Louis Silinda Lekhuleni on John 12:28 - 9 years ago
John the man from fleshly and spiritual family of Jesus the mesia of mankind and the last apostle no man may call himself apostle all of us we are the sons and daughters of God through mercy and we are real in him because he know us more than ourselves,amen
I had not been to a church since getting out of an acute psychiatric unit in September 2012. On the 19th July 2014, I was worshipping where I am staying at the moment. I felt a strong move in the Holy Spirit and decided to go to Church. To say that God holds me in his hand cannot be understated. I connected immediately with one of the ministers for 30 minutes even though he was busy and waiting for someone else. The time I spent with God in his house was a profound and emotional experience. At the end of the service God clearly said to me, John 12 26. I waited and God again said John 12 26. I knew I was home and I remain fully blessed. Thank you Father.
Pastor Enoch N. Harmon Sr. Zion International Ministries Inc. Phoenix ARIZONA. on John 12:32 - 9 years ago
Truly Jhn. 12 32 talking and signify Gods ' praise. If I be lifted up, from the earth, I will draw all men unto my self. If we praise and worship God in the beauty of holiness, and in spirit and in truth, people will be encourage wishing to know how good is in signs, all colors will worship and serve him.
Jesus spoke to Nicodemus in John 3 said "just as Moses lifted up the bronze snake in the wilderness,so the Son of Man must be lifted up, so that everyone who believes in Him will have eternal life. Looking at the text in Numbers 21 4 8 we see that the israelites spoke against God and Moses ans God sent snakes amongst them and they were bitten, some died, Moses interceded for the people and the LORD instructed Moses to make a bronze image of a snake on a pole and everyone who was bitten was healed from the snake bite once they looked at it. So in a sense the bronze snake took the the sting of death from the snake bite. So John 12 32 and John4 12 is to be viewed in parallel to this scenario. Now it clear that in the original text of John 12 32 "men " is not there. So what did Jesus draw to Him when He was lifted up? Now the israelites were bitten by snakes and a bronze image of a snake was made and looking upon it made them recover, Jesus who knew no sin became sin, and on the cross He drew all sin and thus you and I have life once we acknowledge His Lordship over us. Snake bite bronze snake recover. Sin sting of sin death Jesus becoming sin on the cross eternal life for us . John3 14,
I think it is interesting to me it strikes as needing to hit rock bottom to turn away from all the world offers and to realize only eternal life and Union with God will bring true joy but also the seed image of needing to fall on the ground die and then be made useful for a harvest for many is hope giving
and i, if i be lifted up from the earth i will draw all men to myself. It signifies christ resurrection from the grave i.e whenn he's resurrected he'll produce more souls. Secondly it mean his ascention from this earth realm.
1st I want to say that I love God word
2nd if I meaning Christ be lifted up he meaning Christ will draw all men unto himself
3rd for God word is perfect to the converting of souls
4th It is the spirit that quickeneth, the flesh profiteth nothing the words that I speak unto you they are spirit and they are life John 6:63
In our canal bodies man cannot understand neither meet the expectations of his creator,therefore to understand what God has in store for us,we should shed the old self and let God have his way over our lives.
Joseph, before I came to believe in Jesus I was living my old life. My old life was one that revolved around this world and it�s worldly ideals and beliefs. A worldly life is one that is without true faith, belief, and fellowship with and worship of Jesus as the risen savior of the world. My old life revolved around that world and was empty and devoid of Jesus. Sure, I said I knew who Jesus was and claimed to be Christian, but I really wasn�t. I believe the life I loved before I knew him was the life Jesus was referring to in John 12:25. When you believe in Jesus you will hate that old life. �He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.�
Normand,
Go back to Rev 19:9. "And he saith unto me..." This "he" is actually one of the messengers of God. He is an angel. Angels are servants for us as well. This is why the angel said to John not to worship him in Rev 19:10. It is correct to worship Jesus, not men or angels.
Normand O. Leclerc Jr. on John 12:44 - 10 years ago
When I read John 12:44 I think of Revelation 19:10..and I'am not sure That we should be worshipping Jesus. Is it that I am having trouble understanding what the Godhead is?
