Isaiah Chapter 56 Discussion



 
  • Carleton - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    Hello Tom, Thank you for the prayers. He is the Lamb and we can be lambs with Him!
  • Tom - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    Hi Kiki,

    There are many scripture reference about healing throughout the Bible! If you are unfamiliar with these, may I suggest getting a small "Promises hand booklet" these are inexpensive and wonderful, it has Scripture verses for various topics. It would help you, understanding God's promises and what our Lord Jesus Christ did for us on the cross, for he laid down his life for us, so we can have eternal life! Praise God! He is the lamb of God so we may receive salvation and healing and the promises of God to those who believe and receive him as Lord and savior!



    Concerning "Crystals" it is not a Christian practice, but a new age doctrine and occult religion!! So, please stay away from that! Yes, Anointing oil is still used today and according to The New Testament in the Bible (see James) the elders of the church anointed with oil as they prayed for those who are sick. It is still practiced today. However, Everyone should pray in faith and asked the Lord Jesus to heal for those that are sick. by His stripes we were healed! God is faithful to hear and answer our prayers! I hope this helps. God bless you!
  • Helene - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    Hi Kiki,

    Regardless of the remedies you choose to use all healing is through the blood of CHRIST. Keep praising GOD and thank HIM for your healing. Affirm HIS promise to you from Isaiah 53:4 "Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted." GOD will speak to your heart, if you listen and obey. God bless you and may you be blessed with HIS healing touch.
  • Sarah on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    Praise the Lord. I absolutely love the book of Isaiah. Although the book of Hebrews is probably my fav book.

    God bless. Amen
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    Msconnie, may the Spirit (truth) grace you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Very FEW understand the kingdom or heaven or HEAVEN or THE GOSPEL or the good news.

    WHERE DOES GOD DWELL?

    Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for behold, the kingdom of God IS WITHIN YOU.

    1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God DWELLETH in you?

    1 Kings 8:27 But will God indeed DWELL ON THE EARTH? behold the HEAVEN and HEAVEN OF HEAVENS cannot contain THEE; how much less this HOUSE (TEMPLE) that I have builded?

    Hebrews 3:6 For Christ is a Son over his own HOUSE; whose HOUSE WE ARE....

    Hebrews 9:1-2 .....WE have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the THRONE ( Isaiah 66:1) of the majesty in the HEAVENS; (YOU)

    (vs 2) A minister of the sanctuary, and TRUE TABERNACLE, which the Lord pitched and not man.

    Psalms 148:4 Praise him, YE HEAVEN OF HEAVENS...

    Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in HEAVEN....

    Hebrews 12:23

    Romans 8:29

    Colossians 1:27 .....CHRIST IN YOU

    You never die if ye are born of the SPIRIT you just change bodies.

    1 Corinthians 15:51-58
  • Jesse - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    Msconnie,

    I believe that the rapture is going to happen before the tribulation period. The reason I believe this is because of what we're told in 1 Thessalonians Chapter 5. Chapter 4 tells us about the rapture in Verses 13-18, even though the word rapture is not used, but we know it to be the rapture of the church. Chapter 5 often gets overlooked.

    People go to Chapter 4 about the rapture, and everybody debates about it. But as soon as you get to Chapter 5, it says that when Christ comes, it is going to be like a thief in the night. But it won't be sudden for you because you are children of the day.

    The people in Thessalonica were told that the rapture had already happened, that their loved ones are in the grave and they have missed it. They are on the earth and they have missed it, and get ready because we are in the tribulation period.

    And in Chapter 5 of 1 Thessalonians, Paul described for the believer that first of all, it will be sudden judgment for the people who are not ready. But he says you are ready because you belong to Christ. But secondly, he said that God's people are for salvation, not for judgment. Once the church is removed, judgment is going to begin. So Paul is telling them that if you're still here and you are one of God's people, then it is not the tribulation period. That is important!

