Genesis Chapter 1 Discussion



 
  • RED APPLE TREATY 4 ME ONLY on Genesis 1 - 2 months ago
    "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." Genesis 1:27 KJV

    God made man in his image and when you look at male and female you will see God. Both are adopted and loved by God.
  • Gerhardus - In Reply on Genesis 1:1 - 4 months ago
    Hi GiGi.

    I have named no names and purely made a statement.

    I am under the impression God is a live and his Son Jesus is still on earth.

    Matthew 4:4 | Read whole chapter

    But he answered, and said, It is written, Man shall not liue by bread alone, but by euery word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 1:1 - 4 months ago
    Hello again Gerhardus,

    In my post I did not claim to be chosen of God due to education or certificate, so that comment does not apply to me.

    Jesus said that His words are spirit and Life, so yes, the Scriptures bring us knowledge of Christ without Him appearing to us. We hear from those He inspired who WERE eyewitnesses of Him when He lived on earth (Paul being the exception having seen the risen and glorified Jesus).

    Gerhardus, one thing I think every believer has is the Holy Spirit because Peter said that the Spirit is given to all who come to faith in Jesus Acts 2:38-39. When you ask those on this forum if we have received the Holy Ghost, it seems like you are posing a challenge to others as to the genuineness of their faith, which you cannot determine. And when you denigrate those who seek to learn from Scripture, you are showing a prejudice towards people who use their minds as well as their hearts to come to know our Lord and the Father.

    We are to love the Lord with all of our hearts, soul, MINDS, and strength. We are to us our mind to access what God says in HIS Scriptures. It is with our minds that we hear the Scriptures spoken or with our minds that we read and understand what we read. This is as God has designed it to be.

    Scriptures do not tell us to expect a "visit" from Jesus to be taught of Him, as you seem to state. He gave us Scriptures as a sure and stable revelation of Himself and how He saves us from our sin. How we are to live inn a godly way for His glory and how we are to treat one another with love, especially those who also believe.

    Gerhardus, I am glad to have read your posts. I hope our conversations will be gracious and reflect the truth of God revealed in Scripture. I will be praying for you. I hope you will also lift me up in prayer. Thanks.
  • Gerhardus - In Reply on Genesis 1:1 - 4 months ago
    Do every one have the Holy Ghost?
  • Gerhardus - In Reply on Genesis 1:1 - 4 months ago
    A person need to receive the Holy Ghost. And Christ gave the Holy Ghost unto his Apostles and they gave it unto those that were chosen by God. Jesus said unto his Apostles free you have received it free you shall give it. If he that claim he is a chosen of God because he paid for the education and has a certificate to prove it is a liar and had been lied to.

    The New testament acknowledge Jesus and tel us things about him and the works he did and the things he said but it also tel us about the Apostles and the things they did and say and how God appeared unto them and have send them where He God needed them.

    The Scripture by itself dont bring salvation. It may bring hope. Salvation is to know the true God and his Son Jesus Christ - the Church today off which Christ is the head.

    What I learn from the new testament is that God - if (you are a chosen) may personally appear unto you, from time to time, with a special request which you SHOULD NOT go against.

    The thing is - CAN "YOU - meaning anyone today" with authority claim he is a chosen one of God.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 1:1 - 4 months ago
    Hello Gerhardus, welcome.

    The story of Philip and the Ethiopian demonstrates why God gave the offices of pastor, teacher, evangelist, apostle to the church Jesus created and promised to preserve throughout the ages. The Scriptures are our teachers because the words were written by apostles, taught of God, Who gave them the inspiration as to what to write. The Words in Scripture are God's message to us.

    We are to read the Scriptures repeatedly to get them deep into our minds and hearts:

    *to be able to remember verses to share with others in their time of learning or need

    *to bring to mind when we need comfort, correcting, and understanding in all situations in our lives

    *to teach them to our children in the everyday moments when circumstance come up where a good word from Scripture is needed without opening up the Scriptures to search for a verse

    There are many more reasons to be very familiar with ALL of the Bible, so frequent reading is important.

    Then there is the study of the Scriptures that goes beyond just reading it. We do this to:

    *learn correct doctrines taught by the apostles across the epistles

    *to learn more and more of Jesus in the Gospels

    *to mature in our understanding of what God has revealed in Scripture

    *to share our thoughts with others as we interact with Scripture

    *to learn from a pastors sermons, teachers who lead us, and those God has anointed to be wise in Scriptural truth.

