Hebrews Chapter 13 Discussion



 
  • Chris - in Reply on Hebrews 13
    I believe you're looking at Hebrews 13:13 Manyele; "Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach."

    As you may know, the Letter to the Hebrews was written mainly for the Jews who turned away from Judaism & towards Christ. So we get many references to Jewish beliefs & practises, showing to these new believers how Jesus fulfilled the Scriptures & was God's perfect Sacrifice for them & all mankind. And here in Hebrews 13, we get another glimpse to this in verses 10 to 15.

    As in the old days of sacrificing animals on the altar for the sins of the people, the Hebrews writer here speaks of the special sacrifice that was made on the Day of Atonement. On that day, the bullock & goat were sacrificed on the altar but only their blood was used for sprinkling on the Mercy Seat & horns of the Altar; the flesh of these animals were not eaten as in some other sacrifices, but were taken far away from the Tabernacle & their carcases burnt. You can read about this part in Leviticus chapter 16.

    So in Hebrews 13, the writer states, that as the burnt offering was then taken outside the camp for complete burning, so too Jesus fulfilled this great Act of Atonement when He too was crucified outside Jerusalem, at Golgotha. And His Blood that was shed there, was pleasing to His Father (as was required with the animals' blood in the Tabernacle), showing that only through His Son's Blood & faith in His Sacrifice, would God accept those who come to Him.

    Therefore, knowing what Christ did for us, & that there can be no fence-sitters or those looking at Jesus from afar (as Peter did in Matthew 26:58), the Hebrews writer urges the believers' complete identification & faithfulness to Jesus by joining Him 'outside the camp' - and if we do so, we too might suffer hatred as He did and we must do so gladly, for "here we have no continuing city, but we seek one to come"; that is, our citizenship is in Heaven. May we live this life with such a sure hope ( Philippians 3:20).
  • Free - in Reply on Hebrews 13
    Hi dear "Manyele wilson", in this letter it is possible that it was Paul or/and Barnabas who wrote. Paul knows we had great revelations. And he struggled always a lot with the Jews because they wanted to hold on to their legal deeds in which they were brought up. So it seems like that's what's coming out here.

    The only worthy Sacrificial Lamb is and remains Jesus Christ forever and ever.

    There will never be anything else that was worthy of God the Father Himself.

    He loves us. With Eternal Love.

    We have so much to be thankful for!

    Ephesians 3:8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;

    9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

    10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

    11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

    Stay blessed in His Holy Name Jesus Christ, love u all.
  • Manyele wilson on Hebrews 13
    To go outside to jesus what does it mean? Kindly elaborate more at length .
  • BSP on Hebrews 13
    Verse 5-we want to develop contentment and be thankful for everything that we have. This will lead to a happier life.
  • Debbie - in Reply on Hebrews 13
    Thank you Sacha. Yes I understood what you are saying. And that makes perfect sense. God Bless
  • Sacha - in Reply on Hebrews 13
    Hi Debbie , I truly believe that we can be angels to each other , whenever we help any one , but especially when we help another Christian , we are as angels , ministering God's love and kindness to others , let's say , as an example , you don't have any food in your house and no means to get any , there's a knock at your door and it's a member of your Church , she says she has been baking pies and thought you might like one and she gives you a lovely pie .She is an angel to you ,and you recieving that pie are allowing her to do you a good turn which is a good thing for her also . Sorry if that's not very clear ! Some one once asked me if I would by them a sandwich , it was a complete stranger to me , I did so , that makes me an angel to them but maybe they were the angel , sent by God to find out if I am a good Christian who practices what I preach . I hope you can get my meaning .
  • Debbie Nelson on Hebrews 13
    Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

    Is this verse speaking of angels that could be in a form of a person that you may help or they help you?
  • Keith Spears on Hebrews 13
    Does the Bible talk about ufo
  • Gecko - in Reply on Hebrews 13:4
    Paul had no problem with his eyes. That lie came from lost and confused theologians. He wrote a large letter by his own hand because he loved them. Usually, he would dictate a letter to a scribe wrote it down. He also testified of their love for him by saying that they would also pluck out their eyes and give them to him. You can read about his thorn in the flesh in 2 cor 11:23-30

    "Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft. Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one. Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep; in journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; in weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness. Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches. Who is weak, and I am not weak? who is offended, and I burn not? If I must needs glory, I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities."

