Job Chapter 14 Discussion

  • Richard H Priday on Job 14 - 2 years ago
    There are great truths here in Job; proported to be the oldest narrative in scripture; largely held to be written by Moses. The subject of the afterlife is in great detail here. The perspective of the soul leaving the body after death (v. 10); and the concept of sheol are mentioned. In his compromised state; Job is convinced; it seems that he has no hope as those who would go to the place of torment; it would seem. In reality; since he was a man of God he would be where Lazarus went; a place of comfort or "Abraham's bosom" in the paradise section. Instead; Job sees his transgressions as it were sealed up (v. 17); and his flesh having pain; and his soul within him mourn AFTER death; it would appear after he is "sent away" v. 20. This looks much like the land of darkness and chaos in Job 12:25; and verse 24 is much like Ezekiel in description of the kings in the underworld as well. Verse 14 and 15 give a hope of his "change" and for the wrath to be past in v. 13 is similar to Daniel speaking of the Resurrection after the time of Jacob's trouble. Whether the O.T. saints are resurrected after the rapture of the church; and such timing is too much to get into here.

    Job later states that in his flesh; he shall see God ( Job 19:26).

    In these passages; declarations of truth during unbearable suffering give a lesson for saints today to do the same. This also was the case when Christ was suffering before His glorious resurrection. Trust in God must override everything else; for He is faithful; even when we are not.
  • Chris - In Reply on Job 14 - 2 years ago
    Thank you brother T. Levis. I think we all have something to offer, from how we understand the Word to how the Spirit leads us to learn & share. You too, have blessed many with your many Scriptures you share as an answer to other peoples' enquiries - for God's Word speaks more correctly & directly than what we might offer. Blessings.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Job 14 - 2 years ago
    Great answer Chris, as usual.

    Just felt like I should say, thank you for your faithfulness to GOD's WORD & helping all of us, with those answers.
  • Chris - In Reply on Job 14 - 2 years ago
    Hi James. Thanks for that clarification. It all depends on whose perspective we adopt. From a human standpoint, I would say that there are degrees of sin that we can commit; one could place murder, rape, or child molestation at the top of our list, with gossip, gluttony, or greed at the bottom end - all depending on the effect our sins would have on others or ourselves.

    However, from God's perspective, all of mankind are sinners & culpable because of our thoughts, words or actions resulting from that sin nature within us. So whether the 'worst of sinners' as Hitler & those of his ilk, or 'least of sinners' as one doing a charitable work but for selfish, self-gain motives, all are seen as guilty before an Holy God.

    We can think of Jesus' instruction on this in Luke 13:1-5 when He dealt with the gradation of sinners. Were those Galileans who were murdered by Pilate any greater as sinners than others who didn't suffer like them? Or, those who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them & killed them but sparing others living there in Jerusalem - were those who died more sinful than those who were spared? Jesus' answer to them was the same on both counts: "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." Jesus' answer was that, 'to God any sin is sin, but it's repentance that makes the difference to God, & under the Cross, God grants us forgiveness & a new life on Earth & in Heaven, in exchange'.

    So, as humans having empathy for others, we might grade sins according to their impact & suffering on others, but in God's Eyes, sin (any sin) is unacceptable & deserving of His Punishment ( Romans 6:20-23). But in Jesus there is hope for all.
  • Reply to Job 14 - In Reply on Job 14 - 2 years ago
    James All sin is broken fellowship with God, but depending on the type of sin depends on how much you affected.

    Example if you would one time get drunk that's sin. But if you decide to continually get drunk now your out of

    fellowship affect is much more constant and can lead to early death, while totally negating your fellowship with God.

    This can be said for anything out of balance, so its best just endeavor not to because no matter what you will be

    spiritually affected and infected so to speak. Also good luck with answer to prayer.
  • James mccoy - In Reply on Job 14 - 2 years ago
    I meant SIN Is one Sin worse than another.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Job 14 - 2 years ago
    Those are initials. There are many websites using those letters: CNA

    Go on Google and type: CNA, Bible
  • Adam - In Reply on Job 14 - 2 years ago
    Hi James, if you can define CNA or share a little more maybe someone can help you find a possible Bible reference.
  • James Mccoy on Job 14 - 2 years ago
    Where in the holy Bible what book and chapter verse does it say a CNA to seeing that once again is no worse than the other I heard a preacher preach that just wondered
  • Mishael - In Reply on Job 14 - 2 years ago
    There's a link on the red page you came in here with. BECOME A BELIEVER

    It has answers to most questions about eternal security, through the Word of God.

