Habakkuk Chapter 2 Discussion



 
  • Jack on Habakkuk 2:17
    No Jew believes in Jesus, and they can't keep the Law. They all are lost today, is that right?
  • Use This Website SEARCH BOX - in Reply on Habakkuk 2:17
    Do not judge.

    There will come a TIME when the scales come off their eyes, and ears opened to see and hear THE TRUTH; the GOSPEL.

    Word SEARCH .. Scales
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on Habakkuk 2:17
    Hello,

    As I know a lot of people use this today, one jot of a verse, to keep others from telling them what is right and wrong. I definitely believe in not condemning anyone as only God knows who exactly shall be saved in the end. Though we must speak the truth to help lead others to the Lord.

    With judging, right from wrong, it is taught to not judge as a hypocrite. Clean up yourself before going out and showing others right from wrong. Using righteous judgement.

    Here are just a couple verses I will leave.

    I think I know who I am replying to but I'm not sure. Please do not take anything I said the wrong way. It is from the heart.

    Zechariah 8:16.

    Matthew 7:2.

    Matthew 7:3-5.

    John 7:24.

    (1 Corinthians 6:2-3

    God Bless.
  • Adam - in Reply on Habakkuk 2:17
    Hello, I assume you mean Judaism- they don't believe Jesus has come yet. If you mean Jew the race then of course a % are Christians and a % are atheists and believe whatever else. Anyone who doesn't believe in and genuinely follow Jesus Christ is lost.
  • Callum Ahab on Habakkuk 2:17
    Who invaded Lebanon? Israel/Judah or the Babylonians?
  • Callum Ahab - in Reply on Habakkuk 2:17
    Habakkuk 2:7-17

    In more detail:

    Chapter 2 from verse 2 onwards is framed as The Lord's Answer to Habakkuk.

    I have read various commentaries but am still confused by this passage. Does it refer to Babylon or Jerusalem? The commentaries all to seem to casually assumed that it is Babylon that is being referred to. The words of the Lord begin by referring to Babylon in the third person. Then from verse 7 the second person is used.

    Given that the Lord has just explained in the previous chapter that he going to raise up Babylon as a weapon against Jerusalem - it would make sense that 2:7-17 is an explanation of why and that therefore it is Jeruasalem that is going to receive a drubbing. And indeed that turns out to be the case:

    Habakkuk prophesied in the southern kingdom of Judah at some time around the battle of Carchemish (605 BC). This battle, which resulted in the total defeat of the Egyptian armies, marked the end of any serious resistance to the Babylonian advances in the region. It was not long before Judah found herself under threat from Babylon - a threat that would lead to an attack on Jerusalem and partial deportation of its inhabitants in 597 BC, and a final onslaught in 588, eventually leading to the fall of the city and deportation of most of its population in 586 BC. The text of the book itself does not allow us to date the prophecy with any great precision.

    McGrath, Alister. NIV Bible Handbook . John Murray Press. Kindle Edition.

    So why the assumption that the Lord was referring to Babylon in 2:7-17?
  • Patty Tozi on Habakkuk 2:9
    God is King right now. You will know Him and His Son before this virus is over. The world will end all of a sudden. Where will you be? The Light of God will Brighten the Darkness that is playing mind games with the world's way of people. Watch..Be Ready...
  • M - in Reply on Habakkuk 2:9
    Deuteronomy 18:21-22 might be what you're looking for.
  • Alex on Habakkuk 2:9
    Comments by Alex about Solomon meaning Comforter in Hebrew . In 2 nd Samuel 12 : 24 David wanted to COMFORT bathsheba and went in to lay with her and she bear a son and called his NAME SOLOMON Which means COMFORTER IN HEBREW . And Jesus also refers to the H.G. AS THE COMFORTER SEVERAL TIMES . SOLOMON was the 3 rd person of the Davidic kingdom just as the H.G. is the 3 rd person in the heavenly Kingdom. Nathan told David that a very special son wd come out of his loins that wd reign over the house of Israel forever. WHICH WAS SOLOMON, it was prohetic that a very special son wd come out of the loins of CHRIST which is the H.G. the COMFORTER, When Jesus breathe on them the H.G. came out of his loins ( his seed ) which was his breath his living WORD , his breath was his WORD his good seed. That impregnated them ,b/c i have spoken these words sorrows have filled you hearts a spritual pregnancy. Her child is the H.G. the COMFORTER..........Steven ya need to study a bit k gb
  • Steven Spencer - in Reply on Habakkuk 2:9
    Man of Peace