    So please, I beseech you to come away from these reprobate theologians who wallow in the mire of their own filth and folly. You will never know God through theology.
  • Ronnie on Hebrews 13:20
    Amen Thank You Our Father Amen
  • James Futch - in Reply on Hebrews 13:4
    Thank you
  • Chris - in Reply on Hebrews 13:4
    We don't know anything about him, except that he was the Apostle Paul's scribe for this letter to the Roman believers. Paul often had others to write for him, as we suppose, he had some problems with his eyes. See Galatians 6:11, where he himself writes to them in large, bold letters (rather than a lengthy letter).
  • James Futch on Hebrews 13:4
    Who was Tertius?
  • Tim - in Reply on Hebrews 13:17
    I know I have read this about our leaders will act as children but I can't find it now. Can you point it out for me please. Thanks
  • Katie Lynn Smith on Hebrews 13:4
    Would there happen to be an audible version or a virtual bible study group for young woman around the age of 24 years old
  • Mild Bill on Hebrews 13:12
    Norman Walker Butch, Genesis7:9 plainly states that as Noah and his family, were in the ark, the animals came to him, two by two. God brought to the ark those to be saved.
  • Geraldine Messina on Hebrews 13:12
    what does it mean to ''suffer with out the gate''? And are there other references to a gate that are the same etymology as in this verse?
  • Geraldine Messina on Hebrews 13:12
    what does it mean to ''suffer with out the gate''? And are there other references to a gate that are the same etymology as in this verse?
  • Mishael - in Reply on Hebrews 13:16
    Bible Commentary for Hebrews 13:17

    Wesley's Notes for Hebrews

    13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you - The word implies also, that lead or guide you; namely, in truth and holiness. And submit yourselves - Give up (not your conscience or judgment, but) your own will, in all things purely indifferent. For they watch over your souls - With all zeal and diligence, they guard and caution you against all danger. As they that must give account - To the great Shepherd, for every part of their behaviour toward you. How vigilant then ought every pastor to be! How careful of every soul committed to his charge! That they may do this - Watch over you. With joy and not with groans - He is not a good shepherd, who does not either rejoice over them, or groan for them. The groans of other creatures are heard: how much more shall these come up in the ears of God ! Whoever answers this character of a Christian pastor may undoubtedly demand this obedience.

    People's Bible Notes for Hebrews 13:17

    Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you. Your elders or bishops. For they watch for your souls. Give them deference on this account, and because they must give account to the Master of those committed to their trust.

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  • Joycelynlilkomar on Hebrews 13:16
    I like to know more about Hebrew 13 17
  • Stanjett - in Reply on Hebrews 13:17
    Satan, was an angel, and he transformed into a snake. Most angels look just like us.
  • Angels - in Reply on Hebrews 13:17
    Go to the top Search Box, and type: angels. It's a lot to read. Angels are real. They report to God. You may ask God for angelic assistance?

    They are also called: ministering spirits.
  • Patty Roe - in Reply on Hebrews 13:17
    Entertaining angels unaware? Can that be any life form, physical, spiritual, animal, mineral, vegetable?
  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO - in Reply on Hebrews 13:17
    Russell Rose on Hebrews 13:17. In Titus 3:1 and Romans 13:1 we are told to be good citizens. However, that doesn't mean we have to tolerate tyranny. God has given us the ability to govern. In the US, for example, men, guided by God and Biblical principles, put that ability to work and developed the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. As long as the people in charge of government implement its precepts properly, we ought to form a part of it, support the government and work to improve it.

    However, when governments, and that also applies to churches and other organizations, depart from those principles, it is up to us to point it out, speak up and rectify it. See Nehemiah 9:27 and Esther 4:14. Christ worked within the established Roman and religious rules in Israel. However, He also pointed out the contradictions that existed within the religious order of the Jews. Christ wasn't a revolutionary, because He came with a Mission. His Mission was not Social Reform. His Mission was the total defeat and annihilation of death, corruption, evil, pain, suffering and idolatry (exalting other things in place of God).
  • Margie Smith on Hebrews 13:17
    What is the meaning of Psalms 27
  • Tiant Williams on Hebrews 13
    I referred to 2 Timothy 2:15

    15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

    Many will come in his name to teach us divers and strange doctrines putting first they own law, but if we study daily then we will know when we are with the right shepherd which God will be well pleased
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Hebrews 13:17
    If the leaders demand we disobey a command of the Lord we are to disobey them. Example the Hebrew midwives at the time of Moses commanded the male children be killed and they disobeyed him as recorded in

    Exodus Chapter 1:15 And the king of Egypt spake to the Hebrew midwives, of which the name of the one was Shiphrah, and the name of the other Puah:

    16 And he said, When ye do the office of a midwife to the Hebrew women, and see them upon the stools; if it be a son, then ye shall kill him: but if it be a daughter, then she shall live.

