Hebrews Chapter 5 Discussion Page 2



 
  • Gicheru Geoffrey Mwangi on Hebrews 5:14 - 3 years ago
    Sin is what makes us die for as one sins one gets used to sin and is addicted reason we envy,jealous and eventually kill another,oppress another because you have the power to do so;death is not God's intention for us but when we get to know that reality we no longer babes but mature spirit driven knowing the good and bad subconsciously,during this Covid-19 novelty God Jehova wants human beings to know something about His power,not our power.
  • Brianna vs 7 on Hebrews 5 - 3 years ago
    Jesus set the pattern for us in learning how to endure. In vs. 7 Jesus relied on his heavenly father " with strong crying & tears" to help him endure his death on a torture stake. Jesus never broke his integrity to his father Jehovah, and the results" He was heard". So many of us are experiencing many trials right now as a result of the global pandemic 2020. It may feel like we are enduring a torture stake of our own. However, let us call out to God as Jesus did, in prayer. With tears and supplication if need be. If we remain loyal to God in word and deed, he will hear our cries for help just as he heard Jesus. Stay strong everybody!
  • Fred Scanlan - In Reply on Hebrews 5 - 4 years ago
    An earthly priest is a shepherd unto Gods children.A good shepherd, will lead his sheep so that they will learn what is the good path , a good shepherd will know how to do this because he understands the dangers that surround him and His flock.His infirmities like the sheep are the same. The shepherd called, are a priest unto a high priest, who is Christ. Their is no priest between the sheep and the shepherd, only the high priest ,Jesus Christ.
  • Cindy - In Reply on Hebrews 5 - 4 years ago
    I am confused by your comment. Are you denying the deity of Christ? Jesus was not just a man who was anointed by God. He is God in the flesh. Sin is passed down through man. Jesus was born of a virgin, therefore, he had no sin. We are born into sin because we are conceived by the seed of a human man. Before Abraham was I AM. Jesus existed before us. It is clear in scripture
  • Thomas Packer on Hebrews 5 - 4 years ago
    In my heart my understanding of the first few verses harkens to how we can facilitate love and forgiveness more powerfully through the humility of seeing the shortcomings in ourselves, which also compels us to be compassionate to ourselves as well as others. It strikes me that our faith in God becomes a stronger part us through this practice of love with truth and goodness duty for existence path
  • Joey - In Reply on Hebrews 5 - 4 years ago
    Jesus had no sin and being born is not sin, David even says he was born in sin like being born into a pool. That scripture also must be taken in context because David was talking to God about the sin he did and he basically was like I was born into this, I was shaped in immoral behavior the flesh Psalms 51: 5 "Behold, I was shapen in iniquity and in sin did my mother conceive me."
  • Sharon Lawless - In Reply on Hebrews 5 - 4 years ago
    Matthew 26:39 Matthew 26:42 Galatians 3:13-14
  • Ibrahim - In Reply on Hebrews 5 - 4 years ago
    Thanks a lot for your response, however, I would like to bring to understanding that that's not what Jesus prayed for, Jesus prayed to God to save him from death, he didn't want to drink from the cup of suffering and his prayers were hard. Why would God punish Jesus for our sins, what wrong did he commit to deserve such a punishment. The bible says anyone put to death on a pole is cursed Gal 3:13
  • Sharon Lawless - In Reply on Hebrews 5 - 4 years ago
    Jesus prayed for "God's will" to be done, not his own. And it was answered, God's will was that Jesus die on the Cross in order to be our substitute, our savior. Jesus was made to taste death, that all who accept Jesus as their Savior may live.
  • Teri on Hebrews 5 - 4 years ago
    This short chapter shows that some things are just harder to understand! "Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and them that are out of the way for that he himself is also compassed with infirmity. see verse 2
  • Steve on Hebrews 5 - 5 years ago
    Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffers,says Paul of Melchisidec, who was a High Priest, as was Jesus, chosen by God, as was Jesus to offer sacrifice for sin, his and others."Oh no! Jesus had no sin" To be born into flesh is sin, in that we automatically assume differentiation from God, but there is atonement, and mercy thru tears, praying for forgiveness,
  • A disciple on Hebrews 5 - 5 years ago
    What did Jesus ever do to provoke the hypocrites? He exposed their hypocrisy! And why not even from out of yourselves, do you not judge what is right? If you're about to be hauled before the Judge, don't you want to do everything to cooperate and seek lenience? Or when He has frankly forgiven you everything, BECAUSE you had nothing to pay; do you look for some fellow servant to take by the throat?
  • A disciple on Hebrews 5 - 5 years ago
    Yes, Steve, Nowhere! When the Lord taught the crowds He used parables; (short stories that are told for to making moral and spiritual points); which every man hearing could in his integrity of heart and fear of God receive good and well as it was ever intended when God spoke it to him. Likewise when a man has no place for faith or fear of God, he cannot hear what's plainly spoken; but hardens.
  • Dewey J on Hebrews 5 - 6 years ago
    Servant.. many religious experts believe so I don't believe they are the same and I am convinced I have the Holy Ghost. Matthew Henry said in his abridged commentary that referring to Melchizedek having no parents, no begaining or ending of days refers to no documentation of his history. Christophanies and Theophanies Christ pre-incarnate appearances are not easily understood but few Deut: 29, 29.