    Origin. Word/name. Hebrew. Meaning. "Man of Peace". anyway and where you look it up its man of peace. easy to find the Hebrew. Thanks
  • Karlene edwards on Habakkuk 2:9
    1 Chronicles 20:5

    "And there was war again with the Philistines; and Elhanan the son of Jair slew Lahmi the brother of Goliath the Gittite, whose spear staff was like a weaver's beam."
  • Rickey Nichols on Habakkuk 2:9
    I see people on TV that say they are prophets of GOD how do we tell who is the true prophet and who is a lying prophet
  • Chris - in Reply on Habakkuk 2:9
    Deuteronomy 18:21,22: "And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken

    When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him."

    This was part of the many instructions & warnings that God gave to Israel through Moses & it was very important for them to be aware of this evil which they would witness in their journeyings & when they finally settled in their allocated territories. God spoke to His people through His leaders, like Moses & also through His prophets. Even till the formation of the Church after Christ's resurrection, there were prophetical utterances & I believe these largely ceased after the Word of God was completed which revealed God's Mind to us, His Church. I don't say that no one now has not the gift of Prophecy, but I've never heard anything resembling it, rather simply an affirmation of what is already declared (this is not prophecy, but preaching or exhortation from the Word).

    Yet, prophets abound: the cults all have one as their founder (& their prophets have failed) & even now amongst believers, we will get some prophetical utterance about the future. After the recent U.S elections, these prophets were all busy making great claims of God's speaking directly to them about the future outcome of the elections & other prophecies. I will let you discern of what sort these people were & the claims they made. I don't believe we have anything left to be revealed after the closure of the Scriptures. We can observe world events & see prophecies in the Word being fulfilled, but has there been anything new to come out that even aligns with the revealed Word? I may have missed it, but I don't think so.

    So don't be troubled by what you see on TV, etc. There will always be those who will make many claims - search the Word of God to establish yourself.
  • Rod - in Reply on Habakkuk 2:9
    This is why it is so important to read our bible KJV on a daily basis, starting with the NT, because when we read the bible, it brings forth a message of mercy, love, joy, peace, longsuffering, and so on, these are the fruits of the Spirit, this is some of the messaging that you should hear when listening to anyone, let alone a so called prophet, if you don't, don't follow him. not promoting anyone, but I like to listen to Billy Graham on y tube on a regular basis, he was a man that would quote scripture and then go on to explain it in a very simple way. Galatians chapter 5 is a good read where Paul explains the fruits of the flesh and the fruits of the Spirit, that should help answer your question, but read the entire NT. I hope this helps you in your journey

    1 John 4:1 "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."

    Galatians 5:17 "For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would."
  • Steven Spencer - in Reply on Habakkuk 2:9
    Hebrews 1:1-2 (KJV) God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake "IN TIME PAST" unto the fathers by the prophets,

    Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
  • M - in Reply on Habakkuk 2:9
    What they say should line up with what the bible says. If they speak against the word of God then they aren't of God. There are false prophets, and to know the difference between the 2 you need to know God's word.
  • Rick Mentzer - in Reply on Habakkuk 2:9
    Read romans chapter 1 whole chapter than go to genisis and read about sodom and gomorah, you'll get the idea not good and yet you be into that and get saved born again and change by Gods grace amazing.
  • M - in Reply on Habakkuk 2:9
    "From the beginning of creation, God made them male and female. For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh" (Mark 10:6-8, quoting Genesis 2:24).

    "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet." (Romans 1:26-27)
  • Jody Buckley on Habakkuk 2:9
    On what day does it take to enter a baby body
  • The Soul of the Unborn - in Reply on Habakkuk 2:9
    I'm not sure just what you are asking. If it is about human conception and when the soul enters the unborn child's body? These are some scriptures. To me it looks like when the ovum and the sperm meet.

