Hebrews Chapter 3 Discussion



 
  • T Levis - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 1 year ago
    Matthew 24, Mark 13, 1Thessalonians 4, 2Thessalonians 2,
  • Rick Colombe on Hebrews 3 - 1 year ago
    I'm in agreement with many of Mishaels comments except her stand on a "rapture". I believe there will be a great "caught up"

    At the end of this age as we know it. At the final trump of God when our Lord Jesus returns. Please be careful with posting things that are based on opinion rather than God's Word. May God keep us strong and true to His word.
  • Richard H Priday on Hebrews 3 - 1 year ago
    This chapter; for example in verse 6 shows the importance of enduring until the end. Verse 12 asks us to take heed in case an evil heart has us depart from God. Perseverance until the end is repeated in verse 14; with the example o Israel in the desert being largely rejected in verse 15 once again hammering home the theme of this chapter.

    This isn't exactly "politically correct" in reformed circles; or anywhere else for that matter (for those who always want encouraging scripture verses; for instance who we will keep anonymous). First of all; "assurance of salvation" isn't relying on "fire insurance" to keep us out of hell; and if we are elect and chosen then indeed we will heed the warnings. We need to comprehend through the indwelling Holy Spirit the hopelessness of our state; which should only be magnified after we are truly "Born Again". This almost mystic one time salvation prayer certainly can't be relied on to bring a foreign righteousness alien to our own human nature if there is no transformation of our hearts. Our society which once found it expedient to have a "Judeo-Christian" moral code has no interest in a "form of godliness denying the power thereof" ( 2 Tim. 3:5). Those who are tares will never endure to the end; and those lukewarm likewise will be stripped of any viable testimony with our whole society at such an advanced state of sinful decline ripe for judgment.

    The other issue is that even among apparently doctrinally sound churches today there is little dogmatic preaching on the reality of hell. When you hear the gospel being proclaimed it is nice although rare hearing those who are emphatic about what they are saved from; which often intersects with those who are not warning if the Tribulation wrath and sufferings coming after the Rapture. When we study about Christ our living Head ( Colossians 1:18) and we see how they tried to kill him 10 times before His death as well as the Apostles we see the expected result of Godly lives
  • Mishael - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 2 years ago
    JOHN

    14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man [Jesus] be lifted up: [by the Church]

    15 That WHOSOEVER believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

    16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in him should NOT perish, but have everlasting life.

    17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him MIGHT BE SAVED.

    Saved from what? From the End of Earth.

    2 Peter 4____see, it's not global warming. It is the earth ramping up for the End of Days. We can't save the earth. Jesus is returning soon, and somehow the earth knows that.

    Search Box: signs of the end

    Evangelize your loved ones and friends.
  • T Levis - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 2 years ago
    Donna,

    Please keep reading the WORD.

    Here's some scriptures about what your Pastor said

    2Timothy 3:1-9, 2Timothy 3:12-17, 2Peter 3:3-14, Revelation 2, Revelation 9,

    Scripture about the Church

    1John 2:15-29, Genesis 49:1,8,9,10,11,12,18, Micah 4:1, Isaiah 2:2, Acts 2:17, Hebrews 10,

    1Corinthians 6:2-3, Colossians 1:18,24

    Don't worry: Philippians 4:6-8,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Mishael - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 2 years ago
    Word search on these phrases on this website SEARCH BOX:

    Caught Up

    IN THE CLOUDS

    Left behind

    One will be taken

    Watch some Nelson Walters videos on YouTube
  • Glenn - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 2 years ago
    Jesus, while walking the earth, only approved of two of the 7 churches he came across !!! An I'll be kind here ,.. if he walked today ,. It be zero !!! Church has absolutely nothing, to do with saving,.. they can't even save themselves,..

    peace
  • Charles Robert Northup - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 2 years ago
    You can be saved after you die that's why it says preach the gospel, not go save and why death is called sleep. God's wrath purpose is to make every knee bowel and every tongue confess and what we are saved from. We are the church, us together not a place or a building. Now you will have to suffer God's wrath and not deny Christ to be saved if you die lost, think about all who died before Christ ever came and it says Jesus went and preached to them after he was crucified 1 Peter 3:19By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

    20Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
  • Donna - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 2 years ago
    Wait a minute. What??? Where is the church going? When will the church be gone?

