Genesis Chapter 6 Discussion



 
  • Philip Christian Parks on Genesis 6:2
    Of Gen. 6:2; "they (angels) took them (daughters) wives of all which they chose" =

    Scriptures reveal angels may take on human form:

    + In Genesis 18:1-8, The LORD and two holy angels visited Abraham and Sarah in the form of "three men" in human bodies. During that visit, these angels conversed and ate with Abraham in the same manner as would human men.

    + Two of these angels in human form proceeded to visit Lot in Sodom ( Gen. 19). While there, the Sodomites mistook these angels as actual human men and attempted to physically sodomize them ( Gen. 19:5).

    + At least two angels appeared as "young men" ( Mk. 16:5) after LORD JESUS' Resurrection wearing "shining garments" (Lu. 24:4).

    + While the disciples strained to see the final glimpses of The LORD's Ascension into Heaven, "two men {? angels?} stood by them in white apparel", and promised CHRIST's Second Coming "in like manner as ye have seen HIM go into Heaven" ( Ac. 1:10-11).

    Because angels are immortal and not subject to death, they have no need to procreate lawfully through marriage as do humans (cp Mt. 22:30; Mk. 12:25).

    Yet, these angels assumed human form and married, co-habitated, and bore children through human "daughters of men" (v.2).
  • EPHESIANS 6 COMMENTARIES from This Website - in Reply on Genesis 6:2
    Wesley's Notes for Ephesians 6:12

    For our wrestling is not only, not chiefly, against flesh and blood - Weak men, or fleshly appetites. But against principalities, against powers - The mighty princes of all the infernal legions. And great is their power, and that likewise of those legions whom they command. Against the rulers of the world - Perhaps these principalities and powers remain mostly in the citadel of their kingdom of darkness. But there are other evil spirits who range abroad, to whom the provinces of the world are committed. Of the darkness - This is chiefly spiritual darkness. Of this age - Which prevails during the present state of things. Against wicked spirits - Who continually oppose faith, love, holiness, either by force or fraud; and labour to infuse unbelief, pride, idolatry malice, envy, anger, hatred. In heavenly places - Which were ONCE their abode, and which they still aspire to, as far as they are permitted.

    People's Bible Notes for Eph. 6:12

    For we wrestle. Fights then were a hand to hand grapple. Not against flesh and blood. While flesh and blood may seem to assail us, the real enemies are evil spiritual powers. Against principalities, against powers. These terms designate different rank of evil spirits. These were fallen angels (see Ro 8:38). The same terms are applied to the different ranks of holy angels in Eph 1:21. Against the rulers of the darkness of this world. Satan is described as the ruler of this world (Joh 12:31 14:30 16:11) and the god of this world ( 2Co 4:4). He uses for his dominion not only evil spirits, but wicked men, and his sway is darkness rather than light. Against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. "Spiritual [hosts] of wickedness" (Revised Version). It is likely that the meaning is the same as in Eph 2:2 The high places, the air, is a dwelling place and medium of these evil influences.

    THEY HAVE TO BORROW A BODY, by a humans permission; at risk of losing their soul.
  • Glenn - in Reply on Genesis 6:2
    Nobody can lose there soul , unless God takes them , Ezekiel 18 / 4. God owns ALL souls ,.. even the evil ones,..
  • Mishael - in Reply on Genesis 6:2
    Job 1:6 - Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

    Isaiah 14:12-15 - How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

    Ezekiel 28:14 - Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Ezekiel 28:15 - Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

    Ezekiel 28:16 - By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

    Luke 10:18 - And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

    Revelation 12:9 - And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

    John 8:44 - Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

    Hebrews 2:14 - Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of DEATH, that is, the devil;

    LEGALLY, because Jesus (2nd Adam) WON back the Authority FROM SATAN that First Adam lost in the Garden of Eden.

    Jesus, by the Holy Spirit, was conceived becoming the SON OF MAN. All God, all HUMAN.

    Satan and Demons are NOT HUMAN. They borrow bodies: dogs, frogs and witches who lend their bodies.

