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  • Keith Vaughan on John 1
    John 1 is about the presence of God and the Holy Spirit, and the gathering of the Disciples to help spread the word of God. This chapter also informs us on how we can worship together and feel the presence of God in all of us. John the Baptist, help to baptist people, so the they accept God in their hearts.

    Keith Vaughan
  • Grace on John 1
    Thank you for taking your time to read this marvelous scripture. This website helps me a bunch with my studies!! Much thanks and love!
  • Hardley Boswell on John 1
    As i read its amazing how we need both law and grace,man creats and enforce the law and King of Kings gives us a will to chose.The truth is we need both in order to live in this world
  • JENY HODGES on John 1:1
    I am thankful for I can use freely to post the Bible verse on the twitter.
  • Liz Brown on John 1
    Do pets go to Heaven? I cannot find any references in scriptures.
  • Mishael - in Reply on John 1
    There's not really a doctrine about pets in heaven. However, if you ponder long on Noah's Ark; we know God cared about humans having animals. They loaded up the Ark with animals and when the Ark landed everyone left the Ark and went forth and multiplied.

    So the animals were preserved.

    This day, Jesus is the new Ark of God. We must be born again to be taken up in the clouds to meet Jesus. We have to be in Jesus.

    Maybe I'm an old fool, but I think there will be critters in heaven. I kinda asked The Lord why he made cats and dogs, once? I said they have not much use except to serve and be held for hours. Lol.

    Some people worship animals so that's not a good thing. The Bible does say the Lion will lay down with the lamb?

    I think we're going to have to wait and see what heaven is like. I'm excited about a transformed body that doesn't hurt or get tired.
  • Alex on John 1
    Alex comments on why Jesus ALWAYS refered to himself as the SON OF MAN,Its simply b/c Christ is gona be born in humanity,Thats y Jesus, the sower of the GOOD seed wants to sow his Precious seed in the hearts of everyman MANKIND. The mystery of the Kingdom of God is Christ in you but the only way we can get CHRIST n us is by a seed th WORD hearing and understanding brings on conception n gestation My lil children of whom i travail in birth Again till Christ is formed in you, thus he is gonna be our Son our spritual Son,our fruit unto God as Paul said,The Child is the Promise th H.G. THATS Y jesus said that which is born of the spirit is spirit thats our new innerman the H.G. The CHILD of PROMISE another CHRIST THAT IS FORMED IN US VIA HIS SEED THE WORD. That was the great Promise that God made to Christ I will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven thus CHILDREN OF PROMISE WHICH ARE SPIRITS TH H.G.plural, many as the stars of heaven IN MULTITUDE Thats y he always refered to himself as the SON OF MAN, mankind is gonna birth a baby Christ which is the H.G. THE child of Promise, Mankinds fruit unto God thats y the sower of the good seed wants to sow his seed in your hearts that it might initiate a birth of CHRIST IN YOU THUS HE IS TRULY THE SON OF MAN. She brought forth a manchild that is gonna rule ALLNATIONS which is the Child of Promise th H.G th ISRAEL of God.They say that its recorded 88 times in the NEW TESTAMENT he refers to himself as THE SON OF MAN,he was trying to tell us something but it was hid from the wise and prudent but revealed unto babes ( the WOMAN WITH CHILD IN Revelation 12 ) thats the great mystery humanity is gonna have a BABY CHRIST which is the H.G. Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in . Thats y the new birth is so important,being bornagain of an incorruptible SEED even by the WORD of God that liveth and abideth for ever impling the living WORD his VOICE etc, UNTO US A CHILD IS BORN ISAIAH SAID GBU
  • Naomi Burford on John 1
    I want to know if God do allow people getting tattoos ? I always want to get small tattoo cross and John 3:16.

    I just confused about people said Yes God do allows and some people said no.

