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  • Confession of Faith on Repentance and Reformation-being born again for verse 43
    "We believe and confess that, since the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth, and, therefore, prone to all unrighteousness, sin, and wickedness, the first lesson of the precious New Testament of the Son of God is repentance and reformation of life, and that, therefore, those who have ears to hear, and hearts to understand, must bring forth genuine fruits of repentance, reform their lives, believe the Gospel, eschew evil and do good, desist from unrighteousness, forsake sin, put off the old man with his deeds, and put on the new man, which, after God, is created in righteousness and true holiness; for neither baptism, supper, church, or any other outward ceremony, can without faith, regeneration, change or renewing of life, avail anything to please God or to obtain of Him any consolation or promise of salvation; bit we must go to God with an upright heart, and perfect faith, and believe in Jesus Christ, as the Scriptures say, and testify of Him; through which faith we obtain forgiveness of sins, are sanctified, justified, and made Children of God, yea partake of His mind, nature and image, as being born again of God from above, through incorruptible seed.

    Genesis 8:21; Mark 1:15; Ezekiel 12:2; Colossians 3:9-10; Ephesians 4:22;24; Hebrews 10:22-23; John 7:38"

    Date: 1632
  • Using Bible Study Tools on this Website for verse 43
    FINDING The Commentary Box

    When you first enter this website you will see 2 SEARCH Boxes. One is empty and the other is set up so you can dial in your scripture.

    If you want to read what scholars have explained about your scripture, you will need to touch your scripture to highlight it Yellow.

    Scroll slowly downward until you see the COMMENTARY BOX.

    Some commentary will explain in groups of scripture ie.1-5, 6-20, Etc

    I use this a lot! If search can't find your particular verse, a box to search in Google will pop up. Scan the verses there and see if you see the scripture worded a little differently.

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    If the word you remember is in either Old Testament; or New Testament, you can select one, and the search engine will list them in order.

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    There many BIBLE study helps on here that you can use to widen your searches and help you find something Faster. Don't be afraid to try everything out and see what it does. Be adventurous :)

    Keep paper and pencil next to you so you can look up verses in your Bible later; in Context.

    In your Bible: (Not the website)

    Use center of each page columns to (the little alphabet letters) to widen your study of each verse. They may pertain to history, or prophesies.

    If you get lost, just back arrow or back out and come back in again.
  • Eugene Jenkins for verse 43
    Iam a hebrew israeli and i keep wondering why you all who knows so much truth that you all do not teach the truth when you teach about the true name of the creator yah and the true name of yah son is yahshua dose it say in John 5:43 that he said he(yahshua)came in his father name but you or anyone else can show that name in the old scriptures.

    that the name that you all is pushing as being yahweh or yah name
  • Barbara Roberson for verse 43
    My son also is an Israelite or should say studying the Isralite Truth. He really enjoys the teaching. He listens to IUIC on line.
  • Carleton for verse 43
    Some may wonder if you are calling on God with the name of your interests or on His redeemer?
  • Marilyn T for verse 43
    When I read the Scriptures, I ask God to show me what to read. Oh how I was blessed to know that we must come

    to the Son ( Jesus ) to get to God ( our Father). I praise God that the man sitting at the pool didn't need help to get

    into the pool for healing. He had the healer, Jesus right there. We do not need anyone to go to God on our behalf,

    we can go directly for our self. Thankful that we are under Grace and not the Law. I love God, Jesus, and the Holy

    Ghost. I try to keep my heart fixed with a good relationship with God so when I need Him , he knows who I am.
  • Mike Acosta for verse 43
    Why is it wrong to pray to the Virgin Mary? I know that it takes away the reason for Jesus coming and dying for our sins, but is there any benefit to pray to Mary as some believe?
  • Chris for verse 43
    Mike, yes, it is very wrong to pray to the Virgin Mary - in fact she hasn't even been a virgin since the birth of Jesus, since she had many more children (Matthew 12:46-50, 13:55,56 & others).

    Jesus alone makes intercession for us (Romans 8:34) & His Spirit also intercedes on our behalf when we are unable to pray properly, maybe in ignorance (Romans 8:26). So the whole purpose of prayer, whether in praise & worship or in requesting from the Lord, is to direct our prayer to the Lord only without any other mediator (whether a priest, Mary or another Saint). To do that, means that we have no confidence that our prayers to God will be heard & so we need an intermediary between God & man. Our Intermediary can only & will only be Christ Jesus. To go to another means that we do despite to Christ's Holy & Blessd position with the Father.
  • Andrew Kingsly Raj in replying Mike Acosta for verse 43
    1 Timothy 2:5

    For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

    There is no benefit to pray to Mary. Because she is not God. It is abomination to pray to her.