  • Eutychus on Hebrews 5 - 6 years ago
    "For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God;" The 'oracles of God' is another way of saying, the Word of God. We can spend a lifetime in church, and still be terribly ignorant of God's Word. And God's word, unknown, can do little to teach us truth. We must make it a part of ourselves, by study and prayer
  • Servant of God on Hebrews 5 - 6 years ago
    Not that there hasn't been Spirit beings walking the earth. Enoch, Elijah, Isaiah, Moses, Melchisidek, Jesus. All served God with whole heart, and mind, and being. It is possible for anyone or why did God write his law and testimonies thru his Prophets. In fact we are constructed in His image, in that we are Spirit filled beings, if one were to reflect upon this truth. It is God's will this.
  • BettyG on Hebrews 5 - 6 years ago
    To Lou: I like your comment; sounds like you PRAY before you speak ...................
  • Lou on Hebrews 5 - 6 years ago
    I'm not out to ruffle feathers, carefully go over Gen.14, Psa.110, Heb. chapt.5-7. Jesus, and Melchizedek are....one in the same. There's only one eternal High Priest of God, and King of Peace (Salem). He has boundless authority over time, and space, He created them. Melchizedek, who brought out bread and wine, had no beginning, or end of days, was not here to save us all quite yet, (just Abram).
  • A disciple on Hebrews 5 - 6 years ago
    To everyone; We cannot ignore or dismiss all the multitudes of Scriptures which say plainly that the Anointed, the Christ, IS THE SON OF GOD COME IN THE FLESH; because of one or two MIS-interpreted sayings that are wrenched out of context to force a meaning never intended...i.e.; that Jesus is somehow less than He says He is. He that is of the Truth WILL hear His Voice; and will not hear strangers
  • Servant of God on Hebrews 5 - 6 years ago
    Who was Paul referring to in verse 5-7? Jesus or Melchisidek? Who with strong crying and supplication was heard of God? Paul is not clear but the point is that they both were high priests, appointed as was Aaron to perform ritual sacrifice. Jesus was the High Priest of our profession for his obedience toward God,in that he suffered crucifiction in order to demonstrate eternal life in God. Amen
  • A disciple on Hebrews 5 - 6 years ago
    servant; when Jesus said that to the young rich man, He was exposing and rebuking the empty flattering titles used to "butter-up" and ask for an audience. He was not saying that He isn't God; but for the kid to sober up and be true in his character. Look at the rest of the scenario: the issue was NOT "if Jesus is the Son of God;" but the shallowness of the love of this world, and its ruin of men.
  • Servant of God on Hebrews 5 - 6 years ago
    Disciple, Hesus when asked of one,"Good master, How shall I obtain the Kingdom? Jesus answered,"Why callest me good? There is none good but God alone." Jesus read the Bible, just as I do. Bit by bit, precept by precept, here a little, there a little. I do no agree with Mega Churches or Bible belters. Their doctrine is serving, justifying all sorts of vile inequity. Jesus will not approve
  • ALEX on Hebrews 5 - 6 years ago
    The divinity of Christ was b/c he was an absolute Son, not a token son like Adam but an Absolute Son,It was God his father that said that everything has to MULTIPLY, after its kind and christ was the multiplication of God, I will make him my 1st born etc and I shall be unto him a father and he shall be unto me a son, Their relationship was like Abraham and Isaac.Two distinct beings but 1 spirit.
  • A disciple on Hebrews 5 - 6 years ago
    servant; Jesus' divinity was not "granted" to Him because of His obedience! That is a heathen doctrine which started from the devil, saying, that Jesus is a created being! Jesus is God from everlasting to everlasting, and was with the Father before the world was; "Before Abraham was I AM." For our sake, as the Anointed Saviour of the world; the Father additionally glorified Him for His obedience.
  • Sevant of God on Hebrews 5 - 6 years ago
    Disciple, Jesus agonized in the garden for sure knowing his death was imminent! He was in all ways human as well as divine. His divinity was granted to him by his complete obedience to God. This was his greatest test and though sorrowful facing death he had faith that God was wirh him and would guide him as He had done heretofore. Jesus was alone on the cross for 9 hours with criminals.......
  • Charles Bonsu on Hebrews 5 - 6 years ago
    Amen.
  • A disciple on Hebrews 5 - 6 years ago
    Cheryl; The reference to Melchizedek was for the type, of being [apparently] without natural descent; i.e. eternal. The Lord Jesus is the One who agonized in the Garden of Gethsemane, taking upon Himself the unimaginable horror of the world's guilt, as our Substitute; until His sweat was as it were "great drops of blood falling to the ground."
  • Carolyn Rowe on Hebrews 5 - 6 years ago
    Wendell, It was Melchisedec who offered weeping and tears. The chapter is comparing Jesus with Melchisedec in the role of high Priest. God always hears the prayers of the faithful, but He does what is necessary in any situation. There is a difference between being in the flesh and Jesus being made flesh to pay for man's sins. The Bible helps us to understand His masterplan.
  • BSP on Hebrews 5 - 6 years ago
    Verses 12 and 13: We could be taking in spiritual food but still not be healthy in the faith. We need to go beyond the elementary things and take in solid spiritual food.
  • Wendell Bonin on Hebrews 5 - 6 years ago
    Is the translation correct because i think it was melchisedec that offered the strong weeping and tears because the father always heard jesus and then a little further it mentions that this is the doctrine. Jesus was never in the"flesh"


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