    Psalm 139

    13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.

    14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.

    15 My substance was NOT hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.

    16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and IN THY BOOK, all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.

    17 How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them!

    Psalms Chapter 127

    3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb IS HIS REWARD.

    Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, [and] I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

    Matthew 18:10

    Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.

    Matthew 18:14. Even so IT IS NOT the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish (die).

    Job 12:10. In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind.

    Ezekiel 18:4

    Behold, all souls are MINE, as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

    If this isn't helpful, write back again.

    Mishael
  • Joyce Ellis on Habakkuk 2
    Verse 2. Write the vision and make it plain. Please help me understand this verse.
  • Chris - in Reply on Habakkuk 2
    God's prophets, as Habakkuk was, received God's Messages to them or for the people in various ways. Here we see that Habakkuk received a vision (i.e. it wasn't in a dream, but a vivid portrayal of what was to come before his eyes). He was instructed to not just regurgitate the vision by word to others but he was to write it down on tables (or, tablets which could be of hardy material such as stone or wood), & to write it legibly (i.e. using clear large characters), so that those reading it may read it correctly & become so disturbed & horrified by this prophecy, that they go in haste to proclaim this news.

    And verse 3 is important: this prophecy was yet to be fulfilled at a much later time but when that time arrives, it would be fulfilled to the letter. And even if might seem a long time in being fulfilled, the command was to be patient & wait for it, as what the Lord ordains will happen. And of course, the prophecy was given because of Judah's many sins & idolatrous ways, resulting in the forthcoming captivity by Nebuchadnezzar's invasion & taking them prisoners to Babylon. Even similar prophecies have been given from time to time as God always sends out His warning by the prophets to His people. But the people never change & so they suffered greatly under His Hand.
  • MICHAEL KERR on Habakkuk 2
    Personal vision : Sign of the Serpent in the sky 09/2040. possible Apocalypse then, not as yet (end of 2020).
  • LISA HINES on Habakkuk 2
    Woe to him that sinned against his soul. Repent and pray for forgiveness and turn from your evil ways. Our God is merciful as long as you are sincere. Thou are full of shame for glory. Turn that shame around by being obedient to the commandments and to helping others. Pray always in give thanks to God in the name of Jesus Christ because living in the flesh is challenging because the devil comes to steal, kill and destroy so always pray, pray and pray amen!!!!!!
  • Butch - in Reply on Habakkuk 2:3
    You must be baptized, Jesus said he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved

    Read acts chapter 2, acts chapter 8, acts chapter 10, acts chapter 19, they were all baptized in the name of Jesus.
  • Ashley Warner - in Reply on Habakkuk 2:3
    Always trust jesus as your saver and father
  • Chris - in Reply on Habakkuk 2:3
    It was special to read that you have turned to Jesus Christ coming out of Islam. I had spent much time with dear Muslim folk whilst serving in Pakistan so when I hear that God's Spirit has brought you Light & understanding of the Truth, my heart rejoices. Yes, the Bible, God's Word is an amazing Book. Not just for its historical value but, as you're finding out, for its living Words out of the Mouth of God that cuts deep into our hearts & exposes us for who we really are. And yet, it gives us the way out of our predicament - through His Word made flesh (Kalimat'ullah).

    I would love to hear your testimony bringing you to salvation. Baptism, is an outward demonstration of an inward change, just as the Lord's Supper shows a visible acknowledgement of Christ's Sacrifice in one's life. Baptism visibly shows you personally & those who witness the baptism that you have come out of religion, out of vain philosophies/imaginings, & now cleaving to the Son of God Who alone could save you from your sins & give you a new life & a new future, when once upon a time, you only hoped that your good deeds outweighed the bad. Every sin, any sin, is detestable to a Holy God & since 'something dirty cannot clean itself', it took Someone pure & holy to step in to do it for us. And that is what faith in Christ is: trusting God through Jesus to forgive us of our sin because of what He has done & nothing that we could do.

