Isaiah Chapter 30 Discussion



 
  • Ahimbisibwe Dan on Isaiah 30:30
    God is good and great all the time
  • Anne ..... on Isaiah 30
    God has allowed it; and it works upon lines of reality that He has established, created, made. This entire earth planet's experience, which Heaven may well be 'Paused' for, to watch, work with, care for has been allowed in order to forever preserve the actual spark of real Freedom to act within our somewhat self made own personalities, that our love for, service to and with God and each-other is honest and freely our own choices, versus the dystopian dull faced automatons depicted in films, masses hollow following some assumed dictator.... the way of the evil one, who deserves not the Capital Letter. Yes, God REALLY LOVES US!
  • Neumon Barbee on Isaiah 30
    The book says that God created good & evil. Light & darkness. That if it's evil in the city, God has done it. Why then does God punish & reward people if all the good & evil is done by God itself?
  • Chris - in Reply on Isaiah 30
    Hi Neumon. I believe you're referring to Isaiah 45:7 and Amos 3:6. Please correct me if you're thinking of other similar verses.

    If we read those passages as given & understood, then we're liable to believe that the "evil" being spoken of in both verses is a moral or sadistic evil constructed by God. However, we must turn to the Hebrew to interpret that word. In both cases, the word for "evil" is from the same root word: Rah; and in both instances 'evil' is meant to imply 'calamity or adversity'.

    So reading Isaiah 45:7: God both forms the light & creates darkness; if God chooses to remove the light, whether a physical light from the sun, we will have darkness. Or, He chooses to not give or prevent spiritual light coming to someone, then that mind lies in darkness (e.g. Ephesians 5:8, 1 Thessalonians 5:5).

    Similarly, with "I make peace & create evil": God can choose to bring peace into a situation or within a person, or He can withhold that peace, & calamity or adversity prevails. So, when it says that God creates 'evil', it's impossible for an Holy God to bring out some evil from within Himself, when no such evil can even exist in such holiness. But God can remove light & peace for His Own purposes, thereby leaving distress & calamity.

    Amos 3:6: in like manner, when a trumpet (of warning) is sounded, the people ought to be alerted & afraid of what's to come. If there is a calamity being struck in a city, shouldn't the inhabitants likewise be warned that maybe the Lord is trying to tell them something? Sometimes, not always, when we face an adversity or calamity in our lives, we need to seek the Lord's Face & examine our lives, lest there may be a word of warning from God for us. The Lord told Israel (through Amos) in verse 2: "You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities." Israel was greatly blessed, but they likewise also faced much warning & punishment for their sins & departure from God.
  • Michael on Isaiah 30
    We can hear the voice of God when we obey His law and command. The law of God is written in the table of our heart in form of conscience which every body has.
  • Philip - in Reply on Isaiah 30
    I have noticed the sun is a brighter white and can be more blinding and glaring and more visible behind clouds and the same for the moon too. I think it's very obvious but no mention of it anywhere, except here?
  • Sheila Beaston on Isaiah 30:21
    When I pray and read the Bible, I can sense God's presence very near me. I'm very thankful to have a God and Savior who loves each one of us and wants to have a close walk and relationship with us. Thank you for the opportunity to acknowledge God . I couldn't make it without Him. He is everything to me and my dearest and wisest Counselor.

    S. B.
  • BSP on Isaiah 30
    Verse 21-Ears are sometimes used in a figurative way in the Bible. We can hear God's voice by reading the Bible and also by those in congregation who teach from the Bible.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Isaiah 30
    People have 3 gates by which to process the scriptures.

    By speaking the scriptures as you read out loud: mouth gate.

    Seeing the scriptures: eye gate.

    By hearing what you are speaking: ear gate.

    So no matter if you are , deaf, blind, or cannot speak; the Word of God will enter into you.
  • ANTHONY UDZU on Isaiah 30:1
    The lord god is a son and shield to all who believe and will also give same grace and glory and bever will he with hold anything good from such people.
  • Willie on Isaiah 30
    So if i am reading vs 15 correctly, we are to wait on the lord and rest and not try to hurry things our strength will be in our confidence and being quiet we will be saved and protected from our adversity? If I got this wrong or need a little correction please do so

    thanks to all here
  • Christianlifecoach-friend clcf - in Reply on Isaiah 30
    There is one important word that your answer left out..."repentance." I'm not sure which translation of the Bible you have, that might be the difference. But in my Bible V.15-

    For thus the Lord God, the Holy One of Israel, has said, "In repentance and rest you will be saved, In quietness and trust is your strength."