Sometimes the Lord will show us a light especially if we are going through a grievous time and in order to heal he sends this bright and shining light to let one know they must believe in him and to follow him
It is the chapter where people were looking both the life giver and life receiver to be killed so that human glory will be lifted up. Praise the Lord that our Lord came to this world to give His life for others so that by death He will bring many to glory who believes.
I have been a Christian for a long time but this is the first time I've read this chapter all the way through. These words have so much power, I realize I've been missing out. I've never read the Bible from beginning to end, I think I need to get on that ASAP.
I encourage anyone to start with the New Testament and read through the whole Bible, one chapter a day. My whole family is doing this and we are keeping a journal of our favorite verses from each chapter and sharing them weekly. Since there are around 1500 chapters in the Bible, it will take us a little over four years. My favorite verse in this chapter is verse 46.
John 12:38 is refering to Isaiah 53:1
1 "Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?"
Notice when reading further into the chapter on 53:2-6.
2 "For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him."
3 "He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not."
4 "Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted."
5 "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."
6 "All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all."
Notice how Isaiah refers to himself as a different person than the Christ, even in the number of those who hid their faces. Isaiah refers to the Christ as "He" and himself as one of the "We".
What Jesus said and people refused to accept his person and his words would be judging them hereafter. What he said would be judging those who rejected him in the last day. It means everything Jesus said was righteous and alighted this world, but some people refused to accept him, that's why they would be judged. Jesus is the truth and what he speaks was made clean of any lie.
St Andrews in Ann Arbor MI has a John 12 21 quote downstairs and you can see it there something like "come and have breakfast with me". So Jesus shares your fare.
If we, as Christians would not be ashamed to live the word of God every day and worship and praise our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, He would be lifted up. For as the scripture also says, "He (Jesus) inhabit the praises of His people." When He inhabits, He comes in with the blessing of God, where others may see, Jews and Gentiles alike worshiping in the love and Spirit of God and drawing near to Him to glorify our Lord, He will draw others to come.
This year I have made my best effort to study the word. My faith is growing stronger and my eyes opened to how I and so many others gave meaningless service to being saved. I also realize why Satan has used atheists to get bible education out of schools. A bad or nonexistent knowledge of scripture leaves us open to the cunning lies of Satan. The state of the world today shows me this truth. I urge anyone reading this to fully research the true Sabbath. Sunday is not the true Sabbath. Jesus and the disciples all kept the true seventh day. Many scriptures attest to this. There is not one scripture where the Sabbath was changed by God or Jesus. And the bible is the God inspired word not to be changed by man. But in the 8th century that�s exactly what the Roman Catholic Church did. The proof is in their own writings and the history of the church. Satan has been here since the Garden of Eden, working his plan to deceive us since then. As Jesus said many Christians will be deceived and he will not know them even though they call him Lord, heal and prophecy in his name. Again I urge you check out the truth. God bless.
It is an unimaginable thing that Jesus had to weep.It is just so sad that pple don't realise how hard it was for the son of,we surely need salvation lest we be judged.
How does the word judge you? Does that mean that peoples concience will be convicted because they'll know it's true? Or something? please help me. May the love of GOD reach you all.
I was mistaken in my thinking. I understood the verse to mean the following:
If I be lifted up = praising God, lifting our voices in praise and worship to God Almighty.
In that = He (God) would draw all men unto him.
2nd if I meaning Christ be lifted up he meaning Christ will draw all men unto himself
3rd for God word is perfect to the converting of souls
4th It is the spirit that quickeneth, the flesh profiteth nothing the words that I speak unto you they are spirit and they are life John 6:63
Go back to Rev 19:9. "And he saith unto me..." This "he" is actually one of the messengers of God. He is an angel. Angels are servants for us as well. This is why the angel said to John not to worship him in Rev 19:10. It is correct to worship Jesus, not men or angels.
1 "Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?"
Notice when reading further into the chapter on 53:2-6.
2 "For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him."
3 "He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not."
4 "Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted."
5 "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."
6 "All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all."
Notice how Isaiah refers to himself as a different person than the Christ, even in the number of those who hid their faces. Isaiah refers to the Christ as "He" and himself as one of the "We".
If I be lifted up = praising God, lifting our voices in praise and worship to God Almighty.
In that = He (God) would draw all men unto him.