    I want to follow God's words.
  • O - in Reply on John 1
    Do what ever you feel is right. It is Christ's love for you that will get you into Heaven not getting a tattooo. He sees you as the beautiful person that HE created. Not anyone else, and if you want a tat to show the world around that you are his follower loyal and faithful. Then do it for him. Don't let people even Fellow believers spout their feelings on it. Christ sends us all on our own journey.But I will tell you this I smoke and Icant quit. I prayed and prayed and agonized over it, feeling as though it shouldn't be such a struggle. Old Testament scripture making me feel awful, a horrible sinner. And I am a horrible sinner, we all are, he came for us not the righteous. But back to smoking, other fellow Christians have a lot to say about smoking to, but it actually helped me find people who were terrified for their souls but were not willing to seek forgiveness because they couldn't quit. They have been made to feel so horrible about it, that they feel as though their fate was sealed. Some people preach a smoker won't get into Heaven and sorry to say they are full of it. Had I not smoked they never would have talked to me about it. The Lord Of Heaven, Creater of they Universe, O Almighty God himself he loves you. And if you want the whole World to know you love him back who is it to tell you otherwise. The cross is the biggest symbol of love and forgiveness, I think we should plaster it everywhere so if ya wanna put it on your arm well the devil will know this place is
  • Tattoos - in Reply on John 1
    Some people disagree to this scripture:

    Leviticus 19:28

    Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.

    It's an Old Testament scripture. Jesus came to be crucified and die for our sins so we could be saved; and He ratified the New Covenant with his own blood.

    Tattoos, I think are part of this generations desire to belong to a group. We did it in the 60's, but the paint washed off. I think people are trying to find an identity with something or someone.

    Habakkuk 2:2-3. Is talking about a vision. Long ago the Lord told me that this verse was about a people with no identity. The Bible contains our new identities as Christians. We all belong to Jesus, so he's our new identity. The "evangelist" in us wants to show others what group we belong in. Changed lives is a greater witness of Jesus's life in us. Doing the do's and not doing the don'ts.

    I've never had a tattoo. But I carry a Bible and know how to use it. I'm not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ. I don't need tee shirts or tats to announce that a Christian is here. I use a smile. It works 99% of the time. You have no idea the rush of pure joy leading someone closer to the Lord.

    DONT get anymore tats. You can give that money to school lunches for children who are hungry. God bless you for your love. :)

  • Nora k Finley on John 1
    names of those God used to fulfill His purpose when the people were not saved or believed in Him...
  • Kevin D JacobsBey on John 1
    The name of the conforter
  • Mishael - in Reply on John 1
    Holy Spirit
  • Kevin D JacobsBey on John 1
    I am looking for a old version of King James John 14 before the words were altered
  • Patricia on John 1
    Where does it say in the Bible in the end of time that there will be one race
  • Sharon Small on John 1
    was water already in the six jugs at the wedding feast before the disciples fill them
  • Bendito Palavra - in Reply on John 1
    We read the account in John chapter 2. While it is possible the containers already held some water, we are told that Jesus commanded them to be filled, which the servants then filled to the brim.
  • Hugo Zyl on John 1
    Dear brothers and sisters in Christ

    I want to make a comment about the greatest problem in Christianity; namely, the falsehood of the Trinity.

    There is no support of such a thing as a Trinity in the Bible. In contrast, tons of evidence exist in the religions of Egypt, Babylonia and Hinduism. The accepting of this belief among Christians may correctly be called the saddest event in the history of humanity.

    God in His unimaginable mercy took on a body of flesh, placed our sins upon that body, and broke it. He raised it from the dead, and let it go up to heaven. The last words spoken by it were, "Go into all the world, preaching the Gospel. Baptise the believers in the Name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost." The disciples did just that. What Name? Jesus Christ.

    Jesus Christ is the name of God the father, and it is the name of the Son of God, and it is also the name of the Holy Ghost. God is a spirit. He took a name for us. It is Jesus Christ. The "Jesus" part of the name refers to the body which God used. The "Christ" part of the name refers to the manifested deity that was inside Jesus' body.

    How terrible it is to then turn this incredible Gift of God into some freakshow three-in-one heathen concept of a Trinity. May God have mercy upon us all!

    May we all grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ! Amen!
  • Rob - in Reply on John 1
    The spiritual Jesus contrived in vague scriptures is not the Jesus that the Bible so clearly reveals as the Son of God .

    I liken their spiritual Jesus more to a Frankenstein Jesus made up of parts of scriptures.

    But he will not deliver them in the end .

    Jesus Christ is come in the flesh born of God in Bethlehem, now at the right hand of God , coming back in Glory ! Amen !
  • Th Godhead - in Reply on John 1
    King James Bible DOES NOT have the words ,triune or trinity In it. Google LET US
  • Chris - in Reply on John 1
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    Hebrews 1:5-8: "For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten (Gk. prototokon, NOT 'protokitses'=first created) into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God WORSHIP him. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O GOD, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

    May you come to understand this great Truth that alone could redeem us back to God & set us free from that awful penalty which we deserved. Blessings.
  • Hugo Zyl - in Reply on John 1
    God bless you brother Chris

    Thank you for taking the effort to reply to my comment. Everything else aside, I appreciate your time. (You mentioned a previous conversation; perhaps you are confusing me with someone else, unless you mean that one comment about whether there are still prophets.)

