Isaiah Chapter 52 Discussion

  • Chris - in Reply on Isaiah 52
    Hi Angela. I wouldn't agree with your question, "why are certain books removed from the Bible?" May I assume that you're referring to what are termed as 'apocryphal books'? Or, are you finding that some books that are in the recognized canon of Scripture have been deliberately removed?

    I can't answer to the latter, but to the former, there were very many books, manuscripts & other writings around throughout history, and particularly in the inter-testamental period (i.e. after Malachi's prophecy & the entrance of Jesus Christ at Bethlehem). Some of these writings were known to the Jews, but ultimately they only accepted the Word revealed through Moses (i.e. the Torah: the five Books of Moses); the Nevi'im (or, the Prophets), and the Ketuvim (or, the Writings). And within those broad divisions, we get our Bible (i.e. the same books as in the Tanakh (the Jewish Bible), but variations in order of appearance, & other minor changes).

    So, the Jews rejected the apocrypha & other spurious writings as being the Word of God, from God, & likewise, when the NT Canon was brought together, similar rules were applied, where authors, textual examination, falsehoods, etc., were reasons for post-New Testament writings being rejected. Now some Churches, e.g. the Roman Catholic & orthodox, do accept the apocryphal books as valid, but in mainstream Christianity, we believe that what we have now is God's Word, and that to fully accept these other writings, severely prejudice the Truth, as revealed to us.

    I can't give you all the errors in these books, but if you look at a couple: Tobit 12:9 (speaks of almsgiving purging sin & saves from death). 2 Maccabees 12:41-45 (place of purgatory & a monetary sin offering). Just these two references go against the teaching of Scripture. Of course, there are truths written in these books, but the evidence of errors therein, should cause us to be very wary & alert.

    I can't answer your second question - depends on which Fellowship you attend.
  • Angela on Isaiah 52
    Hello, Why are certain books removed from the bible. And Are Pastors not preaching from Book of Revelations?
  • Brother Ron - in Reply on Isaiah 52
    Rose I prayed and ask God to allow me to be a help to you,, there is no need to break any curse because Jesus Broke Every Curse that mattered on Calvary when He said "It is Finished",, i myself have had times when my faith has been shaken and i have heard of false teachers as well as false preaching, which claims that if you ever doubt your salvation,, you are lost. This is simply Not true, to me the best test of a True Believer is this ,,, "A TRUE BELIEVER WILL NEVER DENY THAT ONLY THROUGH CHRIST BLOOD CAN THEY BE SAVED",, so Rose i hope you ask God to give you final peace, not based on what any man told you but what You Truly Believe in your heart, the dying thief believed and was saved,, Only Believe, That Jesus is and is a rewarder of those who Believes in Him.
  • Suze - in Reply on Isaiah 52
    Amen to that Gigi , may God bless you .
  • GiGi - in Reply on Isaiah 52
    Hello Rose, Like Suze, I do not think the Scriptures support "generational curses". We suffer from the decisions made by our predecessors or there can be genetic predispositions or familial tendencies passed down. These are not curses, but results of our fallenness.

    When we come to Christ and are converted, the Holy Spirit makes us a new creation in Christ. So, we are no longer enslaved by any off these things that are inherited or passed on by family example. We can have victory over them through the work of the Holy Spirit in us. For some people, they have instant deliverance. For others, one needs to persevere in prayer, faith, and walking by the Spirit.

    Some things that are genetically inherited that are medical in nature may be with us all of our life. But we have the hope of the next life where these things will be totally eradicated from our beings.
  • GiGi - in Reply on Isaiah 52
    Suze, I agree with you. I do not believe in generational curses either.

    We do suffer from the decisions made from our predecessors and there can be hereditary tendencies or illnesses passed on through families genetically or by upbringing and example. But these are not curses. This is fallenness.
  • Karin - in Reply on Isaiah 52
    When we admit to ourselves and to others that we are not in control of our lives or the lives of others. We must turn every aspect of our life over to him. To trust only in him. This is hard because our Ego and Ego of others will want to stand in the way of him. Our Ego says there is no God. Our Ego says God does not love or care for us. Our Ego is like the serpent that temps us to do bad things to ourselves and others. Be of good cheer and know God wants you to trust in Him because he truly does love you and wants a loving personal relationship with you.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Isaiah 52
    Jesus said, "If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you." ( John 15:7) "whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them." ( Mark 11:23-24)

    After my salvation, the Holy Spirit had me clear out my house of any item I had that had anything to do with occult. I had to burn them. Acts 19:19. I cannot express the change in my house the next day. Peace.