    Please, I haven't any recollection of reading this. Where do I find this info in the Bible?

    My old pastor(BTW, please pray for him) used to say that in the end times the world would be like a huge witches Coven Full of darkness and evil like nobody has ever seen before.
  • Antonio James on Hebrews 3 - 2 years ago
    will anybody be able to besave after the church is gone
  • Michael - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 2 years ago
    " Hebrews 8:13 "In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away."

    (Christians are not under the Old Covenant or Testament but under the New Covenant or Testament. The book of Malachi is under the Old Covenant or Testament.)

    Luke 22:20 "Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you."

    (Jesus set up or inaugurated the New Covenant or Testament with his shed blood. The laws governing that New Covenant or New Testament and recorded in the letters written to the first-century Church. The Apostle Paul or any other Apostle, in all their letters, never instructed the first-century Church to tithe - not once.)

    2 Corinthians 9:7 "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver."

    (The Apostle Paul sets the standard for giving under the New Covenant or Testament - "as he purposes in his heart" - in other words, whatever a person decides to give is his personal choice.)

    1 Corinthians 16:2 "Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come."

    (The Apostle Paul says "as God has prospered him". He never mentions an obligatory tithe.)
  • Pat - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 2 years ago
    My brother the tithing system is not done away with. In Malachi it states can I man rob God. yes in tithes and offering. God also states if we return said he will open the windows of heaven and pour blessings on us. What a promise only if we are faithful will we receive this blessings.
  • D W L - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 2 years ago
    If JESUS says to do something we better do it ( If you love me keep my word - commandants)

    Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! (for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin), and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done (judgment, mercy, and faith), and not to leave the other undone (judgment, mercy, and faith). So yes Jesus said pay tithe, On the cross he said it is finished, can't add or take away. He has spoken to us by his word we should heed his word not wait to see if we feel like it.
  • Fred Scanlan - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 2 years ago
    Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

    But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

    And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

    Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

    That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

    And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

    This opportunity as a servant of Christ, is unequal to anything that exists in heaven or earth! The power of God rests on those who's mind is in Him! Jesus the Christ! This power rises above all principalities and powers in heaven and earth, conquering the future! Even eternal life!
  • MARK J EDENS on Hebrews 3 - 2 years ago
    This chapter truely shows the falsehood of beleiving in the "once saved always saved" doctrine that is taught by so many false religions. once your saved that's it!! no, notice the tiny word "if" in this chapter and throughout the entire bible. john calvin was very wrong!
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 2 years ago
    Phillip.

    Thanks for that wonderful declaration of Hope!! It sheds more light on the scripture when it's defined properly.

    God bless you.
  • Philip Christian Parks on Hebrews 3 - 2 years ago
    "the Hope"; v.6 = Do not apply modern definitions and applications concerning hope from the human perspective (e.g. Ac. 27:20; 1Thes. 4:13) to that DIVINE Hope which GOD instills within believers.

    Man bases his hope on using his intelligence and personal abilities to manipulate his environmental resources to bring into reality that which he desires based on chance, possibility, and probability (cp. Ac. 16:19; 27:20). Man often attributes "hope" to the vain superstitions of fate or luck.

    In contrast, DIVINE Spiritual Hope is a sure, yet future reality for which saints wait with eager anticipation because GOD has promised and guarantees its fulfillment.

    Hope includes DIVINE, guaranteed realities such as

    + Righteousness ( Gal. 5:5),

    + Eternal Life ( Tit. 1:2; 3:7),

    + our Resurrection from the dead (Ac. 23:6; 24:15; 1Pet. 1:3),

    + our future home in Heaven ( Col. 1:5), and

    + our expectation of the blessed eschatological event of CHRIST's Second Coming (1Thes. 2:19; Tit. 2:13).

