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John 8:41
“Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.”
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John 8:41 Context
38I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father. 39They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 40But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. 42Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
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Other Translations
Ye doe the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not borne of fornication, wee haue one Father, euen God.
- King James Version (1611) - View 1611 Bible Scan
"You are doing the deeds of your father. They said to Him, "We were not born of fornication; we have one Father: God.""
- New American Standard Version (1995)
Ye do the works of your father. They said unto him, We were not born of fornication; we have one Father, `even' God.
- American Standard Version (1901)
You are doing the works of your father. They said to him, We are true sons of Abraham; we have one Father, who is God.
- Basic English Bible
Ye do the works of your father. They said [therefore] to him, We are not born of fornication; we have one father, God.
- Darby Bible
Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We are not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
- Webster's Bible
You are doing the deeds of your father." "We," they replied, "are not illegitimate children. We have one Father, namely God."
- Weymouth Bible
You do the works of your father." They said to him, "We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father, God."
- World English Bible
Ye doen the werkis of youre fadir. Therfor thei seiden to hym, We ben not borun of fornycacioun; we han o fadir, God.
- Wycliffe Bible
ye do the works of your father.' They said, therefore, to him, `We of whoredom have not been born; one Father we have -- God;'
- Youngs Literal Bible
- King James Version (1611) - View 1611 Bible Scan
"You are doing the deeds of your father. They said to Him, "We were not born of fornication; we have one Father: God.""
- New American Standard Version (1995)
Ye do the works of your father. They said unto him, We were not born of fornication; we have one Father, `even' God.
- American Standard Version (1901)
You are doing the works of your father. They said to him, We are true sons of Abraham; we have one Father, who is God.
- Basic English Bible
Ye do the works of your father. They said [therefore] to him, We are not born of fornication; we have one father, God.
- Darby Bible
Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We are not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
- Webster's Bible
You are doing the deeds of your father." "We," they replied, "are not illegitimate children. We have one Father, namely God."
- Weymouth Bible
You do the works of your father." They said to him, "We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father, God."
- World English Bible
Ye doen the werkis of youre fadir. Therfor thei seiden to hym, We ben not borun of fornycacioun; we han o fadir, God.
- Wycliffe Bible
ye do the works of your father.' They said, therefore, to him, `We of whoredom have not been born; one Father we have -- God;'
- Youngs Literal Bible
Bible commentary
Wesley's Notes for John 8:41
8:41 Ye do the deeds of your father - He is not named yet. But when they presumed to call God their Father, then he is expressly called the devil, #John 8:44|.
People's Bible Notes for John 8:41
Joh 8:41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Satan.
Discussion for John 8:41
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4 years AgoLaura for verse 41I have no theology background, but can it not mean both? I read it as an insult. They didn 't believe Jesus was who he said he was, so why would they believe the immaculate conception. It seems they had the attitude of: Who are you to teach us? You 're not a Pharisee...you don 't even know who your father is and your mom was unmarried! We 're Purebred pharisees! Is my perspective a stretch? It was no secret that Jesus was born of a virgin, but I bet it was doubted and discredited at the time back then.Flag
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5 years AgoJuly Hunter for verse 41Many stories in the Bible revolve around genealogy. Noah wasn 't chosen because he was a particularly holy type of person. He was chosen because his lineage was not corrupted, corrupted by having ancestors who were less than human, such as from Cain 's line which came from the Devil. There were also Archons and Nefilim ancestors that one could have. Abraham may have certainly been one of their ancestors, but they could also have evil ancestors that made them "Sons of the Devil ". So, it is easy to see that the evil Pharisees and the evil corrupted Jews that Jesus was addressing, could be descendants of Abraham and descendants of evil, at the same time. Those Jews who were not corrupted could see, hear, and understand exactly what Jesus taught.Flag
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5 years AgoJohn Baker for verse 41Whoa hold on Tim...Mary and Joseph?? I think you need to put this into the proper context friend. They were talking about Abraham...millenia before Jesus pal. Mary and Joseph had exactly zero to do with the Jew moneychangers Jesus was addressing. He was calling them out as illegitimate in their claim as "Gods People" and not descendents of God's chosen line of David....evil fakes and devil's folk is the way we read it in the unmolested versions in Greek.Flag
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7 years AgoTim Kelton for verse 41In John 8:41, Jesus said: Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one father, even God. In this scripture they were telling Jesus that, they knew who their father and mother were. They knew that Mary and Joseph were not married when Mary conceived, but did know that Joseph was not his father, (They did not have and understand the Holy Ghost involvement). Thus the true meaning of fornication is reviled: Mary was Joseph’s espoused wife, Joseph had not taken her before marriage, (Chosen for him by his parents, from a child). This is still the custom in some countries today.Flag