    The SEARCH BOX on that page can fetch answers from scriptures. To find info on Noah, Noah's children, "The Caught Up In The Clouds (rapture),

    Book of Life, etc. To read the same subject with numerous similar scripture, widens your view/knowledge on that subject.
  • Horace A Johnson on Job 14 - 2 years ago
    Will I recognize family in Heaven as on earth? How can I be certain that I have eternal life?
  • David on Job 14:1 - 2 years ago
    I AM SAGE ? David yes the root of as i am falable thats why i created jesus and their is no other trust bless it and it is good , i love you and yes times in hand read as and only fallow your heart as it was made for you to make your own dessions Bless you .. you wouldnt be reading this if your bloodline didnt exsist I Love yio
  • Using Bible Commentaries for Study - In Reply on Job 14:2 - 3 years ago
    Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

    14:1-6 Job enlarges upon the condition of man, addressing himself also to God. Every man of Adam's fallen race is short-lived. All his show of beauty, happiness, and splendour falls before the stroke of sickness or death, as the flower before the scythe; or passes away like the shadow. How is it possible for a man's conduct to be sinless, when his heart is by nature unclean? Here is a clear proof that Job understood and believed the doctrine of original sin. He seems to have intended it as a plea, why the Lord should not deal with him according to his own works, but according to His mercy and grace. It is determined, in the counsel and decree of God, how long we shall live. Our times are in his hands, the powers of nature act under him; in him we live and move. And it is very useful to reflect seriously on the shortness and uncertainty of human life, and the fading nature of all earthly enjoyments. But it is still more important to look at the cause, and remedy of these evils. Until we are born of the Spirit, no spiritually good thing dwells in us, or can proceed from us. Even the little good in the regenerate is defiled with sin. We should therefore humble ourselves before God, and cast ourselves wholly on the mercy of God, through our Divine Surety. We should daily seek the renewing of the Holy Ghost, and look to heaven as the only place of perfect holiness and happiness.

    Mishael: you can Google scriptures. Just type your scripture and type after it. Commentary.

    That way you can read more than one.
  • Ariah Rivera on Job 14:2 - 3 years ago
    What does Job 14:2 mean kjv version?
  • Vanessa on Job 14 - 5 years ago
    Satan is not ruler of this world, this was created by God the father and will always be his, people become polluted in evil ways, and many make reasons for those ways, pride and justification by man not God, and you can never serve 2, only one God, the creator, Job was falling away blaming God until his eyes were opened to his self pity, God doesn't justify by things, but by your faith in him
  • BSP on Job 14 - 5 years ago
    Verse 1~The lifespan of mankind is short and those days are filled with troubles. We definitely need God's Kingdom to come and take control over all of earth's dealings.
  • Klady hanna on Job 14 - 7 years ago
  • Anne on Job 14 - 8 years ago
    It is good when we go through trials and tribulations knowing that God will bring us through like pure gold. Our faith in God sustains us. He knows us and how much He can allow us to go through. For the Lord is good and His mercy endures forever.
  • Carlom on Job 14 - 9 years ago
    Job had was rooted deep in god and that should be faith of all us especially when we proudly proclaim to be followers and doets of his holy doctrine. Maybe there are those ho do not understand what means and how it should be applied.
  • Shadrack on Job 14:7 - 9 years ago
    job was a good man
  • Evans Ekomen on Job 14:7 - 9 years ago
    No matter how bad things may be and the level of deprivation, as long as God is still on the throne, there is hope of a come back and restoration.
  • ED on Job 14 - 10 years ago
    the ressurrection of the body of JOB has not yet happened yet. just like king DAVID .just like JOB said in 19 25 27 and i say a newbody i have prepared for all of my creation even you
  • Segun Omoniyi on Job 14 - 10 years ago
    Job in chapter 14 demonstrated his deep faith in the authority of whom he served
  • Moraka phatedi on Job 14:4 - 10 years ago
    God sanctified us in Jesus Christ. A new creature, a clean thing out of an unclean.

    "But God commanded his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." ( Romans 5:8).

    "And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;" ( Ephesians 2:1).

    He washed us clean with the blood of Lord Jesus.
  • Olaniran Moses on Job 14:7 - 10 years ago
    By that statement in Job 14:7,it showed how high the level of Job's faith in God.
  • James on Job 14:14 - 10 years ago
    A gr8 man of faith
  • Tyler on Job 14 - 10 years ago
    Not only an example for Christians, but those of all faiths.
  • Ikuetemi madoc esq on Job 14 - 10 years ago
    Job was upright and consistent,he should be a good example to the Christian
    faith,al over the world
  • Martha Prince on Job 14 - 11 years ago
    Paul also answered that question in Hebrews. Hebrews 9:27-28
    27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
    28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
  • Timothy Wayne George on Job 14:14 - 11 years ago
    Job asked this question 4000 years ago, �if a man dies shall he live again?� The Lord Jesus answered it in John 11:25, 26; I am the resurrection, and the life, he that believes in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: and whosoever lives and believes in me shall never die. So just like Job, we too must wait all the days of our appointed time, until our change shall come. John 5:25, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God, and they that hear shall live. So thank God that Jesus destroyed the last enemy death on the cross, and has brought immortality to light. Now because Jesus lives, we too shall live.

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