    Let us just be careful: Ecclesiastes 6:11 The more words, the less meaning. You wrote a lot but I do not see much which is relevant to the topic at hand. I never denied Jesus Christ His deity. In contrast, I think Trinitarians deny His deity. I clearly said that Jesus Christ is the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Trinitarians say He is not the Father or the Holy Ghost. Actually I should level the denying deity accusation at YOU!

    You say that the man Jesus could not be a sacrifice for sins. You say it has to be God that is the sacrifice. I do not understand your reasoning. The reason why the animal sacrifice had to be done yearly is because the sinner is not cleaned of his sin. He is still a sinner. He will walk away and sin again. The animal was a yearly covering for the sin. So the important thing is not the sacrifice. The important thing it that the sinner should not be a sinner any more. That is what the Holy Ghost does for us. We are washed once in the blood of Jesus, and then we can be filled with the Holy Spirit. I do not see why you say it is of no use that God create a human being to be the sacrifice. Sinlessness is the key.

    Peace & Love to you. May God allow us all to know Him intimately.
  • Chris - in Reply on John 1
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    If Jesus was just a created Being (i.e. a separate creation for the purposes of ministry to the Jews & for Sacrifice), then the point I made, is what difference is there between Him & the pure, spotless sacrificial animal? Both are pure, both are created, both were prescribed of God & yes, both would only offer a temporal covering for sin, leaving the sinner today, as the Jew of yesteryear, bereft of a worthy & eternal salvation. That is why the Scriptures reveal an unbreakable link of Jesus, God's Word, coming from God in Heaven & being made the only Sacrificial Lamb that would meet God's demands fully. A created Jesus would be just another human creation (would God even do that?), however perfect He would be, but would not meet the criteria that God required for our redemption, justification & adoption. Just as the animal sacrifice could not satisfy God's Anger but only put in 'a stay of execution' to those under the law/curse, so any other created being could never do so. God's Sacrifice - His Love - was fully accomplished by Him offering up of Himself through His only Begotten Son, making our redemption perfect & final - that was God's Plan from all eternity.

    And I would take you up on your words: "The important thing is that the sinner should not be a sinner any more Sinlessness is the key". There should be time for that discussion - not now. Blessings.
  • Chris - in Reply on John 1
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    Yes, dear Hugo, I was referring to our conversation on 'prophets'. Re: Ecclesiastes 6:11, I think you have the wrong reference; possibly Proverbs 10:19, though this too doesn't apply.

    I realize that you're not denying the deity of Christ in one sense, but I would advise you that 'Trinitarians' likewise don't deny it either. A Trinitarian understanding of the Scriptures as you know, is that there is One God & that God has expressed Himself (& revealed to us) His Being. God shows us Himself also by His Word & His Spirit - you know the Scriptures that support this. Then at the appointed time (Romans 5:6), God sent His Word (John 1:14) to be clothed with flesh so that a full & permanent sacrifice could be made for sin unlike animal sacrifices.

    After Christ's death, resurrection & ascension, He went to sit at the Father's right Hand (Luke 22:69; Romans 8:34) where He "ever lives to make intercession for us" (Hebrews 7:25; Romans 8:34). So we see the Father in Heaven, His Son (Word made flesh) at the Father's right Hand & His Spirit who indwells the believer (John 14:17; Ephesians 1:13,14) & convicts men (John 16:8). There is no such teaching from the Bible that Jesus only exists in Heaven & that the Father & Holy Spirit are now existing in Jesus. I know this is the teaching of the "Jesus Only" movement. The Father, the Son & the Spirit are still there & all three remain part of the Eternal Godhead (& yes, by all means, level your accusation at me), for the Bible is clear. If you have Scriptures to show that this is not the case, then I welcome your further input & my study.
  • Hugo Zyl - in Reply on John 1
    God bless you brother Chris

    Thank you again for your reply. Excuse me, I did not explain myself well when I quoted Ecclesiastes 6:11. The NIV Bible reads "The more the words, the less the meaning, and how does that profit anyone?". My point was just that we should keep our words few to enhance the meaning and be clear.

