John Chapter 11 Discussion

  • VALMAR on John 11 - 12 months ago
    Hello, Eyobed. I saw where you inquired which verse in John 11 is the one disputed over. I believe it could be the shortest verse in scripture or verse 35, "Jesus wept.". There has been some deliberation over time as to why He wept. Hope that answers your question. Have a good day and keep in the Word!
  • Richard H Priday on John 11 - 1 year ago
    John 11 and predestination

    This chapter emphasizes more in the area of the sovereignty of God and the course Christ was ordained or predestined to follow on His way to the crucifixion in Jerusalem shortly to come to pass after the event with Lazarus. Therefore, there is the theme here of the final leg of the journey when Christ would finally voluntarily sacrifice His life and how He must be preserved until that hour; as well as the confusion as to the true state of Lazarus and when He would come back to life.

    The time of His journey had to at least have two days further after the two where He remained where He was residing; once He finally got to where Lazarus was in verse 17.

    The contrast between verses 4 and 11 seem to be an issue; but the issue seems to indicate that the final; permanent death or bodily decay wasn't going to happen yet. There could also be an indication here that only the body; not the soul sleeps in this situation. In any event; after confusion as to the timing of the restoration of Lazarus by Mary and others lack of faith while Christ remained on earth; once the miracle did occur it cemented the final plans to kill Him. Caiaphas made the prophetic statement about one man dying for the people in verse 50; not realizing the application for the Jews AND Gentiles through the death and Resurrection to come.

    Jesus knew the exact time when He was to head to Jerusalem to die; as He followed the Father's lead in all things. See John 10:18 about Christ's understanding of His power and control on laying down His life AND raising it up again. When we understand the works He has set forth in Ephesians 2:10 prepared for us we also have God lead us through the Spirit.

    We are to be conformed to the image of His Son ( Romans 8:29) after a process going from salvation to sanctification to glorification in the next verse (8:30).
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on John 11 - 2 years ago
    Brother Manuel, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is THE SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN, specially those that BELIEVE.

    1 Timothy 4:11 These things (God is saviour of all men) COMMAND AND TEACH.

    I know you believe God is going to FAIL. You believe, it's up to man. That belief (it's up to you) should bring your own salvation into question.
  • Manuel Marques Teixeira on John 11 - 2 years ago
    Jesus dilivered men from the power of eternal death, the second death, after the jugment day! It's writen,that the father gave all jugment to the Son, because Jesus is the son of men! The salvation like Jacob's deleverance from Esa, is based on the relashionship btween the beleever and the Savior, the Begotten Son of God, Jesus Christ, the second Adam!

    It's written: Your Way, oh God is at thr sanctuary, Jesus is the sacrifice, because he took upon him the penalty of the transgression of the law of the ten commandements, becaming our substitute, nevertheless, the inocente lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world!

    According to Tessaloniens, Paul the apostle of the gentils, enlightened the church of the living God Allmighty, about the condition of men facing death, sayng that after the first death all men will ressurect, ones for life and others for the second and eternal death, with satal and his angels! To Gob be the Glory, because He is mercifull, forgiving, longsuffering patient, and waits for me and you. Today we still can, with a simple act of faith, accept the power of Jesus's blood, while we are on the way and alive, because God is God of the living! After death, awaits us the jugment. Today, if you listen the voice of God (Jesus through the Holy Spirit) don't harden your hearts!

    There is no salvation after death! This is devil's lie, like Eve, whosoever beleeves it, wil die the second death, the sin beeing that the Light came into the world, but men prefered darkness! Jesus said whosoever beleeves in Me wil not die ( the eternal and defenitive one).
  • Gary Hardin on John 11 - 2 years ago
    Jesus is our hight priest and is touched by our infirmities and was affect by the state of affection to all who was affect by Lazarus death. All things are possible with God
  • Chris - In Reply on John 11 - 2 years ago
    Hello Eyobed. I'm unsure which verse you're thinking of, or were told about, but generally we know that John 11:41 has been altered in almost every translation that I could find.

    KJV: "Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me."

    Others: "So they took away the stone. Then Jesus looked up and said, "Father, I thank you that you have heard me."

    The other translations have omitted the phrase, "from the place where the dead was laid" as it's not found in the older manuscripts. However, the KJV is translated from the 'Received Text', which is the most reliable throughout the manuscript. In any case, if this was the verse you were thinking of, then the omission, though noteworthy, does not alter the sense of the passage, as 'the stone' was clearly the one sealing Lazarus' cave/sepulchre & no one else's.
  • Eyobed Bedlu on John 11 - 2 years ago
    which one is the disputed verse from jhon chapter 11
  • Chris - In Reply on John 11 - 2 years ago
    That Scripture only speaks of Lazarus arising from death & no one else. And the same would be for Jairus' daughter ( Luke 8:41-56). These are accounts of individual resurrections, as well as others as seen in the Book of Acts but none of these ascended into Heaven as Jesus did after He was dead for three days in the sepulchre.
  • Jenny on John 11 - 2 years ago
    When Jesus called Lazarus to come forth; did other corpses rise from the dead; at the same time or was it only Lazarus.
  • Earl Bowman on John 11 - 2 years ago
    I AM the resurrection

    John 11:25 Jesus said unto her I AM THE RESURRECTION, and THE LIFE......

