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  • Alex Ochieng on Hebrews 5
    I love Jesus as my personal saviour
  • Ralston G McBeath on Hebrews 5
    Why do preachers persist in telling Gentile Congregations that everything that Jesus taught and said while He was on earth was directed to them? It clearly was not because He was talking to Jews under the law the whole time. No Gentile was allowed in to a synagogue. He was talking to Jews when he gave the Disciples the great commission. He told the disciples Matthew 10:5-6, not to go to the Gentiles. They were also called dogs by him as well as all Jews, (Ref. the caananite woman who asked for help). People are going to Hell because they are not being told the truth. The Apostle Paul called by Jesus. Plainly stated, that Gospel we are saved by is the one in 1Cor. 15:1-4 and stated in Galatians Ch. 1, that anybody that preached any other, Let him be accursed and that he got it by revelation from Jesus Himself. Jesus never preached any gospel but the Gospel of the Kingdom. He could not, because He had not been crucified yet. I know a lot of what He said was for our learning as Paul said, but He came here to fulfill the covenant promises , to be the King of the Jews AND to turn them into a nation of priests, who would then take salvation to the Gentiles. This failed because of the unbelief of his own people. Paul also stated in the bible that we, Jew and Gentile, would be judged by the righteous judge, according to his gospel, which was the Gospel of Grace (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). Why aren't people being told that? Again, people are filling pews every Sunday, thinking they are saved and are going to hell because they have not been told the truth. This is ALL in the book and preachers are not preaching it... WHY??? Don't tell me that the Apostle Paul has no standing because He was called by Jesus himself and wrote half the New Testament AFTER he spent three years in Arabia probably on Mount Sinai, getting a three year Revelation from Jesus, the same as the Disciples got from Him in person when He preached the Gospel of the Kingdom.
  • Lee Spencer on Hebrews 5:8
    What things did Jesus sufferwhereby he learned obedeince
  • TelePete on Hebrews 5
    Wheat is the forbidden fruit itself. It is the herb of the field. We will eat it in the sweat of our face because it causes Celiac Disease and a host of other autoimmune problems. Men were the hunters, woman the gatherers. Woman were the first to gather the seeds of wheat and then make bread which was then offered to the men. So it was. No one to blame. In sorry most continue to eat it all the days of their life, never realizing the cause of their intestinal demise. Hippocrates said, "all disease begins in the gut" and "let food be thy medicine." The hunters had it right.

    Eat meat, not wheat! They next chapter, the story of Cain and Abel will tell you the same. This was our fall from grace.
  • ERNEST ISTRE on Hebrews 5
    Who was melchisedes....
  • Chris - in Reply on Hebrews 5
    Melchizedek was a King of Salem (an old reference to a city that eventually became the position of modern Jerusalem) & a priest. In those early days, gentile kings often had the duty of being a priest as well to their people. Though he was a gentile (a Canaanite) but one of such standing & belief of the True God, that he was not only worthy of mention, but his lack of revealed ancestry, provided a picture of the eternal priesthood of Jesus (to which Hebrews ascribe).

    When you read the Genesis 14 account of Abraham & Melchizedek, we see that this king acknowledged Abraham returning from war & provided him & his men victuals to sustain them. In return, Abraham gave to him tithes (a tenth) of the spoils of war, thereby acknowledging his position & help given & the blessing of God upon him for doing this for God's servant. Ordinarily, such a gentile would not have been given much attention & respect, but Melchizedek was a different character in many ways.
  • Marilyn T on Hebrews 5
    Glad that this chapter explained the difference between a "babe and a mature Christian." Often when one becomes a New

    Christian, some believe that they should know everything about God at once. Some want them to stop doing, going or wearing

    what they did prior to accepting Christ. It can be a gradual step just like a Baby. They should not be abused or casted down

    because they do not immediately act as Mature Christians. Just as it takes a Baby time to develop , so does it take time for

