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6:66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
the Jews were well aware of the laws against the consumption of blood. They understood Jesus was speaking literally, if not why would they walk away??? and why would Jesus let them walk away if they misunderstood Him ???
6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the "BREAD" that I will give "IS MY FLESH", which I will give for the life of the world.
6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Jesus was not speaking about His flesh. Consider this, is the flesh of Jesus of no profit? What about His Incarnation ?How could he speak about his own flesh profiting nothing when he just said over and over ( John 6:51 etc)that His flesh is the life of the world just before telling them it profits nothing ? If Jesus was talking about his own flesh when He said the flesh profits nothing, then he would be contradicting Himself ! Jesus declares approx. 10x in John6 the need to eat his flesh and drink his blood and never once indicates his meaning is not literal. By emphasizing to them that what He said about His flesh & blood is "spirit & life" Jesus was dispelling the notion that all they should be concerned with is having flesh to eat for physical life
_Rosalina_Sayson_Ko_Tapay_ on John 6 - 10 years ago
@Ock
John 6 clearly defined the BREAD OF LIFE and that is Our Lord Jesus Christ ( John 6:48). He is the bread of life because if you BELIEVE in HIM you will have EVERLASTING LIFE ( John 6:47). He was talking about the "SPIRIT" that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth NOTHING: the WORDS that HE speak unto us, they are SPIRIT, and they are LIFE ( John 6:63). The BREAD was said to be "he that cometh to me shall never hunger"; and the blood was said to be "he that believeth on me shall never thirst" ( John 6:35). THEREFORE, "IF YOU COME" to Him then you have EATEN the "BREAD OF LIFE" and "IF YOU BELIEVED" on Him then you have DRUNK the "BLOOD OF CHRIST".
John 6:51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give IS MY FLESH for the life of the world." John 6:52 The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, "How can this man give us "HIS FLESH TO EAT?" John 6:53 Jesus said to them, "AMEN, AMEN, I say to you, unless you EAT THE FLESH of the Son of Man and DRINK HIS BLOOD, you do not have life within you. John 6:54 Whoever EATS MY FLESH and DRINKS MY BLOOD has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. John 6:55 For MY FLESH IS TRUE FOOD, and MY BLOOD IS TRUE DRINK" John 6:56 Whoever EATS MY FLESH and DRINKS MY BLOOD remains in me and I in him.
Many argue that Jesus was really saying "this represents (not is) my body and blood." However, Aramaic, the language that Jesus spoke, had over 30 words for "represent," but Jesus did not use any of them. He used the Aramaic word for "estin" which means "is.
St. Ignatius of Antioch (35-109 A.D.) "Disciple of John," From Eucharist and prayer they hold aloof, because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the FLESH of our Savior Jesus Christ....just as where Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church"
The closeness of God to the working of Jesus is shown in his saying, "Whatever you ask my Father In my name "believing", He Will Do it. this is a direct promise of Jesus the Christ. he cannot lie, so be it.
If you may reflect on the character of Jesus through out this chapter we see a humble leader a humble form of teaching,he could be asked questions and answer them even with reference to that wich had happened before to the Isralites coming from Egypt Im not sure if it was written or not but it was a truth known to the people he spoke with,maybe if our preachers today learn from the ministry of Jesus Christ and not make preaching seem like a perfomance but an interaction,because not everyone understands the words said,in this day its so much words so little taught.
I just love receiving Jesus Words, into my heart, and in my mind, and in my soul, and in my strength.,. John 6:63, It is The Spirit That Gives Life, The flesh counts for nothing...
The Words I Speak Unto You Are Spirit, And They Are Life...
John: 3: 5, 6, Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. John: 3- 18, He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the NAME of the only begotten Son of God. Thank You Jesus...
The flesh profits nothing because the feelings and/or will of the flesh is rooted in sin, bringing only devastation and failure. The Spirit is rooted in Christ, bringing with it power, love, and soundness of mind.
I am realy touched by this chapter. It is regretable that many of Jesus' desciples left him when they failed to understand the eating of flesh and the drinking of Jesus' blood!!
Nevertheless, I am much encouraged by Simon Peter's answer on 6v68, when he indicated that they were there to stay;why? Because Jesus alone has taught them the words of eternal life and they believed Him.Even me today,I am here to stay,nomatter what mr devil do or say concerning my life!!!!! No, I am here to stay-Amen and Amen!!!!