    GOD is The SOURCE of the saint's hope for HE is "The GOD of hope" ( Rom. 15:13). LORD JESUS CHRIST personifies hope for HE is

    + "our HOPE" ( 1Tim. 1:1),

    + "the HOPE of Glory" ( Col. 1:27), and

    + "that Blessed HOPE" for WHOM the saints "look for the Glorious Appearing of The Great GOD and our SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST" ( Tit. 2:13).

    The expectation of the sure reality of hope fulfilled in and through LORD JESUS CHRIST encourages the saints and Church to patiently persevere with "hope firm unto the end" ( Heb. 3:6; 6:11; 1Pet. 1:13).
  • Richard in Christ on Hebrews 3 - 3 years ago
    As no one person is exactly the same as another. Just as well there is many different beliefs to interpreting the Scriptures. Which is said to have no private interpretation. ( 2 Peter 1:20-21.

    As this has been discussed before I will put my portion. I do not say Jesus Christ is God the Father. He is the only begotten Son of God. Though He was more than just a "sinless" man. He was part man part God. Born of a virgin who was conceived by the Holy Ghost ( Matthew 1:20, Luke 1:30-35. Even at age twelve He astonished people who heard Him. He knew God was His Father then Luke 2:47-49. To me showing He did not just receive the Holy Ghost(Spirit of God) at His water baptism in the Jordan. If the sign of the Spirit descending from Heaven like a dove was for just a sign for John or for His supernatural powers only God knows. John 1:32-34.

    If some think that believing Jesus Christ is more that just a man is taking something away from the Father. God wants us to honor His Son as He is the only way to the Father. Scriptures pointing to Him being more than "just" a man John 3:12-13, John 3:33-35, John 3:38, John 8:54-58, John 17:3-5, Colossians 1:12-20, Hebrews 1:1-4.

    Also titles Jesus Christ, the Son of God, uses like Alpha and Omega(first and last) in the beginning of Revelation. The Lamb of God, Jesus Christ, being King of kings and Lord of Lords Revelation 17:14. Also the Word of God and King of kings and Lord of lords given to the man riding the white horse out of Heaven. I believe is Jesus Christ.

    Besides all of the miracles He performed. Him being transfigured on the mountain Matthew 17:2.

    There is one True Holy Living Almighty God. Saying the Father, Word, and Holy Ghost are one. Also as how many verses I have that state the Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of God, and the Holy Ghost are in us after being saved. To me showing Jesus Christ is the Word of God and one with God and the Holy Ghost.

    Praise be to our Lord Jesus Christ and our Father in Heaven.
  • Read the bible - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 3 years ago
    Tithing was the Old Testament system and no longer valid . We do not sacrifice animals to God either . Jesus ended the whole system and now is at Gods right hand always for us !

    That's awesome he intercedes on our behalf , no need to pay Levite's for priestly work .

    But giving is always a good thing to to , do it wisely and be blessed .
  • Read the bible on Hebrews 3 - 3 years ago
    I'm glad to see there are others not ashamed of the truth .

    That Jesus is the Son of God .

    Anything else and it's not the Jesus of the bible .
  • Jesse - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 3 years ago
    Jacqueline,

    There were 12 Original apostles, but many disciples. A disciple is a follower of Christ. There were and are many, many disciples, but no more apostles. An apostle was someone who was chosen specifically by Jesus and functioned as an ambassador of God. An apostle was somebody who was sent out on a commission.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 3 years ago
    Jeffrey,

    I sat under the ministry of a pastor who never asked for money and never even passed a collection basket around during the service. Giving money was not important to him. But people still gave, and there was a reason why they gave. It wasn't out of obligation. What was important to him was that people were being ministered to, being fed!

    In fact, he would tell those in his congregation that "If you're not being fed here, please go somewhere where you will be fed. To him, it wasn't important that they were there. What was important to him was that they were being fed. That was most important, that a person was being fed spiritually.

    Now, ask yourself, are you being fed where you fellowship? If so, maybe your perspective on giving back might change.

    I think it is important to support those in ministry, especially those who feed us. We should also feed them.