    Your second paragraph, which begins with "I realize...", I agree with completely. But why do we have to cut God up into different pieces and say They are different Persons in the Godhead. Why can we not see it as one Person just having different jobs. For example, I am a father, a son, a husband, etc., but still I am just one person. Is it not possible that God is expressing Himself in the same way? And we misunderstand it as being different Persons in the Godhead?

    In your 3rd paragraph you wrote "So we see the Father in Heaven, His Son (Word made flesh) at the Father's right Hand & His Spirit who indwells the believer & convicts men". This appears to show different Persons, but look at what the apostle John saw in Revelation 4:2 - And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. / ONE sat on the throne and no other deity next to It or at Its right Hand. And concerning the Spirit indwelling the believer: Was it not God's purpose from the beginning to have intimate fellowship with His children; God in His fulness, not a third of the fulness.

    I am not so familiar with Jesus Only ideas so I cannot comment on that.

    And last; you asked: "If Jesus was just a created Being, what difference is there between Him & the pure, spotless sacrificial animal?" Answer: Jesus is a spiritual sacrifice which can touch our spirits, making us repent, filling us with God's Spirit, making us sinless and not needing any more sacrifice for sins. (1 John 3:9 - Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.) Hallelujah!

    Peace & Love in Christ
  • Chris - in Reply on John 1
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    Revelation 4:2: yes, that does show John viewing One sitting on the Throne, but when you read further in Revelation 5:6-9, we also see Jesus (God's Word sent to be made human, but now ascended to sit at God's right Hand). And we know that Jesus & God are there in Heaven by this verse & also Romans 8:34. So God's Word was made flesh & called "Jesus" but raised as 'God Who is also Man' in that Body fitted for Heaven, even as we shall be in that day (1 John 3:2). And yes, it was God's Plan from the beginning to have His children enjoy intimate fellowship with Him. And God is His Fullness (i.e. the Father, His Son & His Spirit Who are God in Unity) do enjoy such fellowship with His children. Each cannot feel differently about us (i.e. God cannot have fellowship with us, but the Son says "But I don't like that person, let's have a chat about this Father"). God is One & that Oneness is seen in His expressions of His Son & His Spirit & in their Unity & complete agreement.

    Jesus as a 'created Being': Jesus' Sacrifice as a Man does indeed have spiritual consequences but cannot be seen as a spiritual Sacrifice. He was fully human & fully God, yet laying aside some of those Divine qualities for the purposes of the Incarnation & Sacrifice (Philippians 2:5-11). To enable us to be convicted, to draw us to repentance, to give light & understanding, to renew us & fill us, to sanctify us & to raise us up to the heavenlies, is the work of God's Spirit. And Who is this Spirit? The self same Spirit that is part of the Father & the Son.

    1 John 3:9: that's a separate subject that can be discussed if you desire, as its meaning needs analysis. Though the concept of sinless perfection is concerning. Blessings.
  • Chris - in Reply on John 1
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    Hi Hugo, I understand the Ecclesiastes reference when I looked at the Hebrew word for "things", as applying to words, speech. The KJV doesn't write it that way. Yet, unlike you, I find it the opposite: when someone writes in more detail, I find that I can better understand the point he is making & so be able to discuss it. With too few words, often the understanding is incomplete.

    It is true that God can be understood & experienced in many ways, such as a Father, a Friend, a Creator, a Comforter, etc., just as your example of a human family. But to do that, only gives us an experiential meaning (i.e. of one's experience of God). But to know the God of Heaven, then requires us to know Who He is in His Being. If God chose not to do so, then all we would have is a God that is known according to our experience of Him. But He has chosen to show us what makes up His Essence. And that Essence of God is seen also in His Word & His Spirit (Scriptures given previously). In other words, if His Word and/or His Spirit are absent, He wouldn't be God - His 'composition' is a God of Three Entities, as revealed to us.

    For example, your friend would see you as Hugo, a man & his friend, but God sees the real you as a body, soul & spirit; if any of these 'parts' of you are absent, you wouldn't be Hugo that we know. The only reason we have a physical body, is to house the spirit & soul & that we can enjoy the life on Earth that God has blessed us with. That's why when Jesus dealt with people around Him, He cared not how they dressed or their appearance, but looked deep into them, into their spirit to know of what sort they were & what drove them. Likewise, God judges us not by our appearance, but the condition of our heart (i.e. if we have been changed by His Spirit or still subject to the sinful spirit of man).
  • Hugo Zyl - in Reply on John 1
    Once more blessing in Christ on you dear brother Chris

    I feel I have to alter the topic of the discussion for this reply as something came out in your post which startled me greatly.