    There are many other reasons to study the Scriptures

    We meditate on what we read in Scriptures to:

    *allow the Holy Spirit to strengthen our faith

    *to immerse ourselves in the thoughts of Gods instead of thoughts of the world

    *to mindful of God's Presence in us and His prescribed way of coming to Him through prayer and His Word

    *to help us as we pray with the help of the Holy Spirit

    There are many other reasons to meditate on Scripture.

    All these actions are important to employ in our lives regularly.

    Jesus said, "My words are Spirit and Live"
  • Gerhardus on Genesis 1:1 - 4 months ago
    The Scripture is good for teaching and referral. Knowing the Scripture by heart is good but is not meaningful to God. Looking at the piece where Philip was send to the eunuch on the wagon there are a lot to learn from this piece.

    1) The Lord after His crucifixion appeared unto Philip (ONE he taught) and instructed him to visit the eunuch on the wagon. It is clear that God from time to time make use of people HE TAUGHT to go and do work for HIM. Now then if you are not a taught of Christ how will he appear unto you?

    2) The eunuch did read the Scripture but did not understand (hidden from). This again shows me if you are not taught by Christ himself or by one he directly taught and or they taught you will not understand the scripture. And therefor not one of HIS. As it is written in the scripture where Jesus told them who did not understand - you dont understand cause you not of my flock.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 5 months ago
    Hi Angel,

    The held tradition is Adam and Eve are the man, male and female created on day six. It will be defended dogmatically, and for no reason other than that is what has been taught. There are only 5 chapters from the creation of Adam until the flood, 1656 years. There is so much we have not been told.

    There are two Adams in the Bible the first in Genesis 2 and the last, Jesus our savior, 1 Cor. 15:45. Everyone living today is the descendant of Adam and Eve due to the flood where Noah and his sons and wives are the only eight humans after the flood and we all came from them.

    The male and female on day six were to be fruitful and fill the earth and have dominion over the entire earth. Could Adam and Eve do this in the Garden of Eden, they did not have children until they were cast out of the garden, if this was on day six, after they had sinned, would God say everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good, Gen. 1:31? What does it change? Nothing, since the flood Eve is still the mother of all living, all before the flood is washed away.

    Sin began with the first Adam and salvation was with the last Adam Jesus and what was before the first Adam we have not been told. We must study without preconceived ideas and our ears open to the teaching of the Spirit of God. Study the words earth and field. Could Adam and Eve fulfill the earth and have dominion over the entire earth being in the Garden of Eden?

    There is more I could say but it does not change the plan of God, we all are descendants of Adam and Eve, and evolution has no part in creation. The teaching of man causes doubt, Truth sets us free, study for your understanding and your conscience.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Jesse A - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 5 months ago
    Hi, Angel.

    There is only one creation of man.

    Genesis ch 1 is the beginning and the time in days etc.

    In which god formed all things.

    Genesis ch 2 is an explanation of how and what Gods process was. We can see this in Genesis ch 2 vs 4-5

    4

    These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

    5

    And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

    Look at the words in vs 4 These are the generations (present tense)

    Vs 4 again when they were created. (Past tense)

    Vs 5 of the field before it was in the earth .key word being (before ) meaning prior to him creating it.

    Hope this helps.

    May Gods peace and Grace be upon you.

    GB I love you all.
  • Jordyn - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 5 months ago
    AngelEverett:

    Yes there is TWO creations of man.

    The FIRST was when he made man out of the dust of the earth and breathed the breath of life into man.

    The SECOND is when ALL FLESH and BLOOD died on the cross of Christ.

    Three days later a NEW CREATION arose, Christ and his wife, EVE, taken from Christ's rib, bone of Christ's bone flesh of Christ's flesh, NO LONGER living by the breath of life, BUT, LIFE by the SPIRIT of GOD.

    God BLESS YOU!
  • AngelEverett on Genesis 1 - 5 months ago
    So interesting in Genesis! In Chapter 1:26 - 27 God created man - male and female telling them to replenish the earth, be fruitful and multiply.

    Then in Genesis 2v.7 Another account of God creating man. This time the account says He breathed into his nostrils the breath of life making him a living soul.

    Not until verse 22 do we have an account of the creation of woman who God began with Adam's rib. Adam taken from the dust - woman taken from man.