    1st commandment: Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

    Exodus 23:24

    Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images.
  • Valarie for verse 43
    I can not seem to find the scripture regarding thankfulness. I remember I was in jail and there was a woman that was very angry . I was just an infant in CHRIST at that time. But I remember I was giving GOD thanks for all things. She was very angry and had the attitude how could I give thanks for being in jail. Of course I was thankful because in my heart I realized things could always be worse, but also I had read a scripture saying giving thanks for all things and I showed it to her and she was surprised. But now I can not find that scripture. Please help. Thank you.
  • LaVonne for verse 43
    Valarie, There are many verses concerning being thankful. King David is most thankful in the book of Psalms

    Psalms 106:1 Psalms 107:1 Ephesians 5:20 1Thessalonians 5:18. Also in the New Testament, Our Lord Jesus

    always gave thanks to God the Father. I believe our Father God wants us to always come before him with

    a thankful heart. " May the Lord bless you and keep you" Numbers 6:24
  • Naneki for verse 43
    what versus indicate that The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit are one ? I don't mean physically, but characteristically...
  • Chris for verse 43
    You could also look at:

    Isaiah 9:6; Matthew 28:19; John 1:1-14; 5:18; 10:30-33; 14:9-11; 15:26; 17:22; Philippians 2:5-8; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:6; 1 John 5:7.

    I've just given them in book/verse order to make it easier for you to look up.

    However, when you say "characteristically" & the above references are not what you're looking for, then as you read the Gospels, you will see the character & work of Jesus Christ & His Spirit are in line in every respect to that of God the Father (i.e. in Love, Truth, Justice, Holiness, fulfilling the Plan set out for the World).
  • Andrew Kingsly Raj in replying Naneki for verse 43
    8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

    9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

    11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

    Link

    At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

    Link
  • ERIC WILLIAMS for verse 43
    1.What do you call this virus that attack the world ?

    Your answer: ???

    My answer: Leviathan demonic spirit
  • Chris for verse 43
    My answer? A bacteria that causes respiratory sickness that was very likely developed in a laboratory in China, was mishandled & spread globally.
  • Jesse for verse 43
    Ann,

    Should a person have to read how to be saved if they're already saved? It seems as though you are making an assumption that Adam is not saved? I've read most of his posts and I see no reason to doubt that he is saved. I would like to comment on the faith and works portion of your post if you don't mind. You say that for faith and works, it can't be both? I think that for a person who belongs to Christ, it is both.

    Works show proof of faith. James 2:14 says, What doeth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? Can faith save him? Literally, can the faith save him? The question itself in Greek expects the answer no. Can the faith save him if he says he has faith but does not have works? The word works in the Greek text literally means activity.

    If we put faith and activity together, we understand that if God's Spirit is present in us, there will be activity (Works). Works do not produce faith. But faith produces works. Martin Luther had problems with James because he said that James contradicted Paul's teachings because Paul said that we're justified, not out of works but out of faith. But James said if you don't have works you don't have faith. So it sounds like they are contradicting each other.

    But Paul talked about the root of the tree that faith does not come from out of works. James on the other hand talked about the fruit of the tree. That is to say, if you have the faith of Jesus Christ, you will bear fruit (Works) from the Spirit of God.

    Jesus said that in Matthew Chapter 7, by their fruit you shall know them. We don't produce fruit. God's Spirit in us produces fruit. And that fruit is evidenced by good works. Paul talked about the root (Christ) where salvation comes from. James talks about the activity (Works) of God's Spirit in a person's life. So I would say that for a true believer, there has to be both.

    Yes, we are not saved by human works, but once we are saved, there will be activity (Works).
  • comment by Alex on 2 separate gospels 1 for the Jews and 1 for th Gentiles 1st cor. 12 v 13 for by 1 spirit are we all baptised into the body of Christ whether we be jew or gentile, bond or free. ETC. so much for that 2 sepatate gospels doctrine.
  • Mishael for verse 43
    Carlos: can't we agree to disagree?