The first part of the verse tells us to be detached from p***ing worldly things and attach to heavenly and lasting realities. The second part which was interested to me is that God has ***igned Jesus as His mouthpiece and not as "the Seal of the Prophets" declared by Muslims for Muhammad the prophet and claim to be the "last prophet" and as other past religions believe in the finality of the Prophets. In this verse though Jesus attested and sealed as the saviour of the time, but it doesn't mean that He is "The last One", Please ponder on this truth for a while. Regards
It makes it very clear, that God chooses us, we do not choose Him. To be one's chosen or elect, means that someone else is doing the choosing or electing and it certainly is not us. God causes our will to line-up with His calling. He is sovereign and can choose whomever he wants to be His children, whether we like it or not or whether we feel it is fair or not. Romans 8:20 and 9:19-24 make it very clear.
So many believe that Jesus meant this symbolically. In fact, it is the ONLY documented many of His followers leaving Him over something He said ( John 6:66). If it was symbolic, then He surely would have said, "Remember those parables? This is one. Come on back!" Instead, He simply asked the apostles, "Will you leave too?"
What I understand from John is that Jesus was in the beginning. He was the word. He was with God and he was God. He became flesh and dwelt among us. But some of us did not recognize him, which some people still don't today. He tried everything to be close to us for us to love him, trust him and believe in him. However the devil tries to put disbelieve in our mind. Even though he is not here in the flesh, I believe in his word. Worry is not in my vocabulary, because I pray about everything and trust God. Nothing can happen to me unless God allows it. Therefore I trust him in all things. There is not a friend to me like Jesus. He is everything to me. He heals me when I get sick because I believe in him.
Everyone needs to understand the HUGE difference between what Jesus is saying in verse 53 and verse 54! In verse 53 Jesus is saying that the Son of man will demand people accept his false religion/doctrine or die/be killed. What Jesus says in verse 54 means if people accept the Christian doctrine of Jesus, they will have eternal life. Jesus has called Bread "doctrine" in scripture. St Matthew 16: 11, How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees? 12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
God has designed and prepared a way of escape for every person, ever born. Genesis 18:14 God asks humanity," Is there anything too hard for God?" When we modernize this verse, is there anything too great to expect from His Truth, His Power, or even His Love? God is EVER-READY to save any soul that's willing to yield (humbly believe) to His Holy Word.
This chapter is by far one of the most impassioned pleas made by Jesus for man to believe in His word and live by his word. It seems to me that Jesus is trying different ways to get it through to man that God will forgive all your sins and give you eternal life if only you believe in Him.
John 6:2, The people followed (continuously) Jesus (The 4th miracle of Jesus), they had some conviction but he fed them. The Feast of Passover was nigh. The multitude was hungry, Andrew said there is a lad with 5 loaves and 2 small fishes Jesus blessed it. This Small amount of food fed over 5 thousand and gathered 12 baskets of fragments. Jesus manufactures, we as the saved are the distributors, what little things we have, God will Use to help others. Our help comes from Jesus not government. The Gestapo in Nazi, Germany began on April 20,1934 used 13-14 year old boys/students to spy on citizens and report back to Nazi leaders, these students along with others were not in uniform. When the boys ended up in the concentration camps they were fed little Food. They would scream, cry out at night. The officers and Doctors started giving them 1 small loaf to keep them at night. That gave them Hope for the next day. They slept through the night. Trust Jesus, He is God, his help is overflowing and will never end.
Dear brothers and sisters, Eating and drinking Jesus' flesh and blood is to follow His teachings. Mainly love God and mankind eternally, even though he or she is not follower of Jesus. But he or she that obeys His commandments will be saved. Murderers and evildoers are out.
@Eileen,
Forgiveness is a choice that you make by the grace of God through Jesus Christ who chose to forgive you and all men, though no man has ever suffered as He did. Eat His bread and drink His blood and you will have His life in you, to forgive without a struggle.
I think that it is exactly what it is said: � one of you is a devil, Jesus said that Judas was a devil. Being a disciple he was not enough for being clean according to John 17:17.