    Hope this helps.

    clcf
  • Luu on Isaiah 30:1
    When the Bible speaks of women covering the head, is it talking biblically to cover with the spirit of the Lord ? Or an actual head covering before we pray?
  • Chris - in Reply on Isaiah 30:1
    1 Corinthians chapter 11 gives the ruling on head covering, of both men & women. The instruction is clearly that of a physical head covering & the reason for that is because of the order of creation (Christ is the head of man, as man is the head of woman) & for the observance of angelic beings in our corporate worship (v 10). This instruction was never to be a burden for women, as in those days particularly, it was quite natural for the head to be covered. But there may have been some who refused to do so, & therefore this instruction was given. And this applied to men who wilfully refused to remove their covering. All these actions were dishonouring to the Lord & showed contempt for each other.

    Why is this not generally practised today? Various reasons are given, chiefly because of it not being culturally done/acceptable in general society, except for protection from the sun or for fashion at events. Each one of us must be convinced in our own hearts over this matter & to be careful not to be in judgement over another thus falling into sin.
  • Ian - in Reply on Isaiah 30:1
    Isaiah 30:1 is referring to the Holy Spirit as the only legitimate covering for a person.

    1 Chorinthians 2 Verses 1 and 2 are an exhortation to follow Christ. Verses 3-15 state a practice that was prevalent

    in the Chorinthian church and the reasons to justify it.

    Verse 16 states that what is described in verses 3-15 does not come from God - 'But if any man seem to be

    contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.'
  • ISRAEL on Isaiah 30:15
    i love this
  • Obbie Beal on Isaiah 30
    Chapter 30 and 31. At that time GOD is forced to apply HIS wrath on HIS chosen people. HIS chosen people sought other for their help, not knowing others also are due the wrath of GOD. A repeat of yesteryear has occurred again in 2020, because Collectively the chosen ones has ran to others for help, thereby adding sin to sin. Others has already turned away from GOD. John 3:16-21 is our only HOPE.
  • Debra Denise Dunlap - in Reply on Isaiah 30
    There is a difference between "called" and "chosen." We must understand this vital distinction when interpreting scripture.
  • BUCK on Isaiah 30
    An open rebuke is better than secret love.
  • Teri on Isaiah 30
    God is waiting for whosoever will call on the name of the Lord...v18! His arm is outstretched still to those who need to repent. I was once rebellious and my daughter too, but praise the Lord that He waits for us. That's what we want for ourselves and our children, and that's what Father God wants for His creation.
  • BSP on Isaiah 30
    Verse 18~Jehovah God is patient with us all because he does not want anyone to be destroyed and he wants us to imitate him and be patient as well.
  • Janet on Isaiah 30
    V. 15 Jesus, let us trust in the salvation You alone provide.
  • BSP on Isaiah 30
    Verse 15~By trusting in Jehovah God and doing things his way, we will be saved.
  • Obbie Beal on Isaiah 30
    Again; the chosen one's made very sinful chores thereby angered Jehovah; so Jehovah allowed his chosen one's to have what 'they /chose asked for'; though it would cause pain-and-suffering it was 'their' chores. After enough pain-and-suffering Jehovah was still standing where thy left HIM, and waiting for the chosen one's to rightly return to Jehovah and His blessing. SIN, SIN, SIN, WOW! WOW! WOW!
  • BSP on Isaiah 30
    Verse 21: God continues to give us direction through the pages of his Word, the Bible.
  • A disciple on Isaiah 30
    "Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever: that this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:" WE ARE AN EPISTLE OF CHRIST, which all men read; and The Father has sent His Spirit into our hearts, to be worked out in our lives, and so to convict the world and show them Jesus!
  • Tim123 on Isaiah 30
    referring to V.10: It is important to listen to good preaching that goes deep, instead of one who speaks "unto smooth things" and keeps it PC and doesn't want to upset anybody
  • John Poulos on Isaiah 30
    My favorite book -but do not have wisdom to comprehend it.
  • BSP on Isaiah 30
    The opening verses showed that the Israelites needed help but they failed to look to the proper place for help. Jehovah God is the best source of help possible and they should have looked to Him instead of putting trust in men and horses. If we fail to look to the right place for help we will experience hardship just as the Israelites did.
  • Brendaguzman591@gmail.com on Isaiah 30
    thank you Lord we must remain consistent with the word of the Lord and Trust him


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