    So I believe that the rapture will take place prior to the 7 year tribulation period. Just as John was caught up into heaven to see the events of the tribulation unfold, I believe we also will be caught up the same. We will be raptured, taken to heaven where we'll participate in the wedding feast. And then after the seven years, when Christ comes back at His second coming, we come back with Him!
  • Deborah on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    An illegitimate child (manzar)?
  • Me two - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    Jesus is the Christ , you need to start there !

    God Bless
  • Mishael - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    John 15:10 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

    1 John 2:3 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

    Leviticus 22:31 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Therefore shall ye keep my commandments, and do them: I am the LORD.

    Leviticus 26:14 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments;

    Ezra 9:10 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    And now, O our God, what shall we say after this? for we have forsaken thy commandments,

    John 14:15 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    If ye love me, keep my commandments.

    It will go faster for you if you'll learn to use the SEARCH BOX when you come into the website. Put the words you remember about the verse and hit the arrow.

    This search engine is really fast. Yo might have to read through many pages. One nugget of wisdom is worth the effort.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    2 Chronicles 7:14 View whole chapter

    If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
  • Ernest - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    In Genjesus it says that after God had finished the work of creation he rested on the seventh day. It wasn't until the Law (ten commandments etc) was given in Exodus that God invested the Sabbath day with its holy day character, by giving to the nation of Israel a day of rest thereby separating them from all other nations.

    When the Lord Jesus came and through his death instituted a new Covenant through His blood law keeping ended. And rightfully so because it was impossible to keep. Offense in one point was to break the covenant and incur the curse. Jesus lived a perfect life on our behalf and then died to put away our sin through His cross work. Now we have a righteousness through The Lord Jesus that God is willing to except. As the Bible says we are accepted in the beloved.

    The Sabbath day is the only commandment not repeated in the New Testament. We do not keep the commandments to earn God's favor but because we are born of God through the New Birth that is being born again from above we desire to please Him and The Lord Jesus Christ and so we accept His desire in living a God honoring Christ exalting life.

    Christ arose on Sunday which we refer to as The Lord's Day. We never find the Churches of the New Testament meeting on Saturday (Sabbath) they did meet on Sunday or The Lord's Day and were ceaselessly active on that day for the furtherance of the Gospel.

    Here's what Paul states on the Sabbath Roman's 14: 6-6

    "One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind." "He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it.
  • Leah on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    Do those under the new covenant have to keep the sabbath? I thought Jesus fulfilled the sabbath.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    S Spencer, a parable to you, you said I am green.

    Matthew 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth (green) leaves, you know summer is nigh.

    Revelation 22:2 ..... And the leaves shall be for the healing of the nations......

    GBY
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    Thanks Earl,

    I agree.

    Romans 6:4-5. Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

    For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    S Spencer, may the Spirit grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    The Spirit has revealed to you HIS truth in your reply to Karen. The promise was the indwelling of the Holy Spirit (immortal life by Christ); but this was not possible without RESURRECTION; therefore, we and the saints of the old testament also became partakers of HIS RESURRECTION.

    Hebrews 11:39-40

    Isaiah 26:19

    Revelation 20:5-6

    Matthew 27:52-53

    Revelation 7 they were sealed with the Holy Spirit and His immortal body

    1 Timothy 6:16
  • Mishaet on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    I was googling one day and I was shopping for a Bible for a friend and thinking of an old Rapture movie...

    Did you know you can buy guillotines online? Even on Amazon!

    These days now have got to be the last days.
  • Mishaet - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    It's a Hebrew letter which means, to support.

    If you know Hebrew you may want to Google that. There is very much information on that.
  • Carleton - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    Hello S Spencer, Thank you. I can barely use an ipad must less a phone for communication. My wife however is a natural. I am happy that you had a safe road trip and can rest at home again. I appreciate your Biblical instructions in the way and the manner of such. We all have our strengths and weaknesses and they can even appear at different times in a day.