    Baby Christian. There hearts will be convicted as they walk with God. Be careful how you speak to them. They will learn by

    your good example of being a Mature Christian.
  • Gicheru Geoffrey Mwangi on Hebrews 5:14
    Sin is what makes us die for as one sins one gets used to sin and is addicted reason we envy,jealous and eventually kill another,oppress another because you have the power to do so;death is not God's intention for us but when we get to know that reality we no longer babes but mature spirit driven knowing the good and bad subconsciously,during this Covid-19 novelty God Jehova wants human beings to know something about His power,not our power.
  • Stephende - in Reply on Hebrews 5
    Remember in the desert how El Shaddai took Moses aside and told him, when the Priest following Korah were immolated and others swallowed whole into Sheol, that He would decimate these rebels and make a people of Moses. And God was willing to destroy them with a plague. Moses interceded and stayed El Shaddai. He would talk to the people and bring them in line. Today a plague, which have no doubt comes from God and threatens to destroy en masse. This is from El Shaddai for our iniquities!!! Righteousness have devolved into partisan bickering. The Truth is elusive and facts are contorted to fit our leader's agenda!!. Evangelicals are largely responsible in that they were willing to compromise their values in order to facilitate their anti choice agenda, their anti personal freedom agenda. So they made a deal with Satan, that got their inarguably evil leader in place. So, this is what we have. Historically bad leadership on an historically bad plague. We as American's are laughing stock, while evangelicals pray to a Jesus that wouldn't return to earth from the sky with heralding angels to save anyone from this pandemic!
  • Brianna vs 7 on Hebrews 5
    Jesus set the pattern for us in learning how to endure. In vs. 7 Jesus relied on his heavenly father " with strong crying & tears" to help him endure his death on a torture stake. Jesus never broke his integrity to his father Jehovah, and the results" He was heard". So many of us are experiencing many trials right now as a result of the global pandemic 2020. It may feel like we are enduring a torture stake of our own. However, let us call out to God as Jesus did, in prayer. With tears and supplication if need be. If we remain loyal to God in word and deed, he will hear our cries for help just as he heard Jesus. Stay strong everybody!
  • Thomas Packer on Hebrews 5
    In my heart my understanding of the first few verses harkens to how we can facilitate love and forgiveness more powerfully through the humility of seeing the shortcomings in ourselves, which also compels us to be compassionate to ourselves as well as others. It strikes me that our faith in God becomes a stronger part us through this practice of love with truth and goodness duty for existence path
  • Teri on Hebrews 5
    This short chapter shows that some things are just harder to understand! "Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and them that are out of the way for that he himself is also compassed with infirmity. see verse 2
  • Fred Scanlan - in Reply on Hebrews 5
    An earthly priest is a shepherd unto Gods children.A good shepherd, will lead his sheep so that they will learn what is the good path , a good shepherd will know how to do this because he understands the dangers that surround him and His flock.His infirmities like the sheep are the same. The shepherd called, are a priest unto a high priest, who is Christ. Their is no priest between the sheep and the shepherd, only the high priest ,Jesus Christ.
  • Steve on Hebrews 5
    Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffers,says Paul of Melchisidec, who was a High Priest, as was Jesus, chosen by God, as was Jesus to offer sacrifice for sin, his and others."Oh no! Jesus had no sin" To be born into flesh is sin, in that we automatically assume differentiation from God, but there is atonement, and mercy thru tears, praying for forgiveness,
  • Cindy - in Reply on Hebrews 5
    I am confused by your comment. Are you denying the deity of Christ? Jesus was not just a man who was anointed by God. He is God in the flesh. Sin is passed down through man. Jesus was born of a virgin, therefore, he had no sin. We are born into sin because we are conceived by the seed of a human man. Before Abraham was I AM. Jesus existed before us. It is clear in scripture
  • Joey - in Reply on Hebrews 5
    Jesus had no sin and being born is not sin, David even says he was born in sin like being born into a pool. That scripture also must be taken in context because David was talking to God about the sin he did and he basically was like I was born into this, I was shaped in immoral behavior the flesh Psalms 51: 5 "Behold, I was shapen in iniquity and in sin did my mother conceive me."
  • A disciple on Hebrews 5
    What did Jesus ever do to provoke the hypocrites? He exposed their hypocrisy! And why not even from out of yourselves, do you not judge what is right? If you're about to be hauled before the Judge, don't you want to do everything to cooperate and seek lenience? Or when He has frankly forgiven you everything, BECAUSE you had nothing to pay; do you look for some fellow servant to take by the throat?
