I gave my understanding of these verses; we can see a similarity in scripture throughout the Bible but the context of the chapter or chapters helps understanding. If you feel this is about end time that is ok. Cyrus did defeat Babylon but God called him His servant that would free God's people, end their punishment of 70 years, and help them rebuild the temple.
You are the 1st person to say that in over a year of posting, thank you. My work prompts fellow Americans to entertain the painful reality of who we are, and why we go by way of the Dodo. People don't like to look in the mirror, and they forget what's in the rear-view mirror. I know prophesy like I know my family, but it serves little good to those full of national pride. Once you get a feel for the narrative, it turns into a game of concentration, matching up each prophet's point of view, the language shared, of the same event being described. I am self taught from the ground up, therefore, I don't seek out scholarly direction, or read publications that are inherently wrong, and based on misguided bias. Allowing the Bible to define itself is the best approach to garnering the truth. Have a great day!
You can't see the connection besides the obvious, that both Cyrus and anti-christ destroy Babylon? You can't see similarities between the attacks? Much of what God proclaims of Cyrus can be found in anti-christ.
Anti-christ posses every characteristic that previous empires boasted, to include Persia. ( Daniel 7)
The references are short and subtle here, but none the less, the association is evident. Don't sell yourself short on the depth of richness offered by the prophets.
Isaiah 46:11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel FROM A FAR COUNTRY: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.
Isaiah 13:5 They come FROM A FAR COUNTRY, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.
This reveals shared anti-christ traits, his many descriptions, here a ravenous bird from the east that executes God's will. It is all connected, even in small ways. God holds the right hand of Cyrus, sanctified in him to do God's will, like anti-christ.
Below you can see the similarity, the order, God is one with anti-christ (like Cyrus) in battle, and is delighted with His army that's about to destroy Babylon. God even calls anti-christ's army "His sanctified ones" (like Cyrus). This theme mirrors many other accounts, for example:
( Isaiah 13:1-7) specifically vs 5:
1 The burden of Babylon, which Isaiah the son of Amoz did see.
2 Lift ye up a banner upon the high mountain, exalt the voice unto them, shake the hand, that they may go into the gates of the nobles.
3 I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger, even them that rejoice in my highness.
4 The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the LORD of hosts mustereth the host of the battle.
5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.
6 Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.
7 Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:
No. the one hundred and forty four thousand represents the 12 tribes of Israel. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. That will be a lot more that one hundred and fourth four thousand people.
Yes, Jehovah ( psalm 83:18) prophesied or was revealing to Isaiah about Cyrus ( Isaiah 44:28)
he (King of Persia) helped rebuild Jerusalem ( Daniel 10:1). yes, if a prophecy hasn't yet happened... it will happen; and it will be fulfilled and accomplished. ( Isaiah 46:10,11)
Fulfilled Prophecy:
Destruction of Jerusalem 70 c.e ( Luke 21:5,6; John 4:21)
This is not about the end times; this was during their captivity in Babylon. They were making idols and worshiping them and they were loading down the wagons with so much gold, and silver it was putting a burden on the animals. God through Isaiah was telling them how useless and regardless of how many idols they made would not deliver them from the burden of captivity.
In verse 9 God is telling them to remember the things of old, He is reminding them how He was who brought them out of Egypt. Telling them "I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me".
Verse 10, there have been prophecies given in ancient time that have been fulfilled but a few have not but, we can see the prophecies that have been fulfilled gives us total assurance the ones that have not been fulfilled will be, "My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:"
Verse 11 ravenous bird, this bird is King Cyrus, who was named long before he was born and prophesied through Jerimiah, that we see come to be in Ezra1:1 King Cyrus was God's servant that freed them to return to Jerusalem and rebuild the temple. "that the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah might be fulfilled". The emblem of King Cyrus was a Golden Eagle.
And what God says we can have total faith will be done, "I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it". Verses 12and 13 are kind of where we are today. Those who are not born again need to repent and accept Jesus, for the righteousness that is in Jesus our savior is near, and the end time appears to be close.
This is about anti-christ, his many descriptions, here a ravenous bird from the east that executes God's will. Below you can see God is one with anti-christ in battle, and is delighted with His army that's about to destroy Babylon. God even calls anti-christ's army "His sanctified ones". This theme mirrors many other accounts, for example:
( Isaiah 13:1-7) specifically vs 5:
1 The burden of Babylon, which Isaiah the son of Amoz did see.
2 Lift ye up a banner upon the high mountain, exalt the voice unto them, shake the hand, that they may go into the gates of the nobles.
3 I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger, even them that rejoice in my highness.
4 The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the LORD of hosts mustereth the host of the battle.
5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.
6 Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.
