Genesis Chapter 4 Discussion



 
  • GiGi - in Reply on Genesis 4
    Hello Joann,

    Read Romans Chapter One.

    Also 1 Cor. 6:9
  • Joann Wooten on Genesis 4
    Where to find the verses in the Bible where it shows that it is a sin to be gay/ liesibein etc. I have a family member that is saying that it is ok in the new testament of the Bible I know it is a sin, but need to show her proof.

    thanks
  • Jennifer Minton on Genesis 4
    Thank You so very much for having this.

    It has helped me in finding many scriptures.

    I really reading the Bible

    Thank You for making this possible.

    Jennifer Minton

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    Many Blessings to You and Family.....
  • Jeju - in Reply on Genesis 4
    This is prime example that no matter how much money we give to churches, we cannot enter in Heaven unless we are born again. Cain was living sinful life; therefore, God rejected his offering.
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Genesis 4
    Hi Linda

    I would like to add to what Brother Chris has shared,

    In Hebrews 11:4 it reads "By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain",

    Now faith comes by hearing the word of God,

    So if Abel offered his sacrifice by faith it seems he was instructed to offer the sacrifice he offered.

    BY WHICH HE OBTAINED WITNESS THAT HE WAS RIGHTEOUS, God testifying of his gifts: ( AND BY IT ) he being dead yet speaketh.

    It seems God expected obedience from Cain to follow through with a specific command in Genesis 4:7

    "If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

    Cain could have humbled himself and pleaded for forgiveness as Brother Chris said.

    It is impossible to please God without faith. Hebrews 11:6.

    God bless.
  • Chris - in Reply on Genesis 4
    Hello Linda. Many tend to believe that because Cain did not provide a blood offering, God had rejected it. But I cannot be sure whether at that time a blood sacrifice was mandatory, rather, that God was looking for something else.

    Therefore, in Genesis 4:3-5, we read that "the LORD had respect (or, looked upon, attended to) unto Abel and to his offering". I read this as both the offerer & the offering were considered by the LORD whether to be acceptable or not. God was considering Abel, his heart, his motives, his giving, and found him acceptable, as also his offering.

    But with Cain, his heart & offering were not right before the LORD, as we see that Cain flew into a rage when God rejected him & the offering. Abel had brought the "firstlings of his flock & its fat", while Cain might have just grabbed whatever 'produce of the ground' that came to his hand, deeming that the sacrificial act was more important than the quality of the sacrifice & of the heart.

    Cain, who also walked & talked with God as did his parents, should have rather been humbled by his error & pleaded for forgiveness & sought corrective help. But he walked off in a huff & allowed his anger against the LORD & against his brother to fester, allowing the devil to have his way with him ( Genesis 4:7,8; 1 John 3:12). So, in my understanding of these verses, it seems that the LORD was requiring both the gift & giver to be in an optimal state before Him; unfortunately, Cain failed God, his family & left a murderer & a vagabond.
  • Linda on Genesis 4
    Why did God reject Cain's offering? He was a tiller of the ground - he gave the first fruits of what he had. I do not understand why it was turned away. Thank You . . .
  • Luke - in Reply on Genesis 4
    It's called The 6th day Creation when God created Humans, all the races male and female, Adam was FORMED on the 8th, so there were people already in the land.
  • Hano - in Reply on Genesis 4
    What is the time frame to give context to your questions?

    Are we talking 1 year , 20 years 200 years 500 years ?

    Sorry I don't know .
  • Tron on Genesis 4
    If it was only Adam and Eve and Cain killed Abel.Hoe did he go and find a wife and who would be looking to slay him.
  • Luke - in Reply on Genesis 4
    Hello Jesse, While I agree, without faith it is impossible to please Him/God: And, Cain's offering was a sin offering, a product of the curse (religious yes but in his own way) where exactly may I read of this account you speak of? in scripture of course (because I have not read)

    And I quote

    "If you read the account, Cain sees what Abel is doing, and Cain decides he's going to bring an offering too. But his was religious. He wasn't doing it under the inspiration of God's Spirit. His heart wasn't right."
  • Henry - in Reply on Genesis 4
    Jesse. Amen. Cain's heart was corrupt so all deeds were the same.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Genesis 4
    Mary,

    Hebrews 11:4 says that by faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of, or literally, over his gifts: and by it he being dead yet he speaks.



    What is it about Abel's life that continues to speak in witness and in testimony? It's that by faith, he offered to God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain.



    Now let me share this to you because there are those who say "Well, he presented a better sacrifice, or more excellent sacrifice because it was an animal, or blood sacrifice, a lamb, vs. Cain's sacrifice which was vegetables from out of his garden."



    That's not what the bible says.



    As a matter of fact, if you look further back in the law, because there is no law in Genesis Chapter 4, but if you look into the law about God's requirement for sacrifices, it wasn't just animals and blood.



    There were herbs. There were meal offerings. So it wasn't that God looked at Abel's and said you got the right kind and Cain doesn't, so we'll reject his and we'll accept yours.



    Why was it a more excellent sacrifice?



    Because it was given by faith. Abel was governed by the influence of God's Spirit to bring a sacrifice to God.