    God bless this run that we are in.

    Is it not a run of sanctification because of His continued love?

    Carleton
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    Hi Carleton,

    Thanks for your reply, I just come in from a road trip and had to rest before I can get in front the computer, I'm the worst I have ever seen when it comes to replying or submitting a comment from my cell phone, I have left out whole words by mistake often.

    God bless
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    Hi Karen.

    PG 2

    Now I'm not sure if all Israel and the prophets and priests knew that all the sacrifices and works in the old tabernacle was pointing to Christ but i believe John the baptist knew, that's what his baptism was about and it was for the Jews, he prepared the way for Christ.

    And maybe Abraham, he dwelt in tents looking for a city whose maker was God.

    Hebrews 11:9-10. By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:

    For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

    This would perhaps be the New Jerusalem,

    I believe their veil we being taken away is what we see in Hebrews 11:8 when God says he will write his laws in their hearts, "not stoney tablets" for ALL shall know me, That's the work of the Holyspirit, "spirit of truth" Jesus told the disciples to wait on the Holyspirit before they go on with there mission.

    So the promise was not to be completed under the old covenant because it could not be complete without the new heart.

    Hebrews 11:39-40. And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:

    God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

    Hebrews 8:10. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

    And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

    For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

    In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

    I hope someone can help us both as I am green in this study.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    Hi Karen.

    PG1

    The New covenant spoken of in Jeremiah 31:30 and Hebrews 8. Everthing in the old covenant and tabernacle was pointing to Christ. This new covenant was spoken of in Genisis Link and Link

    Romans 11:8. (According as it is written, GOD HATH GIVEN THEM THE SPIRIT OF SLUMBER, EYES THAT THE SHOULD NOT SEE, AND EARS THAT THEY SHOULD NOT HEAR;)UNTO THIS DAY.

    Romans 11:26-27. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

    ( For this is my COVENANT unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

    2nd Cor. 3:6-16. Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

    But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

    How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?

    For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

    For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.

    For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.

    Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:

    And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

    But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

    But even unto this day, when Moses is read, (THE VAIL IS UPON THEIR HEART.)

    Nevertheless when it (their hearts) shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
  • Richard in Christ on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    And there will be judgment upon all, and upon all the righteous.

    But for the righteous: He will make peace, and He will keep safe the Chosen, and mercy will be upon them. They will all belong to God, and will prosper and be blessed, and the light of God will shine on them.

    And behold! He comes with ten thousand Holy Ones; to execute judgment upon them and to destroy the impious, and to contend with all flesh concerning everything that the sinners and the impious have done and wrought against Him.

    And from there I went to another place, more terrible than this. And I saw a terrible thing: there was a great fire there, which burnt and blazed. And the place had a cleft reaching into the abyss, full of great pillars of fire, which were made to fall; neither its extent nor its size could I see, nor could I see its source.

    Then I said: "How terrible this place is, and how painful to look at!"

    Then Uriel, one of the Holy Angels, who was with me, answered me. He answered me and said to me: "Enoch, why do you have such fear and terror because of this terrible place, and before this pain?"

    And he said to me: "This place is the prison of the angels, and there they will be held for ever."

    Parallel to the great day of Judgement and the lake of fire in Revelation.
  • Carleton - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    Brethren in Christ Jesus, I have not read out of the Apocrypha for over twenty years, but I am remembering now that Judas Maccabee and his brothers were fighting against Roman rule when the Romans entered the Temple and desecrated it. The act (I think I remember correctly) was referred to as an abomination of desolation and the candlestick was put out.