7 Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:
My comment is partly a question. Isaiah 46:10 - 12
Indeed God loves all the people he created out of his image by sending his son Jesus Christ. Even though there is a condition to it, which is to accept his son as Lord and savior. John 3:16
My question is that, does these verses in lsaiah 46:10 and 12 fulfilling the end times to our generation because sin has gone beyond man's understanding and what is verse eleven teaching us about the ravenous bird that will occur from the east ( some versions describes as 'far' east), to which God will permit to happen in this generation.
My comment is partly a question. Isaiah 46:10 - 12
Indeed God loves all the people he created out of his image by sending his son Jesus Christ. Even though there is a condition to it, which is to accept his son as Lord and savior. John 3:16
My question is that, does these verses in lsaiah 46:10 and 12 fulfilling the end times to our generation because sin has gone beyond man's understanding and what is verse eleven teaching us about the ravenous bird that will occur from the east ( some versions describes as 'far' east), to which God will permit to happen in this generation.
Isaiah 55:10-11. For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
We shall be partakers of Christ, IF we hold the beginning of our confidence stead fast unto the end oh, yes the person can be saved and be lost if he turned his back on God
John 12: 28-30 the voice in Heaven indicated that a special event will take place in the future--that is God's name will be glorified again in the future just like Jesus glorified God name by doing all the work that God asked him to go and do it on earth.
Jesus indicated clearly that the voice that came from heaven is not for him but for the people. this means that people must not confused when similar things happen in the future (out time). This prevent the people from confused in case they confused just like they did when Jesus came down on earth when they think Jesus is just the son of Maria and Joseph.
We forgive others for our peace not theirs that's why christ says forgive always 70 times 7 in one day. Because he wants us in peace and if we hold on to what people does to us it takes our peace. Plus there is no peace in judgement.
Yes if a person rejects the Holy spirit in his life and continues evil living without repenting or doesn't even care he can loss salvation. But that's up to God who knows everything in a persons heart God is the only true judge.
verse-3 "Hearken unto me..."/ verse-8 "Remember this... / verse-9 "Remember the former things of old..." / verse -12 " Hearken unto me, ye stouthearted"... WOW, WOW, WOW... it is clear as the sun on a cloudless day... woe, woe, woe, unto the nation(s) blessed by God then they go whoring after the gods of men / lust of the flesh, eye, pride
The word is From God. I Appreciate it!
( 2 Timothy 3:16,17)
I gave my understanding of these verses; we can see a similarity in scripture throughout the Bible but the context of the chapter or chapters helps understanding. If you feel this is about end time that is ok. Cyrus did defeat Babylon but God called him His servant that would free God's people, end their punishment of 70 years, and help them rebuild the temple.
Have a great day,
RLW
You are the 1st person to say that in over a year of posting, thank you. My work prompts fellow Americans to entertain the painful reality of who we are, and why we go by way of the Dodo. People don't like to look in the mirror, and they forget what's in the rear-view mirror. I know prophesy like I know my family, but it serves little good to those full of national pride. Once you get a feel for the narrative, it turns into a game of concentration, matching up each prophet's point of view, the language shared, of the same event being described. I am self taught from the ground up, therefore, I don't seek out scholarly direction, or read publications that are inherently wrong, and based on misguided bias. Allowing the Bible to define itself is the best approach to garnering the truth. Have a great day!
teachable contribution. Be blessed always.
Anti-christ posses every characteristic that previous empires boasted, to include Persia. ( Daniel 7)
The references are short and subtle here, but none the less, the association is evident. Don't sell yourself short on the depth of richness offered by the prophets.
Isaiah 46:11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel FROM A FAR COUNTRY: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.
Isaiah 13:5 They come FROM A FAR COUNTRY, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.
Below you can see the similarity, the order, God is one with anti-christ (like Cyrus) in battle, and is delighted with His army that's about to destroy Babylon. God even calls anti-christ's army "His sanctified ones" (like Cyrus). This theme mirrors many other accounts, for example:
( Isaiah 13:1-7) specifically vs 5:
1 The burden of Babylon, which Isaiah the son of Amoz did see.
2 Lift ye up a banner upon the high mountain, exalt the voice unto them, shake the hand, that they may go into the gates of the nobles.
3 I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger, even them that rejoice in my highness.
4 The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the LORD of hosts mustereth the host of the battle.
5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.
6 Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.