    If you read the account, Cain sees what Abel is doing, and Cain decides he's going to bring an offering too. But his was religious. He wasn't doing it under the inspiration of God's Spirit. His heart wasn't right.



    And so when Cain brought his, God rejected it because it was religious and human motivated. Abel showed that he was under the influence of God's Spirit.



    God testifying of his gifts: You see, it's by faith. It doesn't make any difference what it is. It's the motive behind it.
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Genesis 4
    Genesis 4:3-24,

    Note Genesis 4:4 "._..._respect unto Abel & his offering:"

    Genesis 4:5 "But unto Cain & his offering._._."

    Genesis 4:7

    It seems to clearly say it was the person, giving it & how. There are other times GOD didn't accept bad attitudes, behavior nor their sacrifices, or offerings. Hosea 8:13, Jeremiah, Amos 5:22, Malachi 1:10,

    Notice Isaiah 58, Proverbs 21:3, Psalms 19:14, Proverbs 21:3,

    Proverbs 18:5,

    Isn't it interesting how when Jesus was helping people, healing & teaching, His brothers in the Temple also were likewise ready to kill Jesus making Jesus sacrifice acceptable to GOD & not their own? Mark 12, Hebrews 12,

    Romans 12:1,2, Ephesians 5:1-21, 1Peter 2:5,20,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Luke - in Reply on Genesis 4
    God didn't "respect" Cain's offering why? God want's the best from us, in this case (offerings) Cain brought of the fruit of the ground, Abel brought by faith of the firstlings of his flock, and the fattest ones too.

    Abel brought the best and the fattest sheep, Cain being the offspring of the Serpent, whereas the fruit they bare are bad, see parable of the (fig tree) God didn't respect it.
  • Mary Dobbs on Genesis 4
    Why was Cain's sacrifice not accepted by God? Like Ables was.
  • Mary Dobbs on Genesis 4
    Why was Cain's sacrifice not accepted by God? Like Ables was.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Genesis 4
    The best way to view Adam and Eve's children, is to Google the GENEALOGY of them.

    Be aware some names were popular and later people re-used the same name.

    Find a legible Chart.
  • Luke - in Reply on Genesis 4
    It's called the 6th day creation, when God created MANKIND, all the races male and female, and saw that it was good!

    Genesis 1:26 And God said,"Let Us make (mankind) in the likeness of Our image: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

    27 So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.

    28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea,and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."

    God ended His work of creating the 2nd Heaven and Earth age on the 6th day. He then sanctified the 7th and theN FORMED

    manADAM on the 8th, Genesis 2:7 a Potter to till the ground, He breathed into his nostrils the breath of life(soul)and manAdam became a living soul.

    The dinosaurs are what plenished the earth in the first age before God destroyed it.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Genesis 4
    Jeju,

    Genesis 5:4 tells us that Adam produced other sons and daughters. For a time, there had to have been marriage between siblings in order to populate further. There was no law against incest at that time because the law had not yet been given until later.
  • Jeju on Genesis 4
    Adam and Eve have 2 sons, but where is the other poeple coming from???
  • David - in Reply on Genesis 4
    Albert The question answers itself since the true God and father of our lord Jesus Christ is all good then logically the adversary or satan is the author of all evil so cain was spiritually his child not by flesh and blood. Look at acts 13:10 Paul calls out elymus

    the sorcerer and he became blind. Also in john 8 starting verse 13 talkuing to the leaders ye are from beneath Iam from above

    also verses 38-44 same people and in verse 44 ye are of or from your father the devil this is spiritual not physical. a person can get born again of the true God and a persson can get born again of satan which is irreversable which is why Jesus Christ said to

    ythem you will die in your sin they were unredeemable. It is written
  • Albert joiner - in Reply on Genesis 4
    I wonder where did his evil ways come from
  • Brother Jay. - in Reply on Genesis 4
    Yes brother he is.
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Genesis 4
    Yes Albert. Cain is Adams son.

    There is no denying this.

    Genesis 4:1. And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
  • Albert joiner on Genesis 4
    is cain adams son?
  • Mishael - in Reply on Genesis 4
    Genesis 2:5

    Creation is completed and God creates Adam ; then Eve (from Adams rib).
  • ROCKSON ANKOMAH on Genesis 4
    That is where the generation of human beings Started.
  • Melanie Daniel on Genesis 4
    I love reading king james version
  • Mishael on how to read Genesis - in Reply on Genesis 4
    All people came through Adam and Eve. God used one of Adams ribs to make Eve. Read of this through Genesis 1:26 through to Genesis 2:20-25

    Moses wrote it this way; for reasons. He wrote the first 5 Books of Genesis. During the Exodus too. He was trying to handle this all by himself, but came to a point when he appointed people to assist him with the care and problems of the exodus people, on the way to the Promised Land.

    Have you ever been writing something important and people interrupt you with: the battery in my car is dead. I need help? That's what was happening to Moses.

    So there are 2 places for you to read about man and woman's creation. Read those 2 scripture references. :)

    And__teach it to other people.

    The story of how Cain came to be killed is fascinating. You might have to look at those Geneologies in the Scriptures. Sometimes the Geneological Charts on Google is helpful.

    Remember that Jesus's Bloodline was moving through Seth's BLoodline.


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