    CAREFULLY READ EPHESIANS 6
  • Glenn - in Reply on Genesis 6:2
    Hence, the geber ,.. ( giants ) the fallen angels, created a total mess ,. Trying to mess up Gods plan ,.. mixing a spiritual body with a flesh body,. I cannot even imagine the pain those women went threw giving birth ,..

    peace
  • Philip Christian Parks on Genesis 6:2
    Of Gen. 6:2 =

    Besides here, the Old Testament uses the expression "the sons of GOD" to identify supernatural angelic beings:

    1st, Job 1:6-7 describes "sons of GOD" presenting "themselves before The LORD." Note that "Satan (the supreme demonic angelic principality) came also among them."

    2nd, Job 38:7 records JEHOVAH asking Job

    "[4] Where wast thou [7] When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of GOD shouted for joy?"

    Here, both expressions, "morning stars" and "sons of GOD" identify supernatural angels reacting to GOD's wondrous Creative Power.

    The Old Testament does not use this expression to refer to believing saints except for the possible exception of Hosea 1:10: "In the place where it was said unto them (Israel), Ye are not MY people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of The Living GOD." The LORD, through HIS prophet Hosea, prophetically promised Israel a restoration far into the future.

    Moreover, the designation "men" translates from the Hebrew noun "adam" (Eng. transliteration; pronounced "aw-DAWM"). Scriptures record the term "adam" (aprox. 529 times) to refer to all mankind (generically), both male and female, as the highest created species of living creatures (e.g. Gen. 1:26): "GOD said, Let US make man (Heb. "adam") in OUR IMAGE, after OUR Likeness."

    Therefore, these "daughters of men" are the human female offspring of human fathers and mothers. Certain demonic angels saw these "daughters" as physically attractive ("fair"). Their "fairness" spawned unholy desires within these wanton angels who looked upon them, and desired them as objects solely for fulfilling their lusts.
  • Philip Christian Parks on Genesis 6:2
    The theory that the "sons of GOD" are the GODly sons of Seth's lineage while the "daughters of men" are the GOD rejecting daughters of Cain's descendants proves baseless and erroneous.

    Consider the following points of argument:

    > Seth's male descendants were not all inherently righteous by default, simply because Seth was their forefather.

    > From the silence of Scriptures, Bible students cannot assume all of Cain's descendants were evil and rebellious.

    > A marriage between the descendant males of Seth and the female descendants of Cain would not automatically guarantee an offspring of giants. If this were true, all "unequally yoked" ( 2Cor. 6:14) parents, if one is an unbeliever while the other is a believer, would produce grotesque hybrid giants.

    > If Seth's male offspring were inherently righteous enough to deserve the title "sons of GOD", then this demands answers to many questions:

    ? Why is Noah solely and singularly described as "a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with GOD" ( Gen. 6:9; cp. 7:1)?

    ? Why weren't any others of Seth in the Ark besides Noah, a descendant of Seth? Must we assume Noah was Seth's only and final righteous offspring?

    ? Did their marrying an unbeliever forfeit GOD's Mercy and abandon them to die with the rest of the wicked as The LORD de-creed ( Gen. 6:7)? The LORD would not do so according to HIS Promises to Abraham concerning Lot's safety in Sodom. Six times The LORD promised Abraham, "I will spare all the place for their (the righteous) sakes" (see Gen. 18:26-32).

    This theory implies that if Seth's male descendants were truly "sons of GOD", then they all, without exception, had to sin so grievously as to lose this title. So much for the Doctrine of Eternal Security.

    > Bible students commit hermeneutical malpractice to assume the "daughters of men (Heb. "adam")" was restricted to the female descendants of Cain. Such interpretation comes from prejudice and bias which The LORD prohibits (cp. Lev. 19:15).
  • Mishael - in Reply on Genesis 6:2
    Jesus's Geneology came through Seth's lineage.

    God protected the lineage of Jesus all the way to Bethlehem.

    By saying what you have alleged, you show yourself to be a heretic.

    I rebuke you in the Name of Jesus, by Dominion and by the authority of Jesus Christ.

