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Which best represents the problem with the comment?
In the old testament they used these measures you see in
Deuteronomy 18:21-22. And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
Listen to Moses in Deuteronomy 18:17-18. And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken.
I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
That Prophet was Jesus.
Hebrews 1:1-2. God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake ""IN TIME PAST"" unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hath ""IN THESE LAST DAYS"" spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
And also what are the features to realise their habits
In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The KJV translates the Greek word "hades" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. HADES had two separated parts: Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in ABRAHAMS BOSOM which was called "PARADISE" by the LORD Jesus Christ himself when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified ( Luke 23:42-43)
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment" ( 2 Peter 2:4). The word translated "HELL" here is not the Greek word "HADES" but is the Greek word "TARTARUS" meaning ABYSS or the lowest regions. This could very well be the "gulf" that was fixed between the PLACE OF TORMENT and Abraham's Bosom ( Luke 16:26).
When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fulfill all things" ( Ephesians 4:8-10). Leading captivity captive seems to refer to Jesus taking all those that waited in Paradise to heaven to be with Him. The descending into the "lower parts" then refers to Jesus mission of declaring freedom too all inmates.
Do you see verse 2? By which also ye are (present tense)saved. and all you have to do is believe!
Luke 12:10 "And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.
whether a person blasphemes the Holy Ghost or not, they are headed for hell. for they are all condemned. John 3:18 "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." 2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." So it's not as easy as just finding a verse like that and wrongfully applying it, You must put in the Age of Grace, or it is taken out of context.
Those are excellent verses you listed, but they don't prove that once saved, always saved. The only verse someone needs to see to refute that is: Luke 12:10. It says if anyone (including Christians) commits blasphemy of the holy ghost they won't be forgiven. You are welcome to read my other post for more scripture, but all someone needs to see is that one verse to see that someone can be a Christian then still has the freewill to do the opposite and not be saved. God bless...
A Christian is a Christ follower- it means we are actively following Christ. If we genuinely do that the Bible says our sins will be covered by Jesus's sacrifice and grace. However, just because we become a Christian doesn't mean we're stripped of freewill and become robots- we still have full ability to choose good or evil, to sin or not sin, and we're still tempted by satan. Therefore, some people slip up occasionally and sin, but still genuinely try to follow Christ, however, some do stop, turn and follow satan and follow the evil of the world. That person is not saved and they are technically not acting like a Christian anymore.
Those who claim once saved always saved always fail to explain one simple indisputable verse: Luke 12:10. Jesus tells his followers (Christians) that if they commit blashphemy of the holy ghost they will not be saved. Hebrews 10:26 is another indisputable verse that was talking to Christians, saying that Christianity isn't a license to sin, or a get out of jail free card. Non-Christians who haven't received the knowledge of the truth as it says have ignorance as an excuse and doesn't apply to them.
Here's anther: Hebrews 6:4 - 6:6 and another: Matthew 7:21 - 7:23
The Bible speaks for itself. Only would have to cherry pick around all these 100% clear verses in order to come up with the opposite conclusion.
Satan is behind all lies and he's a great deceiver, so which is more likely: that he's deceiving people to fear God and obey Him more than they need to? Or, is it more likely satan is deceiving people into believing they're saved and it's ok to sin and follow the world?
30. We are sanctified or set apart as belonging to God. Heb. 10:10
31. We have peace with God. Rom. 5:1
32. We are made a part of the household of God. Eph 2:19
33. As living stones we are built into the spiritual house of God. I
Pet. 2:5; Eph. 2:20-22
34. We are given heavenly citizenship. Phil 3:20; Eph. 2:19
35. We are accepted in the Beloved. Eph 1:6
36. We are seated in the heavenlies in Christ. Eph. 2:6
37. Our life is hid with Christ in God. Col 3:3
38. We become new creatures in Christ. II Cor. 5:17;
Gal. 6:15; Eph. 2:10
39. We are exalted and glorified in Christ. Rom 8:30
40. We are redeemed and delivered from the law. Gal 3:13: Rom.
41. We become spiritual children of Abraham. Gal. 3:7
42. We become partakers of the blessings promised to Abraham. Gal 3:9, 29
43. All condemnation and judgment is lifted. Rom 8:1; John 3:18
44. We are delivered from the wrath to come. Rom 5:9;
I Thess. 5:
45. We enter in to spiritual rest of God. Heb 4:3, 9-10
46. We become brethren to Christ, our elder brother. Rom 3:29; Heb.2:11-12
47. We become partakers of the new covenant in Christ. Heb. 10:15-17
48. We become joint heirs with Christ. Rom 8:17; I Pet. 1:3-4; Tit
3:7; Col 1:12
49. Our names are recorded in the Lambs book of life. Luke 10:20;
50. We are given by the Father to the Son as His eternal possession!
51. Our faith is counted as righteousness. Romans 4 verse 5.
1. We are washed from our sins by the blood of Christ. Rev. 1:5
2. We are justified or acquitted from all guilt. Rom. 5:1; Tit 3-7
3. We receive the forgiveness of all sins. Col 1:14; 2:13
4. We are redeemed or purchased by God through the blood of
Christ. I Pet. 1:18; Heb. 9:12
5. We are born again spiritually into God's family. John 1:12; 3:3-5;
Gal 3:26; I John 5:1
6. Our sins are not imputed unto us. Romans 4:8 Romans 5:13 7. We are given eternal life and shall never perish. John 10:28; I
8. We are reconciled or restored to a right relationship with God. II
Cor. 5:18; Col 1:21
9. We are made the righteousness of God. II Cor. 5:21
10. We receive the Holy Spirit. I Cor. 6:19; I John 4:13
11. We are sealed by the Holy Spirit to the day of redemption. Eph.
1:13-14; I John 4:13; II Cor. 1:22
12. We are anointed by God with the Holy Spirit. II Cor. 1:22; I John
13. We are placed into the body of Christ. I Cor. 12:13,27
14. Our bodies become the members of Christ. I Cor. 6:15; Eph 5:30
15. We become one spirit with the Lord Jesus. I Cor. 6:17
16. God becomes the owner of our body and spirit. I Cor. 6:20
17. We are placed into Christ and found "in Him". John 14:20
18. We are risen with Christ to life. Col 2:12-13; 3:1
19. We are adopted as sons of God. Eph. 1:5; Rom 8:15
20. We enter into the grace of God. Rom 5:1-2
21. We are delivered from darkness and Satanic power. Col 1:13;
Eph. 5:8; Acts 26:18
22. We are placed into the kingdom of Christ. Col 1:13
23. We have been spiritually healed. I Pet. 2:24; Acts 28:27
24. We are chosen in Christ to be blameless before Him Eph. 1:4
25. We are predestined to be conformed to the image of Christ. Rom 8:29
26. We are elect according to the foreknowledge of God. I Pet. 1:2
27. We are perfected or made complete forever. Heb. 10:14
28. We are preserved or kept safe in Christ Jesus. Jude 1; II Tim.
4:18 29. God forgets all our sins forever. Heb. 10:17
30. We are s
may God bless you in your faith journey.
Matthew 5:2-48 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
Matthew 12:31 "Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men."
These are but a few scriptures to support that the Holy Ghost is a distinct part of the Trinity of God.
As per your claim "The Spirit is not a person" it would be nice to see some scripture to support your view.
1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." 1 John 5:8 "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." John 14:26 "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."
John 16:7-16 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you."
Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the RIGHT HAND OF GOD, who also maketh intercession for us.
And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Folks, this is the Godhead. Jesus did not let Mary Magdalene touch him, because he had not yet ascended to heaven to assume the position of High Priest.
He is in heaven where the 2 scriptures say what He is doing. When this age closes, the Father will tell the Bridegroom to go get His Bride.
The Holy Spirit is on earth now performing His ministry. Jesus went to the Cross to give believers the Holy Spirit who indwells each believer with the spirit of Christ.
He comforts, teaches, baptizes, SPEAKS, strives with sinners, creates, renews, convicts, anoints, guides, empowers, sanctifies, gives gifts, illuminates, reveals, truth of God, and much more.
After the catching up of the Church, His ministry will be diminished.
I would say I have a close relationship with Him. I pray, talk with, worship Jesus, read huge chunks of the Bible daily, sit still until He teaches me what I just read, He sharpens my spiritual discernment, corrects me often. I cannot express the inner JOY it is to covet being in His presence! He speaks to me at home, in the car, taking a walk. He gives words of knowledge and words of wisdom.
why?? Because He knows I am smitten with Jesus, and the Father that Jesus wants us to know. I'm going to do or say whatever he tells me.
My most favorite time is in silence, listening intently for Him. I sing-He sings. One time he sang, "I walk the Line" by Johnny Cash!
Get to know Him! He's a real Person who happens to be invisible to our eyes; but visible in the spirit; to hearts and to our spirit inside, ears. Be as close as you desire. Read 10 virgins story. The OIL is the Holy Spirits JOY.
Isaiah 44:3 "I will pour water on the thirsty land, and streams on the dry ground; I will pour out my Spirit on your offspring, and my blessing on your descendants."
The outpouring of the Spirit is a completed prophecy that ushered in the church age and the New Covenant in which all believers are given the Holy Spirit. Fact is the Holy Spirit has already come to us in salvation, and doesn't leave.
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is ONE LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might."Deu 6:4-5
The Hebrew word for ONE (echd) is the same word in this verse...
"Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be ONE flesh." Gen 2:24
So when God said, "Behold, the man is become as one of us," He was referring the plurality of The Trinity: God The Father, God The Son and God The Holy Spirit.
In The Bible there are TWO "In the beginning..." verses.
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." Gen 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."Joh 1:1
The Word was in the beginning.
The Word was WITH God.
The Word WAS God.
This is a way of saying that The Word (The Son) was involved with the creation with God (The Father). If you continue to read John 1, you will see that "The Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." This was Jesus!
The teaching about The Trinity is that God is ONE BEING comprised of three PERSONS: The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. Each of the Persons are fully God, but distinct Persons.
Hope this helps.