    So was there two creations of man?
  • Oseas - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 5 months ago
    Karoanne"

    The Word is from everlasting to everlasting, He has not begining nor ending. JESUS is the begining. The Word is GOD-John1:1-, The same was in the beginning -was in JESUS-with GOD- John 1:2. As said the angel of the Lord -John the Baptist - "No man hath seen GOD at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared Him". Isaiah 9:6 - Unto us a child is born, unto us a Son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. JESUS said: I and my Father are One( John 10:30), and All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth- Matthew 28:18.



    Who knows GOD? Who knows JESUS? Even JESUS Himself said: No man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal Him- Matthew 11:27. It's it.
  • FaithNYeshua on Genesis 1 - 5 months ago
    Studying Scripture is so magnificent. Thousands of generations have received God's faithful Truth!

    It presses me deeply within by recognizing the Virtue In Strength seeing language has evolved so many eras, past and even now In our day, so deep meditation and prayer aids me to hear God's message.

    A firm foundation is {'knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture came to be of one's own interpretation, for prophecy never came by the desire of man, but men of Elohim spoke, being moved by the Set-apart Spirit. Kpha Bt (2 Peter) 1:20-21 TS2009}

    In John 1:1 ( Gen. 1:1; Rev. 3:14 along side being lead back from Isa. 46:9-10) begins to point out the bigger portrait necessary to come to better understand Him.

    Before being born regenerate by (and through) Yeshua, I would read and not understand. Now The Scriptures (Genesis to Malachi) bring clear evidence that caused an ahha moment like Mosheh at the Bush that burned which wasn't consumed. ( Ex. 3:2-4). Isa. 46:10 also renews the mindset as written, {I call upon you, therefore, brothers, through the compassion of Elohim, to present your bodies a living offering - set-apart, well-pleasing to Elohim - your reasonable worship. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you prove what is that good and well-pleasing and perfect desire of Elohim. Romiyim (Romans) 12:1-2 TS2009}

    because { Messiah is the same yesterday, and today, and forever.

    Irim (Hebrews) 13:8 TS2009}

    among many others brings understanding to Yeshua meaning by the ancient tongue, means Yehovah saves. Showing they are One. ( said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham came to be, I am."). Yohanan (John) 8:58 TS2009

    joining God to be understood as ONE {And Elohim said to Mosheh, "I am that which I am." And He said, "Thus you shall say to the children of Yisra'l, 'I am has sent me to you.' "

    Shemoth (Exodus) 3:14 TS2009.}
  • Dgjot - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 5 months ago
    Thank You. That is very helpful
  • Dgjot - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 6 months ago
    Okay. Thank You.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 6 months ago
    Hello, Dgjot,

    Glad to hear from you.

    Most say that Moses wrote Genesis-Deuteronomy. He was inspired by the Holy Spirit to write not only what he experienced in his lifetime, but also Genesis. Did the Holy Spirit give him direct revelation concerning Genesis, especially about creation or did the Holy Spirit help him recall what had been passed down from generation to generation? I really cannot say. If it is the latter, then i feel that I must assume that God preserved the truth of what occurred as it was passed from generation to generation.
  • Dgjot on Genesis 1 - 6 months ago
    Who wrote Genesis? Moses??
  • Bennymkje - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 6 months ago
    We both are children of God since we committed our lives to Jesus Christ we also brethren. There is no age or gender bar in his sight. So let us see how God builds you and me in Christ. In Col.1:16-19 we are told we all are part of his body. God determined this fulness in him so everything must relate to the body, the Church. "And by him all things consist." You mentioned of angels and you are right.

    The holy city of God has only single measure. Gospel is one and,"The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal./And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel." (Re.21:16-17) Jesus Christ died once and he has a spiritual body, an anagel' to all practical purposes. When we say we have put on Christ we are part of the measurement. Wherever we lack it is his grace that shall fill up the shortfall. So we live by grace and trusting that he knows all our needs. St John wanted to worship the angel who showed him around. He told him not to."for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, " He is one like John and it is how we serve each other. We are all angels working with the spirit of Christ and our indwelling Spirit responds to it. We need not put him to test but simply trust. He will not contradict God or his Word. As he is so are we in this world.