    Amen.
  • Truth prevails - in Reply on Genesis 6:2
    First you must know Jesus the son of God or consider your vain prayers an insult to God .
  • Glenn - in Reply on Genesis 6:2
    Noah , an his family were the only ones to not mingle with the fallen angels
  • Neville Stewart on Genesis 6
    What is meant by "the sons of God saw the daughters of men"?
  • Ronald L Whittemore - in Reply on Genesis 6
    Neville Stewart

    There are two primary views on the identity of the sons of God and daughters of men. They were godly descendants of Seth intermarrying with wicked descendants of Cain. The major support for this interpretation is Genesis chapter 4 describes the ungodly generations of Cain, and 5 is the godly Seth line and the righteous line of Seth.

    Cain and Seth are both descendants of Adam and Eve so if the descendants of Cain's daughters were fair, so the daughters of Seth would also be fair so, godly vs ungodly would have to be the difference. Nowhere in scripture are the descendants of Seth called "the sons of God", but more as an adoption, "shall be my son" as Solomon and us today, who receive Jesus and are led by the Spirit of God are the sons/ daughters of God. ( 1 Chronicles 17:13) ( 2 Corinthians 6:18)

    The other view is angels who left their first estate and mated with women. Angels are called sons of God in Job, ( Job 1:6) ( Job 2:1) ( Job 38:7). Some say angels can not mate because of what Jesus said in ( Matthew 22:29-30). But all through scripture angels take on human form, they eat and drink and if they left their first estate it is possible. Scripture does not give a lot about this; we have 1656 years from Adam to the flood in only 7 chapters of Genesis.

    Scripture tells us there are devils, demons, and fallen angels but these angels are different they are locked in chains of darkness in the bottomless pit until judgment. ( 2 Peter 2:4) ( Jude 1: 6). The bottomless pit comes up in Revelation, another study.

    Also mentioned are giants/ Nephilim/ Rephaim "in those days; and also after that", before and after the flood. Whether these were offspring of angels' scripture does not tell us. The description in scripture is clear these are not just tall people. ( 2 Samuel 21:16) ( Joshua 12:4) ( Numbers 13:33) ( Deuteronomy 20:17) ( Deuteronomy 2:19-21) ( Amos 2:9).

    This is just a small amount of information, maybe it will get you started in your study.

    RLW
  • Neville Stewart - in Reply on Genesis 6
    Thanks for the views on this issue.
  • Sally on Genesis 6:4
    Genesis 6:4

    "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

    mystery to me.

    my theory is they were human and they had never sinned and they didn't live in the garden and they were created when adam was created. But eve was the only one created from adam's rib. we all come from adam and Eve.
  • Alec Ford on Genesis 6
    So Genesis 6:3 , does it mean that there are 120 years until God destroys the earth, or that God has a mercy line and someone who knows the truth can only sin and neglect so great salvation for a set period that God only knows and that a person could find himself unable to repent even if wanting to, does this verse actually mean that there is a limit to which God will allow a person to refuse his calling.
  • Chris - in Reply on Genesis 6
    Alec, I believe that Genesis 6:3 applies to the time limit God had set before the Earth would be destroyed by the Great Flood. This is not to say that it took Noah 120 years to have the Ark built as we would have to take into account the birth of his sons, their marriages & the gathering of the animals & their food to be loaded into the Ark. Some who have patiently counted out the passage of time, have concluded that it took Noah approximately 55 to 75 years to build the Ark & the remaining time taken to those other matters I've given above.

    However, God has not indicated to us in the Bible the number of our remaining days before He will consume this old Earth, not by flood, but by fire ( 2 Peter 3:7,10). Unlike those in Noah's day who had 120 years to repent but chose to scoff at God's Word, God through His Living Word, Jesus Christ, has given mankind many, many more years to repent before the Age of Grace ends with the burning up of all things stained with corruption. Let us rejoice that the Lord has enlivened our hearts to receive that life saving Word granting us entrance to eternal life.
  • Monica on Genesis 6
    wat was on jesus mind as the time crucifixion approached?
  • Ron - in Reply on Genesis 6
    Monica, I don't believe we can imagine the true feelings of Jesus and what He was fixing to face, but the verses that stand out to me that shows the most human feelings of Jesus and what was on His mind, when Jesus was in the garden. He went to pray to the Father right before He was arrested. Jesus knew what He would soon endure, being arrested, spit on, beaten, nailed to a cross and to bear all the sins of this world. He even asked the Father if that cup could be removed.