    Isaiah 26:19

    1 Timothy 6:16

    Job 14:7-9 For there is hope of a tree, if it be cut down, that it will sprout again, and the tender branch thereof will not cease.

    (vs 8) Thought the root thereof wax old in the earth, and the stock thereof die in the ground;

    (vs 9) Yet through the scent of water it will bud, and bring forth boughs like a plant.
  • EDWIN NNODIM on John 11 - 2 years ago
    Give more insight on Lazarus recurvation by Jesus and lesson to derive in Gospel of St, John

    Chapter 11

    2. Show in Bible where Jesus miracles shows that he is God.

    3.I will use the topic to preach this Sunday.
  • QWIlliams on John 11:40 - 2 years ago
    Clearly to me I feel 11:40 "Said I Not" Jesus had sent. Word earlier to Martha and Mary and so He had to complete His assignment elsewhere before returning, but Martha was very upset because he hadn't come earlier! He then Asked her to Roll the Stone away , but she said, " He stinketh by now, hes been dead four days". Jesus already knew that and yet she was still questioning Jesus request! This is the "CHURCH" today still questioning the Miracles Signs and Wonders that should be manifested today...Jesus Sent the Comforter that gives us the power to work through us...qwilliams
  • Wendy McCullough on John 11:26 - 3 years ago
    I like reading the Bible on my BlackBerry cell phone.
  • Bob on John 11 - 3 years ago
    Verse 22

    Here is the correct understanding of Jesus position . As mediator on behalf of all of us .

    We would all be toast with out Jesus Acting on our behalf . No one can approach God . Without Jesus , he Is intercessor as well as Saviour .

    Much more could be said . Martha got it right .
  • Alex - In Reply on John 11:35 - 3 years ago
    Alex comments about the Trinity the Godhead. God told Moses his name was ABRAHAM ISSAC AND JACOB.that is my name forever and my memorial to all generations. Which is exactly like the Davidic kingdom Jesse David and Solomon,father son and granson, 3 distinct beings but 1 kingdom. And 1 of the prophets said that house of david is, like the house of God,Without this father son and granson scenario there cd have neva been a nation of Israel. LIKEWISE without the heavenly trinity, Father son and granson there cannot be an Israel of God. Thats y Jesus refers to the H.G as the PROMISE which is the multiplcation of Christ vii his seed etc that is gona be as the stars of heaven th Israel of God.Ya gotta realize that God Almighty offered up his only son Jesus just like Abraham offered up his only son Issac, Thats what Abraham means exaulted FATHER.thus the Abrahamic trinity is a profile of the heavenly trinity. When they saw the CROWN of THORNS on Jesus head they rememebered the ram caught in the thicket by his horns. The LORD shall provide himself a lamb which was JESUS. The ABRAHAMIC trinity is an exact PROFILE of the heavenly trinity, That y GOD told moses his name was abraham issac and jacob, and my memorial to all generations, just as the ABRAHAMIC TRINITY WAS multiplied as the sands of the seas so the heavenly trinity is gona be multiplied as the stars of heaven,that was the great promise and God swore by his very self,Thats y Jesus refers to the H.G as the promise he is the multiplcation of CHRIST in humanity via the seed of CHRIST th living word th new covenant.Behold ME and the CHILDREN the Lord has given ME th Israel of God via the seed of the sower the WORDS of that book in the right hand of the Father. that is gona initiate a birth of CHRIST IN US SINNERS. THE Woman in birth pains for the Israel of God,the H.G.thus the babes and sucklings are spirits. ok gbu
  • Min Sharon Milsap on John 11:4 - 3 years ago
    To god be all the glory!!!
  • Bendito Palavra - In Reply on John 11 - 3 years ago
    The present wellbeing in a person's life is no indication of their future disposition:

    Ecclesiastes 8:11-13

    Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.

    Though a sinner do evil an hundred times, and his days be prolonged, yet surely I know that it shall be well with them that fear God, which fear before him:

    But it shall not be well with the wicked, neither shall he prolong his days, which are as a shadow; because he feareth not before God.

    See also Psalm 73.
  • Mishael on 1 Corinthians 7 - In Reply on John 11 - 3 years ago
    In 1962 in America, one old lady athiest won her case to ban the Bible and the 10 Commandments out of public schools.

    Why? people were fascinated with the space program and the upcoming moon walk.

    You grew up without any reaffirmation of any public kind, Or from unchurched parents or schools. It was put upon the Church to teach 10 commandments but they were afraid of having tax exempt status taken away.

    This is Gods way to have a successful life and marriage. 1 Corinthians chapter 7

    1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

    2 Nevertheless, to avoid FORNICATION let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

    3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence (marital relations) and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

    4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. (Don't use sex to get your own way)

    5 Defraud ye not (Withhold sex) one from the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

    6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.