I believe that chapter 6, is a basic example of life. Just as he fed all those that were there the believers and the non believers. This is in essence what has happened throughout all generations. We are all feed the word of God, some of us take the words to heart and follow him while others are after food (or God�s word) just as there are professional students that love to study there are those that are professional Christians. They love to hear the beautiful words they love the fellowship they believe they are where they need to be. But to them these are just beautiful words when the words are not in agreement with their life styles or their beliefs they move on to someone else that will say what they want to hear. The father�s words are meant to be followed and obeyed. It is not a question of whether the word appeals to us, it�s a question of how do I fulfill the father�s word how do I do that which is right, not to my pleasure, but his pleasure.
Eileen god is using you spiritually and everyone in their lifes are going through the same things as you have. We fight many battles in our life to get close to god. But you will be strengthen in times of trouble. The devil will use everything he can to stop you from serving god and going forward with him. The devil will do a complete search in your life of all the things that bother you and use it to stop you from serving god. God once told me when I was going to quit he said to me I hate a quiter he said the funnies thing to me god said pulled your boot straps up dust yourself off and move on. He was telling me you can keep feeling sorry for yourself or you can get back on the path and keep moving on forward the prize, Jesus.
6:66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
the Jews were well aware of the laws against the consumption of blood. They understood Jesus was speaking literally, if not why would they walk away??? and why would Jesus let them walk away if they misunderstood Him ???
6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the "BREAD" that I will give "IS MY FLESH", which I will give for the life of the world.
6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Jesus was not speaking about His flesh. Consider this, is the flesh of Jesus of no profit? What about His Incarnation ?How could he speak about his own flesh profiting nothing when he just said over and over ( John 6:51 etc)that His flesh is the life of the world just before telling them it profits nothing ? If Jesus was talking about his own flesh when He said the flesh profits nothing, then he would be contradicting Himself ! Jesus declares approx. 10x in John6 the need to eat his flesh and drink his blood and never once indicates his meaning is not literal. By emphasizing to them that what He said about His flesh & blood is "spirit & life" Jesus was dispelling the notion that all they should be concerned with is having flesh to eat for physical life
John 6 clearly defined the BREAD OF LIFE and that is Our Lord Jesus Christ ( John 6:48). He is the bread of life because if you BELIEVE in HIM you will have EVERLASTING LIFE ( John 6:47). He was talking about the "SPIRIT" that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth NOTHING: the WORDS that HE speak unto us, they are SPIRIT, and they are LIFE ( John 6:63). The BREAD was said to be "he that cometh to me shall never hunger"; and the blood was said to be "he that believeth on me shall never thirst" ( John 6:35). THEREFORE, "IF YOU COME" to Him then you have EATEN the "BREAD OF LIFE" and "IF YOU BELIEVED" on Him then you have DRUNK the "BLOOD OF CHRIST".
Manger translated means eat.
Bethleham (bread) + Manger(eat) = Eucharist
Could not be any clearer !!!
John 6:52 The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, "How can this man give us "HIS FLESH TO EAT?"
John 6:53 Jesus said to them, "AMEN, AMEN, I say to you, unless you EAT THE FLESH of the Son of Man and DRINK HIS BLOOD, you do not have life within you.
John 6:54 Whoever EATS MY FLESH and DRINKS MY BLOOD has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.
John 6:55 For MY FLESH IS TRUE FOOD, and MY BLOOD IS TRUE DRINK"
John 6:56 Whoever EATS MY FLESH and DRINKS MY BLOOD remains in me and I in him.
Many argue that Jesus was really saying "this represents (not is) my body and blood." However, Aramaic, the language that Jesus spoke, had over 30 words for "represent," but Jesus did not use any of them. He used the Aramaic word for "estin" which means "is.
St. Ignatius of Antioch (35-109 A.D.) "Disciple of John," From Eucharist and prayer they hold aloof, because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the FLESH of our Savior Jesus Christ....just as where Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church"
The Words I Speak Unto You Are Spirit, And They Are Life...
John: 3: 5, 6, Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. John: 3- 18, He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the NAME of the only begotten Son of God. Thank You Jesus...
Nevertheless, I am much encouraged by Simon Peter's answer on 6v68, when he indicated that they were there to stay;why? Because Jesus alone has taught them the words of eternal life and they believed Him.Even me today,I am here to stay,nomatter what mr devil do or say concerning my life!!!!! No, I am here to stay-Amen and Amen!!!!
Forgiveness is a choice that you make by the grace of God through Jesus Christ who chose to forgive you and all men, though no man has ever suffered as He did. Eat His bread and drink His blood and you will have His life in you, to forgive without a struggle.