    JESUS said watch and be ready; keep your lamps filled with oil of the Holy Spirit. Period.
  • Mishael on Genesis 8 9 for verse 43
    I read something last night just really endeared The Lord to me. It was after the flood and Noah and his family were leaving the Ark.

    I was reading & noted Genesis 8:20-22 and 9:8-17

    In verse 21-22: And the Lord Smelled a sweet savour; and the Lord said IN HIS HEART, I will not again curse the GROUND anymore for mans sake, for the imaginations of mans heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite anymore every thing living, as I have done.

    While the earth remaineth seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat; and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease. (Jeremiah 33:25)

    The token of the covenant of is the rainbow.

    There was no anger. Sorrow in his heart.

    What hurts us, hurts him.

    How many times have we wept; why is this happening to me? Why didn't You stop it?

    How so the earth groans for it's redemption. As should we all...
  • D W L for verse 43
    There was a fullblood Indian mother that had never been to church or heard the word of God. Her son was born again, repented, believed on Jesus, he told her about Jesus and how she could be saved, that she should repent and believe, she asked her son can he (JESUS) understand my Cherokee language? He said yes mom he understands and she was saved and believed on Jesus. --- in the early 1920's - 30

    Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
  • Mishael for verse 43
    He will see his Mother again. A joyful reunion.
  • Bob Hilt for verse 4
    Why is when the rapture / resurrection a hotly contested thing? It was not even debated until 200 years ago.

    Jesus tells us plainly in Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

    25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed (weeds) tares among the wheat, and went his way.

    26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

    27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

    28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

    29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

    30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. (first the tares WEEDS get gathered, the wheat last) could it be any more plain than this?

    Matthew 13:36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

    37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

    38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

    39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

    40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
  • Ann Hering for verse 4
    The tares are Israel who DID NOT believe that Jesus was The Christ (Messiah) of God.

    The wheat are Israel who DID believe that Jesus was The Christ (Messiah) of God.

    At the harvest of the world, at the end of the Tribulation, angels are the reapers, tares are gathered and burned, wheat are left.

    The Rapture is a Mystery revealed to Paul for the Body Of Christ, both Jews and Gentiles, who believe in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, by grace through faith.

    Two different programs!
  • D W L for verse 43
    Ann Hering - You should try tell the Christians in many other countries today that the Christians will be gone before tribulation (not wrath) they are burning them alive, killing them today in very terrible ways. I would name several countries but may not be allowed to post.

    Matthew 24:29 Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: (the word after has one meaning = not before)
  • Ann Hering for verse 43
    The Tribulation is not happening now. The Tribulation is the Time of Jacob's (Israel's) Trouble. That is a prophetic event. We are not in prophecy.

    The Apostle Paul was buffeted by Satan because he preached The Gospel Of The Grace of God, believing that Jesus Christ died for our sins, was buried, and rose again, all by grace through faith in that alone!

    Satan hates the preaching of the cross of Jesus Christ. Religion hates the preaching of the finished work of the cross for salvation. That is why Paul was beaten, stoned, and sorely mistreated because of The Gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4)

    Today no prophecy! The Body Of Christ will be taken out of here before God resumes His prophetic program with ISRAEL during The Tribulation!
  • Jesse for verse 43
    Ann Hering, Amen, very well said!!!
  • Jesse for verse 43
    Amen, very well said!!!
  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO for verse 43
    Ann Hering, The Bible is clear. See Matthew 24:29. There are differences of opinion on when Christ will return and if there will be an appearing before the coming. But the Scriptures are specific. See 2 Timothy 2. Perhaps you are right and we will be taken away before what Christ calls the Great Tribulation. That would be very nice, but it is unrealistic. Not only that, it is not Biblical.

    If you take everything that is said about the Rapture and the 2nd Coming and separate them, which the Bible does not do, you are left with the same thing. Everything that is said about the Rapture falls in line with what is said about the Coming. If we say Paul distinguishes between these two events, we would contradict what he says.

    1. The Bible never says the Rapture is before the Tribulation.

    2. The Bible says that Christ said the Rapture is Immediately After the Tribulation.

    3. The same events are attached to both (Trumpets, Clouds, Gathering, In the Air, Angels, Thief in the Night).

    Where does the Bible contradict the words of Christ in Matthew 24:29?

    Where does the Bible specifically say the Rapture is before the Tribulation?

    But what is the real significance of what Christ and Paul said? Why is it important for Christians to know the truth about when the Rapture will take place?

    I think I know the arguments, but if you list them, we can all discuss them one by one.


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