    But God in his wisdom, I believe, re-lit that candlestick as a testimony and light and witness of his new covenant just inside the veil. The light of the Gospel and the veil torn from top to bottom is the hope of all whom will enter in.
  • Carleton - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    Greetings Karen and S Spencer. Some thoughts. Wondering if Isaiah Chapter 54 comes into play in these questions regarding chapter 56. Seems like in this chapter there is a church in the wilderness that is barren and ignored. God seems to promise her an inheritance in the Gentiles. God loves her and says to her that he is her Maker and her husband and his name is "thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called" verse 5. Verse 10 speaks of the "covenant of my peace" that is will not be removed because the Lord will have mercy on this church.

    So questions arise: Where does Israel come into play as the married wife? Was she put away? The covenant of my peace, is it not for born again believers that become the children of the church? The children of the old covenant because of the hardness of their hearts would not enter in and under His wings. The entrance to this new covenant for all, because all children are loved is the same for all; repentance and faith in Jesus Christ.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    Karen, may the SPIRIT grace you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    The BIG QUESTION? If you don't accept Christ in your physical life time are you cut off forever? Or go to hell?

    Most BELIEVE in this assumption.

    If the scriptures are studied as a whole and verses are not picked and apply in direct opposition to other verses we see a different truth than the above.

    The scriptures assert that THE WORKS OF GOD are divided into different ages or generations.

    So what's taking place in the age we are presently living in.

    Scripture says that God through Christ is CHOOSING a few to rule and judge in HIS KINGDOM and they with HIM will bring all creation INTO CHRIST.

    Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensations of the fullness of TIMES he might gather together in one ALL THINGS in CHRIST........

    Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature WAITETH for the manifestation of THE SONS OF GOD.

    Romans 8:21 Because the creature itself ALSO SHALL BE DELIVERED (by Christ and his elect).......

    Romans 11:30-31 For as ye in times past HAVE NOT BELIEVED GOD, yet have obtained mercy through THEIR UNBELIEF:

    (vs 31) Even so have these also NOT NOW believed, that through YOUR MERCY they also MAY OBTAIN MERCY.

    1 Corinthians 15:28 And when ALL THINGS shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, THAT GOD MAY BE ALL IN ALL.

    Luke 10:2 Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great; but the labourers (OF GOD'S WORKS) are FEW.....

    Matthew 20:16 many are called, FEW are chosen....

    Why are they called and not chosen; because they didn't BELIEVE WHAT GOD SAID.

    Yes they are saved; but want be a judge in the kingdom.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    Hi Karen.

    What scripture and verse are you referring to?

    There's brothers and sisters here that would love to help.

    Stay tuned, that is a great question and topic

    God bless
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    I'm not sure you even come close to answering Karen's question.

    Let's be polite and not step over her,

    Thank you
  • Best Way To Know Where we Go At Death - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    Some believe that while Jesus' body was in the tomb, His spirit was in hell.Scripture doesn't support that position when it is taken in context and we look at the meaning of the word "hell." In the Old Testament, the place of the dead or the place of departed souls was called "SHEOL." It was to this place that all souls of the dead went to await resurrection.

    In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The KJV translates the Greek word "hades" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. HADES had two separated parts: Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in ABRAHAMS BOSOM which was called "PARADISE" by the LORD Jesus Christ himself when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified ( Luke 23:42-43)

    For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment" ( 2 Peter 2:4). The word translated "HELL" here is not the Greek word "HADES" but is the Greek word "TARTARUS" meaning ABYSS or the lowest regions. This could very well be the "gulf" that was fixed between the PLACE OF TORMENT and Abraham's Bosom ( Luke 16:26).

    Wherefore He saith, When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fulfill all things" ( Ephesians 4:8-10). Leading captivity captive seems to refer to Jesus taking all those that waited in Paradise, to heaven to be with Him. The descending into the lower parts refers to Jesus mission of declaring Victory!
  • Karen Weber on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    is this referring to the New Covenantwhich Christ ratified with His own blood? Will the Jews that did not comprehend this born again status be in hell? Or do they ALL get a chance to repent from Christ's attunement till His Coming...
  • Patricia Pattain - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    What do lunch mean polluting the sabatti


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