    If you're connected to a Bible believing, Christ-centred Fellowship, do talk with your Pastor/Elder about this matter of baptism. It is the first step in a Christian's walk as it will always give you that confirmation of what took place spiritually in your life (1 Peter 3:21). I sense you have many things to ask, so feel free to do so here, so that you may know more of the Bible & God's Plan for your life. May God bless you as you seek to understand more from His Holy Word.
  • Josef exmuslim - in Reply on Habakkuk 2:3
    he is all the way for me

    he been watching me from childhood till teenages till i became a man

    he saw me fighting extrimists as a teenager

    he saw me being abused as a child when a teacher asked me to show them the islamist prayer.

    he saw me feeding the homeless and donating to the hospitals while being called stupid for it.

    he saw me defending on the weak and standing for the right .

    my sins according to christianity is when i did look at a woman with lust before and when i lied too , i disciplined myself over that and still handeling myself.

    muslims always got abuse even at the mosque and i saw that evil because it shall be considered a peaceful religion and i did not find peace , even when i criticize them i get horrible consequences .

    but jesus been watching that and decided to do not let me athiest and came to show up to me two days ago .

    made me searching for the truth and his holy spirite , even then i found the bible fits with me and through the bible i shall rebuild my soul .
  • Chris - in Reply on Habakkuk 2:3
    Page 2.

    (these) are just some of the beliefs & practises that are NOT found in Scripture. So Josef, please be warned about joining such a Church that is in opposition to the Bible & teachings of Christ. I've only given the above points briefly, but if you need more information, then I can expand on them.

    I read through your testimony of what you had been through as a younger person & even your help to the needy & defending the weak. All beautiful traits in a person that I'm sure God has brought you through or allowed you to suffer, to the point now of revealing His Son Jesus Christ to you in the vision. The Apostle Paul, who was formerly Saul a strict religious leader, also encountered Jesus whilst travelling to find & kill those Jews who had turned from Judaism to Christ. (See this in Acts chapter 9). That man was mightily changed by Jesus while travelling on a road & had to unlearn many things from Judaism & to learn many new things from Christ. So Josef, your exuberance for Christ & Bible reading, is a joy to read about, but you also need a good understanding & grasp of what you are reading & not persuaded by other voices. So ask the Holy Spirit's help to understand & you know that you're always welcome here to ask us also. Some of us are quite aged now having walked with the Lord for many years, proving His Word & His Spirit in our lives ever since we were born again of God's Spirit. Even though we aren't perfect in our knowledge, we can still guide you in looking at God, His Son & Spirit and the various doctrines & teachings in the Bible, with greater clarity & understanding. Walk carefully, brother & hope you receive God's Help in your higher studies. Blessings.
  • Chris - in Reply on Habakkuk 2:3
    Page 1.

    Hi Josef. Thank you for your comments. What I will write now may be a little difficult for you to appreciate but it is necessary for your guidance, I feel.

    When a Muslim thinks of a Church, he generally sees a building that is visible & usually it's a large ornate building with a steeple, cross & stained glass windows. But there are other smaller Church buildings, or none at all, that are not seen. Before discussing the Roman Catholic Church, the Bible speaks of the Church as essentially being Christ's Body & not a building made of stones or bricks. This means the Church (Greek: ekklesia) is a gathering, or body of Christians - it is not a building. Jesus said in Matthew 16:18, "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it". Jesus was telling Peter that "upon this rock" (i.e. upon Peter's great confession in verse 16), Christ would build His Church (not a building, but a body of believers coming from many lands & out of many religions).

    I gather that you are in proximity to a Roman Catholic Church (RC) as you wrote about the music & chanting. Some things can be appealing but if you're drawn to RCs, then you should be aware that much of what they believe & do is not according to the Bible. Much could be said here, but to itemize those errors briefly: their prayer to idols & to saints, worship to Mary, burning or waving incense (as prayers offered to God), the Eucharist that turns into the Body & Blood of Christ, one is not baptized into Christ but into the Church (i.e. belonging to an RC Church is what gives you salvation along with faith in Jesus), faith alone cannot save you - good works are needed also, the Apocryphal books are used giving rise to strange teaching, baptism given to a child is true & valid, & for all, sprinkling, not immersion in water, is practised, the Pope is infallible & is Christ's representative on Earth, - go to page 2.


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