    If the Lord puts it on your heart to give, then give. If He's not leading you to do so, don't!
  • Jeffrey Watson on Hebrews 3 - 3 years ago
    Tithes and offering I have a problem with giving offerings to preachers is it wrong
  • Jacqueline Hughesd on Hebrews 3 - 3 years ago
    Why were there only 12 deciples?

    And why were they men except the marys
  • Star on Hebrews 3 - 3 years ago
    are you born of water & the Spirit? This is part of the gospel to obeidence. We can not live for the Lord on our own.
  • Mona on Hebrews 3 - 3 years ago
    Good Morning,

    Can anyone tell me what are the differences in comparing Matthews and Marks recording of the last Supper except for in Matthews Judas asking if he is the betrayer?

    Other than that I believe the stories are the same but some of the wording is slightly different.
  • Fred Scanlan on Hebrews 3 - 3 years ago
    In the last days, many shall be deceived, the enemy will be those of your own household! That would be anyone, even ones wife! It is unfortunate that in your desire to enrich yourself, you have destroyed anything that is good! Sin has a way , not unlike the tranquilizer. The booze, it infects your soul! What would it profit if a man gain the whole world and loose His soul! How difficult it is to forgive! Only the Christ, Only the Christ!
  • Signs of The End of This Age - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 3 years ago
    Luke 21:11 There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.

    Luke 21:20 When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies (Syria, Iran, Russia, China) you will know that its desolation is near.

    Luke 21:24-28 They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the TIMES Of The Gentiles ARE FULFILLED

    25 "There will be SIGNS in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea.

    26 People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken.

    27 At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your REDEMPTION is drawing near.

    32 "Truly I tell you, THIS GENERATION will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.

    33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but MY WORDS will never pass away.

    34 "Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you suddenly like a trap.

    35 For it will come on all those who live on the face of the whole earth.

    36 Be always on the WATCH and PRAY that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man (Jesus). Be born again now. John 3

    2 PETER

    3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue* as they were from the beginning of the creation.

    9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should REPENT.
  • Chris - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 3 years ago
    If you're thinking about the present pandemic & the 'harsh' regulations imposed upon us as preventative measures for its spread, then I think of Leviticus chapter 13. This was God's direction to Israel on how to deal with leprosy, & in the midst of all the verbage in this chapter, verses 45 & 46 indicate that a leper would have to cover his mouth (i.e. wear a mask), declare himself unclean to all around (i.e. maintain separation from others = 'social distancing'), & will have to live outside the camp (i.e. be in quarantine). This was the prescribed way to remove something that was contagious from the proximity of others, so as to preserve another's life & deal with the disease or plague. If he recovered from the leprae, he was brought back into society, if not, he died a miserable & lonely death outside without loved ones (if he had any) around him.

    But if, from your question, you're thinking of the spiritual & moral depravity of mankind, then I would find in 2 Timothy 3:1-7 a very telling list of the present condition of the human heart. And please take note, that this speaks to not just those who overtly demonstrate such behaviour, but that from the root of sin, we all have that ability & sometimes, desire, to behave in such manner - whether by kings, presidents, prime ministers right down the line to the feeble, inconspicuous individual or one totally obscure in poverty. The heart of man is indeed "deceitful above else & desperately wicked", but most today shun the invitation of the Gospel to have the Blood of Christ & the Power of His Spirit transform them.
  • Fred Scanlan - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 3 years ago
    The scripture is directly relative to your faith. Many who are new in the faith, will not know as much as others. This is true mostly with everything we study to do. To say, which part is more applicable to you or me, would be a matter of interpretation. This is why we need to study to show thyself approved, in all things that pertain to godliness! Christ is the faith we need to understand the sign of the times! He will show you, and bring all things to remembrance that He has told you! How, I wish with todays technology, I could know that you are hearing me! Not only you but all people I speak with on the I.T.. At least Paul could send Timothy, or Silvanus to proof their faith! The media has become very sophisticated, and growing together in fellowship , we then might consul one another in these last days. I say that the word cannot have free course as a ship in the ocean! I pray that He will find a way, to make all things possible. Even the saving of mans soul!


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