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  • Thomas F Hills
    Adam, Where does it say that one must become a Christian to have eternal life?
  • Adam
    Thomas, you replied to my comment which already answered your question. Did you not look up the first verse? Other examples are easily found through search, like John 14:6, John 3:16, etc. A Christian is a follower of Christ. If you do not follow Christ, you're not a Christian. If you're not a Christian you won't enter heaven, no matter how 'good' you claim to be. Matthew 7:21-23 is proof.
  • Thomas Hills
    Dear Titus I forgot one point. If God can write the 10 commandments than how come he couldn't write the Bible. Don't you think it strange and bitter to allow so many souls to be lost over that 1500 years when he could have written in every language and distributed bible after bible maybe even signed and just get it done? Why hasn't anyone asked this question?
  • Thomas Hills IV
    You are absolutely correct. It took 1500 years and 40 authors to write the bible, most of which was stories told, not in writing. So, are we to believe "Litterally" James or other versions of the bible word for word? Fables, parables, folk lore or poems all written to put fear in the hearts of uncivilized, barbaric, ignorant and simple minded people. Do you really think God was that inhumane?
  • Freedomborn - Grannie Annie .....
    Thomas it's good your seeking answers, I was deceived as a Teenager that God and the Bible were just made up and I believed this for 30 years but the Evidence was too Great. Later although I didn't doubt God's Reality I became very Confused by all the differant Teaching so I asked for His Wisdom and Wow what an Amazing difference. If wanted Thomas I will seek to answer your asked questions - Anne
  • Thomas F Hills
    Annie, I know this is off the subject of Job but, how did you acquire God's wisdom?
  • Freedomborn in Truth.........
    Thank you Thomas for your response, it's late in Aussie Land, I was hoping to respond sooner but I have been having trouble Posting Comments, it could be hacking again but I will leave you a few Scriptures now to read about God's Wisdom which none of us were Born with and I will share about them and some others tomorrow. Proverbs 4:5 and James 1:5. Take Care - Annie.
  • Adam
    Hi Thomas, that's great that you're reading the Bible and seeking God's truth. Why not just ask God through prayer for wisdom and discernment to know what you should take literally? It's true that Jesus often spoke using parables which are allegorical stories to influence and make a point. There are obvious metaphors in the Bible too: John 6:54 - we don't literally eat Jesus' flesh and blood, etc.
  • Thomas F Hills
    Ok Adam, let me finish this short story about prayer. After hearing these remarks after every slaughter, it dawned on me that we could be doing much better with our prayer. So, I contacted some of the clergy and suggested, we pray a advance for no more of these heinous crimes. Well, what in God's name happened? p.s. How about the survivor who thanks God for saving her. What about the dead? Thank?
  • Adam
    This seems to be a different topic. We live in a fallen sinful world which is the domain of satan. We could have been puppets but were lovingly given freewill to choose how to conduct ourselves. There is such thing as love, morality, and consequences, but we sin regularly. God Jesus came here to earth and people murdered him. Through this he paid our debt of sin giving us hope of life in heaven.
  • Thomas Hills
    Adam, I do appreciate your kind words and advice but let me tell you a short story. Remember when all of those innocent concert attendees were slaughtered in Las Vegas? Well, I sat and listened to the responses by officials, witnesses and clergy. What I heard over, and over again was, "Our prayer and thoughts are with" and from those who survived, "Thank God I am alive". Out of space Finish later
  • John Boggs
    Ultimately, the Book of Job is not primarily about the suffering of man but about the greater sovereignty of God in the midst of man's suffering.
  • Karen
    Job was a man who had plenty faith. he knew that no matter what his circumstances were God was always with him!
  • Davina
    In this book of Job we also see commitment, character, trust, what you can gain in true worship. Job understood that material possession have no place in his heart his mind set was all Jesus don't matter challenges he faced.
  • Nigel
    Material possessions? Servants were killed, animals were killed and all 10 children were slaughtered! Are you reading the same story?
  • Thomas F Hills
    For Christ sake, all you speak of is material possessions when innocent servants, animals and all ten children were slaughtered by the premeditated acts of God working with Satan. Do we not morn for the loss of lives. Can we not question for what was to be gained other than a man still standing for his faith. Did you know Job didn't know God was behind this plot?
  • Sally
    God stated that Job was perfect and upright,and one that feared God, and eshewed evil.
    Satan said, But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.

    Satan is an accuser.
    He is the Father of lies.

    God told the truth about Job.

  • Sally
    King James Bible
    For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.God took away the shame.
  • Sally
    There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil. I noticed his kids and wife are not like Job. Job's Character shows he loves God above his family and earthly possessions.
  • Mary
    hi god bless and have a blessed day
  • Evelyn jordan
    Job was a man that lost everything. ,but never gave up on God.
  • Joshua
    he was, a truly man of GOD, who was believes in GOD almight.
  • Anon
    This has always disturbed me. What is the reason to make a man suffer so much, and kill so many? What does God gain from this, besides proving a point to Satan? I understand God gives Job more than what he had back, but I don't think it's worth the suffering. I would rather live in a nice house and be happy than live in a nicer house with PTSD and depression because everyone/thing I loved is gone.
  • Thomas Hills IV
    Bravo, couldn't agree with you more. This is a story of evil doings. One bordering on a sadistic and depraved mind. How can anyone who believes in God believe this?
  • Small and nothing
    James Bible
    And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock

    In all this Job sinned not, nor charged God foolishly.

    This is what a strong house looks like.
  • Sally
    Why did Job choose to marry this woman, he had a lot of integrity.
  • Wm.Shiels
    Job chapter 1 verse 21.

    This is such a wonderful verse which clearly demonstrates the temporal state of this world, but the eternal state of our own souls and indeed the urgent need of our individual requirement to be saved before it is too late. What a wonderful demonstration of Jobs faith in God and even in despair he Blesses The LORD.
  • Thomas Hills
    Wonderful? Do you truly believe that you would be fine with God if he killed your children just to win a wager with the Devil? Oh, that's right, he replaced them later with different children. I guess that makes everything all right. A truly "Loving God" would never play this game with Satan.
  • Adam
    Job didn't sin by blaming God, but you do? God allowed Satan to test Job. While God views all life as precious, He likely has a different perspective than us regarding life on Earth- we view it as the most important thing ever, yet is described as so temporary it's a vapor James 4:14, and Philippians 1:21. If the children went straight to paradise in heaven do you feel that is "unloving"?
  • Thomas F Hills
    Yes, very unloving. We can only deal with reality and reality says that family is everything to us simple minded mortals. This test was depraved and heinous, so much so, I repeat God could never do this. Although the God from the old testament is really a Bastard. My God is good, kind, loving and considerate of our human ways and feelings. This story is a hoax. "Believe not for they lie."

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