    7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God (celibacy) one after this manner, and another after that. (Marriage)

    8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. (Abstaining)

    9 But if they cannot contain (not having sexual relations) let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

    In society, fornication has been made acceptable. Problem is the two become one, and after experimentation and breakups, we have all these old soul ties to other lovers, that weaken a marriage at the start. It takes prayer by the new couple to sever those ties to the past. Mutual respect keeps marriage strong.
  • Amy on John 11 - 3 years ago
    The Bible says not to live together before marriage. Why? My friends are living with their bfs and plan on getting married and doing fine. Why shouldn't I if they seem to be just fine?
  • Obbie Beal on John 11 - 3 years ago
    25 Jesus said unto her, I am the RESURRECTION and the LIFE, he that believeth in me, though he were dead yet shall he live 26 and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

    Note: The same question JESUS asked back then remains for you and I in 2020, never-the-less, the question for us in 2020 is: Believest thou that JESUS is the RESURRECTION and LIFE and anyone that believeth in JESUS though that person were dead SHALL LIVE and anyone that beliveveth in JESUS SHALL never die. Through John 3:16-21 I believeth all stated in verse 25-26, and looking forward to being at the Marriage Supper of the LAMB.
  • Angela - In Reply on John 11 - 3 years ago

    Thank you for your great reply! I am so much enjoying this website, & commenting with others about the Lord! I think you may be right about the thief on the cross because since my last comment I remembered something! When Jesus was crucified and was raised, He appeared & was talking with His disciples. He told one of them not to touch Him because He hadn't ascended into heaven yet! So, how then was He in Paradise with the thief when they gave up the ghost?
  • Chris - In Reply on John 11 - 3 years ago
    Angela, it is my belief & understanding from Scripture that when we die, our spirits go immediately into eternity. Those who have been saved, into Heaven, & those who have refused Christ, into Hades.

    You cited the thief on the cross: & true, on that very day, as Jesus gave up His Spirit & the thief also died, the thief went into Paradise (we don't believe it was Heaven, but a place of comfort). You also quoted Paul's great expectation from 2 Cor 5:8. It seems clear in the way Paul had expressed it, that once his death took place, his presence with the Lord would be immediate. I also think of: Eccl 12:7, Acts 7:55-59; Phil 1:23; 1 Thes 5:10. There are many who proclaim that there will be a 'soul sleep', i.e. at death, our souls & spirits will remain with our bodies until resurrection day. My understanding from Scripture, is that there is no interim time, rather an immediate transfer of the spirit into eternity. One though has to decide here & now where that eternity is going to be, through his response to the Cross.
  • Angela - In Reply on John 11 - 3 years ago

    It doesn't have to be out of your hands when you die!

    That's what it is to be a Christian! Choosing God while are soul's are in this human, worldly body. Then when we die, our soul will go to Him. He said's that "Absent from the body, is present with the Lord! Did you know that if you choose to live for Him here, that Judgement Day is nothing to fear! Did you know that if you are saved, He will be giving you your rewards that day!I have been through so, so much! For years I wasn't living right, and it always led to bad, serious, & tragic things happening to me. I felt alone, rejected, and not loved right! Alot of anger and hurt will lead to anxiety & depression! It can also lead to thoughts of suicide! Eric, God is real I promise you! I can tell you stories of when He has shown Himself in my life!
  • Eric Aguero - In Reply on John 11 - 3 years ago
    I make my choice while I am alive. It's out of my hands when I die.
  • Angela S Windom - In Reply on John 11 - 3 years ago
    I don't know what you mean! When we die and face Jesus, the decision is not ours if we are going to heaven or hell! That is up to Jesus and God! Our name is either in the Lambs Book Of Life, or it isn't! It is however, our decision while we are alive on this earth! It is the greatest & most important decision we ever make! Choose JESUS!!
  • Cindy on John 11 - 4 years ago
    Whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall NEVER die....Such a powerful statement. Thank you, Jesus, for your Free Gift of Eternal Life. By Grace through Faith, not of yourselves lest any man should boast. Jesus plus nothing else. Perfected Forever.
  • Russell Stone on John 11 - 4 years ago
    The first 1st letter In the Bible is I. Also the first Roman numeral is I. I can be spelled ,Eye . The Eye of GOD is always watching, always hearing always seeing always loving always caring. Ecclesiastes 11:7 has 2 parts . Part A " Then shall dust return to the earth as it was ". Part B "And the spirit return into GOD who gave it." All will return to GOD.
  • Teri on John 11 - 4 years ago
    We need to heed ...while it's still day! we will by edifying the body and by witnessing to the lost. this chapter shows that there is a resurrection and also a separation from God... John 9:4 there is a time when no man can work.
  • Getto John on John 11 - 4 years ago
    It may have happened, but the Bible is a metaphor of how we're to spend time on earth. There's glory with God, here and in heaven. On earth there is trouble and floundering, doubt and disgrace. And Rome gave up on a reunion with Jesus. So why wait for his return any longer. God is who I believe, not man! His word brings life to the dead, after a time of trial of faith. On earth, troubles!!
  • Obbie Beal on John 11 - 4 years ago
    (25-26 are great example of the power of GOD as it relates to life, death, resurrection from the dead;) 25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live; 26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. believest thou this?

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