    Luke 22:41-46 (KJV) And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed, 42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. 43 And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. 44 And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground. 45 And when he rose up from prayer, and was come to his disciples, he found them sleeping for sorrow, 46 And said unto them, Why sleep ye? rise and pray, lest ye enter into temptation.

    God bless, Ron
  • Mishael - in Reply on Genesis 6
    Those who he was laying his life down for. He was looking from past history, way into the future when you would be born and need a savior; on such and such day. That's why I praise Him. :D
  • Ben frost on Genesis 6
    Why did God sent a flood?
  • Vickie Simmons Davis on Genesis 6
    We are beginnning to study the Doctrine of God. What is the Doctrine of God, and what do we need to know concerning that as disciples?
  • David Stevens on Genesis 6
    Geat remnders advice adout life in the world we live in today.
  • Chansa on Genesis 6
    God is good
  • Victor on Genesis 6
    Genesis 6:18 But with thee will I establish my covenant;

    What is the Covenant about? How to understand it? Praise the Lord!
  • Chris - in Reply on Genesis 6
    The LORD God had issued several covenants, starting with Adam. When God issued a covenant, it was essentially God telling His people that what He would utter to them would be his pledge (or, promise) that something would happen.

    In the case of Genesis 6:18, we refer to it as the Noahic Covenant. And this Covenant is found by reading from Genesis 8:20 to 9:17. We see that after the Flood had assuaged & the Ark settled on dry ground, Noah offered burnt offerings to the LORD (probably in worship & thankfulness for their preservation). And the LORD "smelled a sweet savour" from these showing His acceptance of the offering & of Noah & his family. And so the Covenant was issued.

    And this Covenant included: no further curse to the ground we walk on; that the seasons will continue, as will day & night; & the LORD will never again destroy the Earth with a flood, providing a bow (rainbow) in the sky as a token of His Pledge. And we have indeed enjoyed God's Mercies & Pledge He made to Noah. However, the Apostle Peter in 2 Peter 3:5-11, reminds his readers that by the same Word of God that brought on the Flood that destroyed every living creature not in the Ark, so too will God once again bring destruction upon the Earth, this time not by water (according to that Pledge) but by fire. Therefore, knowing the certainty of God's Word & Promises, Peter challenges us: "Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness?"
  • Women Against Violence on Genesis 6
    Yes, Today there are a lot of Domestic Terrorist Groups in The USA and they have Targeted Religious Groups and Have threatened to Disenfranchise this Population.

    How Can The Church Leadership Help Preserve the Civil Rights of Religious People and Protect them from Domestic Terrorist Predators? There are Currently Cases Of Forced Prostitution on Church Members. They Need to Feel Safe.

    What Can Be Done?
  • WHHamilton on Genesis 6
    Verse 2 and 4 brings to mind just what is the sons of God and the women of man. Where did the giants come from and where did they go???
  • Carol on Genesis 6
    Did GOD kill the sons of GOD in the flood.
  • Rick Mentzer - in Reply on Genesis 6
    Carol the only righteous people were on the earth at the time of the flood were noah and his family many people think Genesis 6 ;2 refers to beings of the true God not so look up original language translation. Also old testament law forbad any written recording of any spiritual occurance had to have Gods name on it. That does not mean the True God actually did the work. Remember John 10: 9+ 10 the thief cometh not but to steal kill and destroy. Thats the adversary also in corinthians the last enemy to be destroyed is death therefore death is an enemy of God.
  • M - in Reply on Genesis 6
    The sons of God in Genesis 6 seems to refer to fallen angels, who were directly created by God instead of through a lineage. It seems they had children with human women and the offspring were giants. The giants were wiped out in the flood (entirely?), and I seem to recall that the fallen angels who had the offspring were sealed somewhere beneath the earth. However, I can't currently find where I read that.


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