Christ came. Some came out of their graves immediately when Christ was crucified and the earthquake happened. The others will be resurrected when he returns, but we who are saved by his blood go to be with him immediately, exactly as he said it to the believer who was crucified right next to him. Today, you will be with me in paradise. That paradise, the New Heavens, IS Jesus, and is inside of HIM, where no evil can enter in. It is finished. Thank you victorious Lord Jesus, my God and savior.
  • Covenant of the Rainbow - In Reply on John 6:38 - 3 years ago
    And God spake unto NOAH, and to his sons with him, saying,

    9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;

    10 And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth.

    11 And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.

    12 And God said, This is the TOKEN of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:

    13 I do set MY BOW in the cloud, and it shall be for a TOKEN of a covenant between me and the earth.

    14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that THE BOW shall be seen in the cloud:

    15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.

    16 And THE BOW shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.

    17 And God said unto Noah, This is the

    TOKEN of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.

    I don't know about the colors. I don't care to hear meteorologists try to explain rainbows like they're nothing. It's Gods Bow and His solemn promise with the earth.
  • Tarry One Hour in the Prayer Room on John 6:38 - 3 years ago
    Matthew 26:38

    Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.

    Mark 14:34

    And saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful unto death: tarry ye here, and watch.

    Luke 24:29

    But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them.

    Mishael


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