7 Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:
he (King of Persia) helped rebuild Jerusalem ( Daniel 10:1). yes, if a prophecy hasn't yet happened... it will happen; and it will be fulfilled and accomplished. ( Isaiah 46:10,11)
Fulfilled Prophecy:
Destruction of Jerusalem 70 c.e ( Luke 21:5,6; John 4:21)
Unfulfilled Prophecy:
Revelation 18&20 ( 1John 5:19; Revelation 12:7-12)
Revelation 21:3-4
Revelation 22 ( Matthew 24:14; Daniel 2:44)
Hope this helps
This is not about the end times; this was during their captivity in Babylon. They were making idols and worshiping them and they were loading down the wagons with so much gold, and silver it was putting a burden on the animals. God through Isaiah was telling them how useless and regardless of how many idols they made would not deliver them from the burden of captivity.
In verse 9 God is telling them to remember the things of old, He is reminding them how He was who brought them out of Egypt. Telling them "I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me".
Verse 10, there have been prophecies given in ancient time that have been fulfilled but a few have not but, we can see the prophecies that have been fulfilled gives us total assurance the ones that have not been fulfilled will be, "My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:"
Verse 11 ravenous bird, this bird is King Cyrus, who was named long before he was born and prophesied through Jerimiah, that we see come to be in Ezra1:1 King Cyrus was God's servant that freed them to return to Jerusalem and rebuild the temple. "that the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah might be fulfilled". The emblem of King Cyrus was a Golden Eagle.
And what God says we can have total faith will be done, "I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it". Verses 12and 13 are kind of where we are today. Those who are not born again need to repent and accept Jesus, for the righteousness that is in Jesus our savior is near, and the end time appears to be close.
This is short but I hope it helps,
God bless,
RLW
( Isaiah 13:1-7) specifically vs 5:
1 The burden of Babylon, which Isaiah the son of Amoz did see.
2 Lift ye up a banner upon the high mountain, exalt the voice unto them, shake the hand, that they may go into the gates of the nobles.
3 I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger, even them that rejoice in my highness.
4 The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the LORD of hosts mustereth the host of the battle.
5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.
6 Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.
7 Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:
Indeed God loves all the people he created out of his image by sending his son Jesus Christ. Even though there is a condition to it, which is to accept his son as Lord and savior. John 3:16
My question is that, does these verses in lsaiah 46:10 and 12 fulfilling the end times to our generation because sin has gone beyond man's understanding and what is verse eleven teaching us about the ravenous bird that will occur from the east ( some versions describes as 'far' east), to which God will permit to happen in this generation.
Bible commentors l need your comment on this.
I will appreciate you.
Thanks
Indeed God loves all the people he created out of his image by sending his son Jesus Christ. Even though there is a condition to it, which is to accept his son as Lord and savior. John 3:16
My question is that, does these verses in lsaiah 46:10 and 12 fulfilling the end times to our generation because sin has gone beyond man's understanding and what is verse eleven teaching us about the ravenous bird that will occur from the east ( some versions describes as 'far' east), to which God will permit to happen in this generation.
Bible commentors l need your comment on this.
I will appreciate you.
Thanks
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Isaiah 55:10-11. For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
God bless
you say: "yes the person can be saved and be lost if he turned his back on god" i agree!
thank god we have such a great shepherd in our lord jesus christ that want let that happen!!!
the shepherd job is to care for the sheep and ( make sure they dont get lost in the wilderness by wondering.)
john 10:11
i am the good shepherd: ( the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.)
with that being said i feel secure the "good shepherd" will do his job!!
how will he do that?
john 10:7-9.
then said jesus unto them again, verily, verily, i say unto you, i am the door of the sheep.
all that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
i am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
jesus says he is the door of the sheep, there is only one door! you came in by jesus, "you have to slip by him to get lost".
john 10:27-28.
my sheep hear my voice, and i know them, and they follow me:
and i give unto them eternal life; ( and they shall never perish,) neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
:no man shall pluck them out of my hand is one thing, " they shall never perish' is another!!
no man shall pluck them out his hand, is because they want follow no one but jesus. ( they hear his voice and wont follow strangers.
they shall never perish covers broader protection, he want let them wonder off, get lost,
"he holds them in his hand"!!!
sheeps gets lost by nature, they cant keep they self safe.
thats the shepherds job. and they dont loose they sheep (( because they follow him ))!!!
and this is the work of the holy spirirt!!!
god bless.
Jesus indicated clearly that the voice that came from heaven is not for him but for the people. this means that people must not confused when similar things happen in the future (out time). This prevent the people from confused in case they confused just like they did when Jesus came down on earth when they think Jesus is just the son of Maria and Joseph.
will get less rewards.
Jesus did! :) You're going to have to stomp on satans head just like Jesus. It was a prophesy written in Genesis 3:15. It was fulfilled.
Fight those voices. Fill your VOICE with scriptures you have memorized. The Bible says we have the Mind of Christ.
You have all you need to make demons run, when you show up. Recognize their FRUIT; send them to deserts and hot places, in Jesus name.