    17 But the midwives feared God, and did not as the king of Egypt commanded them, but saved the men children alive.

    18 And the king of Egypt called for the midwives, and said unto them, Why have ye done this thing, and have saved the men children alive?

    19 And the midwives said unto Pharaoh, Because the Hebrew women [are] not as the Egyptian women; for they [are] lively, and are delivered ere the midwives come in unto them.

    20 Therefore God dealt well with the midwives: and the people multiplied, and waxed very mighty.

    21 And it came to pass, because the midwives feared God, that he made them houses.

    22 And Pharaoh charged all his people, saying, Every son that is born ye shall cast into the river, and every daughter ye shall save alive.

    Yet in Hebrews 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

    Rome was evil and Yet Jesus said to pay their taxes as an example to us:

    Matthew 22:17 Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute (Taxes) unto Caesar, or not?

    19 Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny.

    20 ... Whose image is this?..

    Matthew 22:21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
  • Russell Rose on Hebrews 13:17
    Where does it tell us to obey our government in the Bible and where does it tell us to disregard our government and follow the word of God?
  • Chris - in Reply on Hebrews 13:7
    Timothy, Bob has given excellent examples showing our first obedience is to the Lord in all things & as part of that obedience we are obey our governments, only if they don't demand that we deny Him in any way. Many through the ages withstood such govts. (think of the various Empires we've seen in history & to which (a type) all on Earth will one day be subject to), & those who disobeyed because of their faith & love for God, were executed. Fortunately, our govts. have not resorted to this, treating everyone 'fairly', but it won't be like this when the Anti-Christ reigns.

    However, your point I see is, do we even have God-fearing leaders, & if we do, are they challenging the wicked legislations in place (which include homosexuality, abortion, wilful murder, & anything contrary to God's Word)? As you know, some are doing something in this regard, but if they are to be leaders with a voice, they know they cannot overstep the bounds set by their political party, or out they go. So really, the status quo is that good leaders have not really made too much of a difference. Who then do we obey? This really has to be a personal decision, according to the dictates of one's conscience.

    For me, I refuse to vote, as to me it means hypocrisy (as it is, I have to be on guard over some weak areas in my life - I don't need to add another to it). I still obey the laws of the land, but my vote can't go to any person or party that dishonours God. We will never get a perfect govt, I know, but I believe as Christians we should expect God-honouring laws from people that fear God (& not man), that God may indeed bless our lands. The U.S & most other countries suffer greatly because of wickedness in 'high places'. Can we expect the blessings from God? What do we get instead from govts.? Laws that generally meet people's expectations, regardless of their correctness, so that the majority vote may be garnered when needed.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Hebrews 13:7
    Greetings Timothy If the leaders demand we disobey a command of the Lord we are to disobey them. Example the Hebrew midwives at the time of Moses commanded the male children be killed and they disobeyed him as recorded in

    Exodus Chapter 1:15 And the king of Egypt spake to the Hebrew midwives, of which the name of the one was Shiphrah, and the name of the other Puah:

    16 And he said, When ye do the office of a midwife to the Hebrew women, and see them upon the stools; if it be a son, then ye shall kill him: but if it be a daughter, then she shall live.

    17 But the midwives feared God, and did not as the king of Egypt commanded them, but saved the men children alive.

    18 And the king of Egypt called for the midwives, and said unto them, Why have ye done this thing, and have saved the men children alive?

    19 And the midwives said unto Pharaoh, Because the Hebrew women [are] not as the Egyptian women; for they [are] lively, and are delivered ere the midwives come in unto them.

    20 Therefore God dealt well with the midwives: and the people multiplied, and waxed very mighty.

    21 And it came to pass, because the midwives feared God, that he made them houses.

    22 And Pharaoh charged all his people, saying, Every son that is born ye shall cast into the river, and every daughter ye shall save alive.

    Yet in Hebrews 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

    Rome was evil and Yet Jesus said to pay their taxes as an example to us:

    Matthew 22:17 Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute (Taxes) unto Caesar, or not?

    19 Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny.

    20 ... Whose image is this?..

    Matthew 22:21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.


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