    May the grace of our Savior bless us and keep us to remain pure in this world. Amen
  • Pete - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 6 months ago
    Thank U for your comments. It will take time for me to understand them as I don't read the various parts of the bible. I read the commandments and some of genesis and accept the Bible. I do research and some I think relatd to the BIble. I think that our time scales are far different for the time scale of God for example I often wondered that when the roll is called up younder; how long would it take as I imagined it would be like in a class room and the I realized that God can do anything and so that would be done in far less that a milli second as we would all instantly hear our names; and similarly, the the plans for heaven and Earth were in less than a millisecond; and it was all started and continued and done and then his spirit was upon the face of the earth; and He created all the animals etc. and then man; and He created man with the ability to think and decide right from wrong, a little lower that the angels; and there was a reason for that, as angles, if they start to think, they can rebels similar to when the archangel and his followers did, or they just may want try living on earth, maybe to see if they can better it as live men or women; but when they become so they forget they are angles and are born as children a little lower than angles. I think that God sets up Systems for everything that automatically work; and if you do not follow the systems; they will not work as they should of course and we may suffer and or maybe die; however the system will recover before we all die.

    BY faith in Jesus who died for our sins; and the forgiving of those sins; many will be judged and hopefully saved to live as Angels

    I dont think my comments contradict anything in the Bible. They are not meant to do so. They are only my thoughts and I appreciate anyone commenting on them and teaching me and even adding new aspects to my thoughts. Debating, free speech and discussion is good for mind, body and souls; but it also can confuse. So take care. Thanks 4 your reply
  • Bennymkje - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 6 months ago
    Hello Pete,

    In order to understand the creation account it is a simple matter of following the Spirit who organized it as the God document. 2 Ti.3:16 The Bible is God breathed. God breathing into man made him a living soul, So we shall do well to compare spiritual with spiritual. "Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual."(1 Co.2:13)

    The first chapter of Genesis is the abstract of the worlds framed by the word of God. Jesus Christ as the visible image of the invisible God. It is thus we view faith as the only manner the invisible aspects of God we may cultivate. He.11:3 By faith God framed the worlds. Jesus Christ as the Word become flesh we receive by faith. In the fulness of time so St Paul refers to his Advent ("But when the fulness of the time was come"-Gal.4:4)

    When the Spirit begins the Book of Genesis 'In the beginning' refers to a timescale which has nothing to do with earth time. It is the will of God so we either accept it totally or deny it. There was no human will or reason to interpret it arbitrarily. The Bible is inerrant. The focus is solely on the Son who was sent for a purpose. God blessed us with all spiritual blessings even before the worlds we created. (Ep.1:3) The Word was God. ( John 1:1) This verse also begins with 'In the beginning'. There is also 'end times'.
  • Pete on Genesis 1 - 6 months ago
    In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

    THIS IS INTERESTING BECAUSE WHEN HEAVEN WAS CREATED IT TOOK A TREMENDOUS LOT OF ENERGY, (and i would think iwt; and that even natural mind and or brain development is all about smooth, relaxing, quiet energy) AND iwt that angels were created at the same time as they are part of Heaven and iwt that they do not ordinarily think unless it is all good and proper thinking for an angel and if it is not; they are fallen angels and probably become as men or women; but man is a little lower than angels; and we thus we do think; and if we think like an angel, we will become angels but if we don't; if we believe enough to become one; and if we truly wanted forgivenous; we will be forgiven. I think that man was created to give angels a place to go if they wanted a change form going throughout heaven viewing all of God's creation; and of course Adam was directed to look after the animals/ecology; but he failed and we failed.
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 7 months ago
    Hi Strobe. In Genesis 3:20, Adam named his wife 'Eve' (Hebrew, Chavvah), as this name means, "life, or living". You might remember that Adam first called her 'woman' (Ishshah, Genesis 2:23), meaning, 'woman, female' (as one coming out from man), but then he named her, Eve. We aren't told what prompted Adam to now call her Eve; probably, he saw in her the God-given capacity to reproduce & hence be the progenitor of others of their type, not being created in the way God had done for them. So this verse then strongly implies that there were no living humans before Adam & Eve, as Eve was our very first Mother & all in the world must come through her line & manner of birth (not creation).
  • Strobe on Genesis 1 - 7 months ago
    What does it mean when Eve became the "mother of all living" ( Genesis 3:20)?
  • Pierre1939 - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 9 months ago
    Gi Gi I pray for you, In Jesus name.....Rev.12:5....Now you have put your self in rank with satan the dragon that wants to kill the woman and her Child....Which is the H.G.....My doctrine is solely the doctrine of the manchild.....The H.G. that Child of Promise.....And its this Child the spirit of truth that is gonna reprove this world of sin and righteousness and Judgment.....He has neva known you Gi Gi, if he had you wd be with Child of the H.G.....But you are saying this is all hogwash....Clearly you are without understanding of spiritual things....GBU
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 9 months ago
    Alex, I strongly disagree with what you have said to counter what I posted. It is false teaching and , in my opinion, hogwash.