    Ask the Holy Spirit to go through your house with you.

    Confront the past, and just let it all go. Ask God for an angel to guard your house for a while. Your life now is hidden within Christ. He is yours; you are his. Song of Solomon. "I am My Beloveds__My Beloved is Mine".
  • Suze - in Reply on Isaiah 52
    As a Christian of many years , I don't believe in curses . You can curse me all you like it won't work ! It's all psychological bunkum designed to freak you out . If you had read and understood the Bible you would know that if you belong to God you need not fear anything or anyone other than God Himself . Please , read your Bible and listen to it and not to people who are of no consequence .
  • Sam - in Reply on Isaiah 52
    May I suggest you reflect on Romans 10:9-13, Ephesians 2:8-9, Philippians 2:12-13.

    Please consider praying this prayer:

    Lord Jesus Christ I declare you are my Savior! I renounce any involvement in the world of darkness. I cancel every curse and ask you to forgive those who spoke them against me. I proclaim liberty from every generational curse that existed in my bloodline. I repent for opening doors to Satan. I repent for any of my family sins. I declare every generational curse is made void by the Blood of Jesus Christ. I command every generational curse that has manifests itself as sickness, depression, failed marriages, poverty, confused identity, addictions or shady behaviors to be uprooted and broken off me and my family, in Jesus name. Thank you God for setting me free from every curse in Jesus Christ name!!
  • Rose on Isaiah 52
    I'm a born again Christian for a few years now. I'm still try to understand salvation, and I need help. How do I break generational curses? I get dreams of setback all the time. Thank you and God bless you
  • T.Levis - in Reply on Isaiah 52
    James 1:2-4

    2 Corinthians 4:17

    Hebrews 11:25

    James 5:10

    Isaiah 48:10

    Psalms 22:24

    James 1:27

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Dale K. VanBuren on Isaiah 52
    Christ blood covers a multitude of sins: so why the thorn in the flesh, not considered covered as well; instead of holding any individual intresidant or accountable, until they meet face to face??? Where is the "Mercy Rule" to takeover; literally???
  • Hk Miller - in Reply on Isaiah 52
    Thank you for the KJV bible version!
  • Lou on Isaiah 52
    "Behold My Servant" says The Lord of Our Lord. He is King, Servant, Man and God. I pray Christ Jesus, My Rock and My Redeemer. My Shield and My Refuge. Cover Your Children My Lord with Your mighty Wing and suffer no temptation to bring us down to the lusts of our flesh. In Thee Lord is our path to life and Thou are The Only Door. All other beliefs in the temporal world rest upon men's works, but not so with Our Lord, for He is The Only Righteous One to perform His work. And His work is accomplished for us and His Grace to us is sufficient.
  • BSP on Isaiah 52
    Verse 7-The good news of the promises in the Bible are truly beautiful.
  • Mary Larkins on Isaiah 52
    Isaiah 52 Is filled with prophetic messages of hope faith and instructions on how to conduct ourselves as Christians to be prepared of his coming. The world cannot see these messages because of the Spirit of delusional thinking that it easier to believe wrong over right. Henceforth they will be consumed if they do not altar their ways and thoughts and return back to Jesus the Saviour who takes away the sins of this world. The Church has closed its eyes and placed them on political and business as is the order of worship. But many still seek to do good and await the forthcoming of our Risen Saviour. Be ready my friends he's on his way back. God bless you all.
  • Teri on Isaiah 52
    He is the soon and coming King, and every eye will see HIM! This will be a huge, global event. Every knee shall Him be all praise and glory! HOLY HOLY Holy is He. Israel will say blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!
  • Stephen B. on Isaiah 52
    As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:

    This is Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God, God the Son himself. What verse 14 is saying is that He did not resemble a man because of his torture. That is how much He loves us.
  • A disciple on Isaiah 52
    "The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God." The word spoken by the LORD when He came down to see the city and the tower, must be completely filled up; and then shall the end come: and every eye shall see Him, and the whole earth shall wail because of Him. Then shall Israel be converted and know the LORD!
  • Bruce on Isaiah 52
    Aavtar: 60 years ago churches had revivals in barns,tents,people out and about preaching the gospel,knocking on doors.They have at least 3 services a week. At the same time TV was catching on.Laws being passed
    Today most churches are dead just one big social club. They say this is the US,we don't get persecuted. If they confess Christ before man,they would be persecuted, JUDGMENT IS COMING
  • A disciple on Isaiah 52
    Aavtar Singh; What you say is so true and powerful, but I'm afraid that the vast multitudes in the West have no idea nor any desire to know the horrible reality of the nature of the world we live in. Most can only relate to what you say as if it were far away from ever touching them; so they can't be bothered with it. Many use ignorance and indifference to deceive themselves about what faith is.
  • Aavtar Singh on Isaiah 52
    Political laws n powers along with zealots from the mus lim communitities stops many from sharing n preaching the good news. But it is not so in the US or Europe yet many in these parts are moving away from church of Christ. Its can b confusing to those of us who live in a distant continent where death by the mu slims for preaching or sharing is real.
  • A disciple on Isaiah 52
    Brianna vs. 7; In context to the rest of this chapter, we carry the words of redemption and restoration to a world that cannot yet see it to so. The Spirit by which we live and speak and conduct our lives, is given into our hearts from above, for the very purpose of giving hope to all who are lost here below. We are Ambassadors of Christ, charged with His Words and His Business, while we are here.
  • Brianna vs. 7 on Isaiah 52
    We should welcome those who are preaching about the good news of God's kingdom. This was a commandment from Jesus to do so, and today very few are meeting that call to action. Being able to boldly proclaim the good news is a feature of God's people. Who are going and preaching about the Bible?
  • Godwin Simeon Umoh on Isaiah 52:2
    ISAIAH 52:2 The revelation in this verse 2 of Isaiah 52 is that there was provision that GOD has already provided for the people for the freedom from the bands, the yoke, and the mess of the enemies but yet the Nation, the Sons and the daughters of zion, or the church could not activate this deliverance provision just the same way Moses was complaining with an instrument of power and breakthrough in his hand. In other word, there are certain level of satanic and demonic power, infact the bible says all powers of the enemies that GOD has put them under our foot and yet some believers stil allow those defeated powers of darkness to hold them captive as a result of ignorance. I therefore implore all christians to wake up and take their stand,execise their authorities, enforce their power over their enemies and their deception and oppression. A man in honour or authority that understandeth not is like the beast that perishet.
  • Lester carter on Isaiah 52
    Weeping may endure for a night but joy comes in the morning, this chapter truly awoke me to the intentions of God where his people are concern not only historical but present, it is time the church awake
  • Odumetse on Isaiah 52
    the lord god go before thee meaning when the steps of a righteous man are ordered by the lord god he will direct, lead and guard them and the word of god continue to say that also the lord said in his word that he will be our rear guard meaning he will be our protection at our back covering us, in short i can say when god walk before a man he also protect a man
  • Frances hall on Isaiah 52:8
    The multiplicity of traditions in Judaism and Christianity reveal Christ. As individuals draw nearer to the heart of their own traditions they view the other traditions more clearly and begin to see Christ in one another 's traditions. For some this is a fearful or an awesome experience. For some this is a jubilant realization. These traditions sing together at their highest points. From these high places of Zion lovers of truth and divine judgment are able to see eye to eye. They get a foretaste of the jubilance that will soon fill the whole earth.
  • Lilian on Isaiah 52
    Jesus wants us to prepare for our salvation. He feed us with his heavenly manna the word of God Blessed are those who drinks the living water for they will be never thirsty. For so many who were called but only few are choosen. God loves us so much as Jesus have already redeemed us on the cross so that we will have life in abundance. God is washing away our unrighteousness and cleanse our sins. Thanks be to God for the precious blood that shed for us. We must obey God 's words as Jesus is so faithful to his promises that he will never everl leave us nor forsake us. Trought Christ everything is possible. Be still and know that Jesus is our Savior, we must love him and keep his words until rapture.

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