    I hope I misunderstood you, because I had the impression you wrote that Jesus Christ talks to God the Father like one person speaks to another person!!!

    Do you really believe that? Do all Trinitarians believe it? I have never been long at a Trinitarian church so I honestly did not know this is believed. God have mercy on us. This is absolute polytheism! I thought you simply believed that God had three heads or three independant forms, but to say that one part of God talks to another part of God, and has a chat, this is unimaginable. This is 100% equal to Hinduism where (with all due respect to the Word stating we are not to even to say the names of idols) Shiva goes to visit Vishnu and they spend an hour having a debate about who is greater, or Buddhism where the Buddha may say a certain human needs to go to hell, but then Amitabha comes along and says that because the human visited his temple once he can be born on earth as a bird instead of going to hell, or Greek religion where Hera became jealous of Heracles because Zeus loved him more, etc.

    My dear brother in Christ. Please consider what you are really believing. The very thing that caused God to make Abraham be taken out of his land to go to Canaan was that Abraham rejected the polytheism of his country. Out of a whole country he alone knew the oneness of God, and that God is not a man or men but a Spirit. My ernest desire for you is to be the one person in your community who can leave the traditions of organized religion, and know the oneness of God, and that God is not a man or men but a Spirit.

    Peace and love in our one and only Lord, with none other equal who He can chat with as one among equals, Jesus Christ
  • Chris - in Reply on John 1
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    This same Jesus, fully man & fully Divine, was crucified, buried, resurrected & ascended to the Father's right Hand. Where once, the Word proceeded out from God, the Word now in flesh, raised in a heavenly Body, sits as the Divine Man at God's right Hand. So Jesus, as we too will be in Heaven, can communicate with each other - I see no problem with this (Hebrews 7:25).

    And in regards to polytheism, by definition, is the multiplicity of gods. The Triune God is definitely not a polytheistic god - that would be sacrilege indeed. We don't have three gods in Heaven - there is only One God expressed in three Persons; I think you are understanding the Trinity teaching from a polytheistic perspective - God cannot be understood like that. If you see Jesus or the Holy Spirit as a lesser Entity, then you have not understood the Doctrine of God - all three in the Godhead are equally God & are the One God: co-equal & co-eternal.

    I gave you the example of your personal trinitarian existence, Hugo: you're composed of spirit, soul & body. Do you accept that? Without even one of those 'parts' you wouldn't be Hugo - maybe you could be some type of sub-human or just floating about in spirit form. Or with the Sun in the Universe: a body of hot gases, giving heat & giving light (3 parts of the one). It wouldn't be a sun as we know, if any entity of it was absent. These are of course poor examples to try & explain the Triune God, but I'm trying to show you that a Trinity does not necessarily mean three that are separate from each other, but can also mean three in one, as with God. But in Heaven now, Jesus is seen as separate because of his taking on of flesh & rising in a heavenly Body. We will be like him in Heaven (1 John 3:2). So please rid your mind that Christians entertain a polytheistic belief of God - that is a wicked belief, as you clearly wrote. Blessings.
  • Chris - in Reply on John 1
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    Thank you once again Hugo for your comments & observations. I'm sad that my comment on Jesus talking with the Father & the Trinitarian aspects troubled you, but I shall explain. Before Jesus' incarnation (when He was sent to Earth as a Man), Jesus is seen as God's Word (John 1:1-14): only One God with His Word & His Spirit, as shown to us. That Word out of God accomplished many tasks, including in creation, the words given to the prophets, etc. Remember, at this point in time, there is only One God seen in His Fullness: His Word & Spirit.

    At the time appointed, God sent forth His Word to His people, Israel (Hebrews 1:1,2) & He was called the Son of God. But Jesus came not only to bring God's Message (as a Prophet of God would), but this Man Jesus came out of God to become like us in the flesh for the purposes of being the Perfect Sacrifice for mankind's redemption. What was limiting & failing before by using animal sacrifices was now acceptable to God in providing us His Lamb. As you know, Jesus in His humanity, suffered hunger, loneliness, pain, etc. as we do & even "tempted on all points as we are", but without sin, He became the Sacrifice that worked for us. He also prayed (talked) to the Father & did so very often, as you know.

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