    You continue to post basically the same ideas over and over again, and seem to be implying that you got this revelation straight from God and not from Scripture. you are in grave error if that is what you believe.
  • Pierre1939 - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 9 months ago
    I disagree with you GI GI.....We cannot study our selves into the Kingdom of God.....Its gotta come by divine revelation.....and a Child has to be born in us which is the H.G. That Child of Promise.....As Jesus told Peter Flesh and blood has not revealed it unto you but my Father in heaven.....Which is the H.G. the gift of God.....An incorruptible seed has to be sown in us that initiates a new Birth of Christ in us....Thats y he has to know us....So that his good seed will be sown in our hearts.....Thus the babes and sucklings .....Which are baby Gods thats y their praise is perfect.....Outa of the mouths of babes and suckling thou has perfected Praise.....To whom the word came ( the living word) it made them Gods and the scripture cannot be broken.....

    His good seed the word has to be sown in our hearts initiating Faith a spiritual pregnancy....When a woman is pregnant she has the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen....But our fetus is the H.G....As that which is born of the spirit is spirit...She brought forth a man child that is gona rule all nations which is that spirit of truth that is gona reprove this world of sin and righteousness and Judgment.... Gal 4 :19 My lil CHILDREN of whom i travail in birth till Christ is formed in you.....Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in....That Hidden manna.....Plz note their is no SALVATION OR KINGDOM till the woman gives birth to the Children as says in Rev. 12 :10.....Thats y Jesus is saying these things are HID from the wise and Prudent...But only revealed unto babes....His babes...His seed etc....Behold me and the Children the lord has given me are they not for signs and wonders to the house of Israel.....They are our new hearts and new spirits.....The H.G. is truly the Israel of God a heavenly ppl that are gonna be born in us....The sun does not lite on them or any heat nor do they ever hunger or thirst simply b/c they are Spirits..Th H.G....
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 9 months ago
    Dear Alex,

    I disagree with you.

    I think that Jesus was saying that He made it so that those who thought they were wise and prudent in understanding spiritual matters would not understand, making their ears not hear and their eyes not see. But it is those who are reborn that are able to understand that which has been written in Scripture in light of the gospel and work of Jesus for our salvation. I believe that the New Testament interprets the Old Testament so that what was written in the Old Testament is given correct interpretation in the new Testament.

    I do not think as you do, that every Scripture has a hidden meaning. Much of what is written in the Word is easily understood by believers without resorting to some hidden meaning or knowledge because the Holy Spirit brings understanding to us if we continue to read the whole of Scriptures. The more we read from both the New and Old Testament, the more we understand what God was conveying to us and the Holy Spirit helps us apply it to our lives.
  • Pierre1939 - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 9 months ago
    Gi Gi.....Jesus says in Matthew 11:25.....I thank you Father Lord of heaven and earth that you HAVE HID THESE THINGS from the Wise and Prudent and only revealed them to babes and sucklings.....Thus every thing has a hidden meaning that only the babes can understand......Who are the babes.....the H.G. our new innerman.....That New Creature that has to be born in us....As that which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. the Children of Promise.....That New Born babe desiring the sincere milk of the word is the H.G. That Child of promise....Which answers to our new hearts and new spirits...So plz don't tells folks there is no hidden knowledge.....ok gbu
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 9 months ago
    Dear Earl, (Landry)

    I am not in agreement with how you characterized my beliefs nor with your interpretation of

    Scriptures.

    Even so, thanks for sharing your thoughts with me. We just do not have much thinking in common as far as I can tell from the many months we have been on this forum together. To me, you are a false teacher, and one whose teachings I should scrutinize carefully and not accept readily.

    God bless.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 9 months ago
    Hello oseas,

    Thanks for the reply.

    It seems that we are very far apart as far as how we approach and interpret Scripture. I do not know of a verse that tells us to search for hidden and obtuse meanings in Scripture where the plain meaning fits with the context of the verses being studied. I think that looking for "hidden knowledge" in Scripture will lead to much error. It was what the Gnostics did in the early days of the Church and were spoken of as people whose ideas believers are to avoid.


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