  • A disciple on Hebrews 5
    Yes, Steve, Nowhere! When the Lord taught the crowds He used parables; (short stories that are told for to making moral and spiritual points); which every man hearing could in his integrity of heart and fear of God receive good and well as it was ever intended when God spoke it to him. Likewise when a man has no place for faith or fear of God, he cannot hear what's plainly spoken; but hardens.
  • Dewey J on Hebrews 5
    Servant.. many religious experts believe so I don't believe they are the same and I am convinced I have the Holy Ghost. Matthew Henry said in his abridged commentary that referring to Melchizedek having no parents, no begaining or ending of days refers to no documentation of his history. Christophanies and Theophanies Christ pre-incarnate appearances are not easily understood but few Deut: 29, 29.
  • Eutychus on Hebrews 5
    "For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God;" The 'oracles of God' is another way of saying, the Word of God. We can spend a lifetime in church, and still be terribly ignorant of God's Word. And God's word, unknown, can do little to teach us truth. We must make it a part of ourselves, by study and prayer
  • Servant of God on Hebrews 5
    Not that there hasn't been Spirit beings walking the earth. Enoch, Elijah, Isaiah, Moses, Melchisidek, Jesus. All served God with whole heart, and mind, and being. It is possible for anyone or why did God write his law and testimonies thru his Prophets. In fact we are constructed in His image, in that we are Spirit filled beings, if one were to reflect upon this truth. It is God's will this.
  • BettyG on Hebrews 5
    To Lou: I like your comment; sounds like you PRAY before you speak ...................
  • Lou on Hebrews 5
    I'm not out to ruffle feathers, carefully go over Genesis 14, Psalms 110, Heb. chapt.5-7. Jesus, and Melchizedek are....one in the same. There's only one eternal High Priest of God, and King of Peace (Salem). He has boundless authority over time, and space, He created them. Melchizedek, who brought out bread and wine, had no beginning, or end of days, was not here to save us all quite yet, (just Abram).
  • A disciple on Hebrews 5
    To everyone; We cannot ignore or dismiss all the multitudes of Scriptures which say plainly that the Anointed, the Christ, IS THE SON OF GOD COME IN THE FLESH; because of one or two MIS-interpreted sayings that are wrenched out of context to force a meaning never intended...i.e.; that Jesus is somehow less than He says He is. He that is of the Truth WILL hear His Voice; and will not hear strangers
  • Servant of God on Hebrews 5
    Who was Paul referring to in verse 5-7? Jesus or Melchisidek? Who with strong crying and supplication was heard of God? Paul is not clear but the point is that they both were high priests, appointed as was Aaron to perform ritual sacrifice. Jesus was the High Priest of our profession for his obedience toward God,in that he suffered crucifiction in order to demonstrate eternal life in God. Amen
  • A disciple on Hebrews 5
    servant; when Jesus said that to the young rich man, He was exposing and rebuking the empty flattering titles used to "butter-up" and ask for an audience. He was not saying that He isn't God; but for the kid to sober up and be true in his character. Look at the rest of the scenario: the issue was NOT "if Jesus is the Son of God;" but the shallowness of the love of this world, and its ruin of men.
  • Servant of God on Hebrews 5
    Disciple, Hesus when asked of one,"Good master, How shall I obtain the Kingdom? Jesus answered,"Why callest me good? There is none good but God alone." Jesus read the Bible, just as I do. Bit by bit, precept by precept, here a little, there a little. I do no agree with Mega Churches or Bible belters. Their doctrine is serving, justifying all sorts of vile inequity. Jesus will not approve
  • ALEX on Hebrews 5
    The divinity of Christ was b/c he was an absolute Son, not a token son like Adam but an Absolute Son,It was God his father that said that everything has to MULTIPLY, after its kind and christ was the multiplication of God, I will make him my 1st born etc and I shall be unto him a father and he shall be unto me a son, Their relationship was like Abraham and Isaac.Two distinct beings but 1 spirit.
  • A disciple on Hebrews 5
    servant; Jesus' divinity was not "granted" to Him because of His obedience! That is a heathen doctrine which started from the devil, saying, that Jesus is a created being! Jesus is God from everlasting to everlasting, and was with the Father before the world was; "Before Abraham was I AM." For our sake, as the Anointed Saviour of the world; the Father additionally glorified Him for His obedience.
  • Sevant of God on Hebrews 5
    Disciple, Jesus agonized in the garden for sure knowing his death was imminent! He was in all ways human as well as divine. His divinity was granted to him by his complete obedience to God. This was his greatest test and though sorrowful facing death he had faith that God was wirh him and would guide him as He had done heretofore. Jesus was alone on the cross for 9 hours with criminals.......

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