The way you worded that is different than most people I know have but if you think about it the fruit was there, god had it dangling right before their eyes, he must have been testing them to see if they are trustworthy people, but you said that he told them they will die if they eat the fruit and they did? In that case, they must have wanted to die, if they had a perfect life why would they wan't to die, see a piece is missing I believe Adum and Eve were not happy at all.
God had made Adam and Eve with perfect consciousness and free will. God commanded them not to eat the fruit of the tree and when they eat, they shall surely die. But eating the fruit of the tree is purely Eve's and Adam's choice.
Even though Satan lied and deceived them, they have a choice to make and they knew the God how powerful and Holy he is. They didn't recall the commandment given by God but they went after their own will.
That's the reason God have punished Adam and Eve too.
Thank you very much for that. You helped me understand. I'm grateful you read that craziness and helped to bring just a little clarity into my life. Thank you.
I don't understand your question. God made man and then made woman; and of course it may say it a little different as the Bible was written a long time ago; but I can't understand how you say that the they commuted and made God??? God is the head of man' and man is the head of woman; however, be careful how you treat that woman as no where does it say you boss her or order her etc. She was made for man as it is not good for man to live alone; and you have to treat her good; as if it comes from God; it is good; and so; Don't misinterpret as some men do. Treat her right. I may have misunderstood your question but it seemed to be referring to something like that. Sorry if it is not what you were referring to. Have a great and wonderful day.
I agree with you, Juphil. God is not three in one. He has always been and will always be One. Throughout the Bible, God has presented himself as One. ( I Timothy 3:16; Isaiah 43:10; Revelation 1:13; Revelation Chapter 5,etc) In fact, He has said if there was another God--He did not him( Isaiah 43:11) When God created man, there was only one other being that possessed His image and likeness--angels. While the Bible says that God counsels Himself, There was no Trinity Present in Creation. In the beginning, was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God. God cannot be separated from his Word--the same way we cannot be separated from our words. Our words define who we are. God gave dominion to mankind. Therefore, man is responsible for the mess that man has created. Perhaps one of the greatest commandments was "Hear o Israel the Lord our God is one Lord. Jesus is God in human form. Jesus said "I have manifested thy name ( John 17:6) Jesus is not God Jr; He is exclusively God.
Our God is an Omniscient God, i.e. He knows all things. He knew that Adam & Eve would sin & that this sin would be passed throughout all humanity. He knew that it wouldn't be by the giving of the Law through Moses, that the sin issue would be dealt with (the law was only a schoolmaster ( Gal 3:24,25)) to show Israel & us that we are not able to get right with God by obeying His Laws, simply because we just can't do it. God knew that one day, He would have to send of Himself (His Word, His Son: Jn 1:1-12) so that the full & only price could be paid for sin, so that man may only just believe in His Sacrifice to be saved & not anything else ( Eph 2:1-10). So, if God knew all this from the beginning till now, why were Adam & Eve punished, since it was already known by God? It then is a question of obedience. They were not created robotic. God did tell them to not eat of the fruit of that particular tree ( Gen 2:16,17). They had a choice to obey their Creator or not. They chose wrongly!
Go to amazingfacts.org and look at their on line library. Found under Bible studies link. There you will find a book discussing the secret Rapture. This will give you lots of scripture. You be the judge of the book if it is truthful (God,s Truth) or the other side of the secret Rapture doctrine is correct.
Veronica. There was a rebellion in Heaven. You know the story I assume. Now there was disobedience on Earth caused by the spirit of Satan. God must destroy this Spirit , however if he had did this in the Garden of Eden , the other two thirds of loyal Angels would always have room to suspect that Satan the great accuser was right. Now this planet as become a Theator to the loyal Angels and other unfallen world's.. Sin must run it's course. God will bring a end to all of this. The war started only 6000 years ago. That is only like 6 days to our God. There is a Bible text that Is written in the New Testimont that supports our world being watched by Angels and other unfallen world's.
Samuel Kim: if you use the search box when this site opens, type Lucifer. It will pull up all scriptures with that name/word. His name changed when he and the fallen angels got kicked out of Heaven; again for saying I WILL.
In Genesis 1:1 it says 'on the beginning'. I was told that in original language it says, IN BEGINNING God created the heaven and the earth.
The first thing that God created was TIME. Scripture says that God is the Alpha and Omega. (Which means the beginning and the end)of creation.
In Genesis 1:2, described that the earth was without form, and void; I wonder how was before this earthly condition? Was per-earth existed before formless earth or not? I don't think that Genesis 1:1-2 are not really true beginning for all things. Perhaps, that is beginning for men.
GWEN: Father, Son, Holy Spirit are the LET US, that are speaking. Jesus said I and My Father are one and the same. The Holy Spirit is the spirit of Jesus.
When Adam was spirit, soul, body until he and Eve used their FREE WILL to eat the forbidden fruit because Satan said it would be ok. They lost their spirit connection for fruit!! Satan sure uses food to tempt people.
The only way we can be connected to God spiritually is to be Born Again.
These days we are living in are about the great falling away (from God). The apostasy.
Get a modest sized concordance with dictionary that will help you study a subject. I've actually found perfectly good condition KJV version Bibles at Goodwill stores.
Jesus said in John 6:40, "And this is the will of Him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Everybody that the Father draws to Christ will come. And everybody that comes to the Son and receives Him, Jesus will not lose a single one.
2 Peter 3:9 says that the Lord is not willing that any should perish.
For those who receive Christ, what He expects from us is faithfulness. We are to humble ourselves before Him, submit to His will in our lives, and be transformed by the renewing of our minds. Jesus gave us the command deny ourselves, take up our cross daily, and follow Him. ( James 4:7-10, Romans 12:2, Matthew 16:24). Submitting ourselves to God's transformation process, and allowing Him to renew our minds through a continuous study of His word, is the acceptable, and perfect will of God for us. ( Romans 12:2).
Sonia, I can't find your original post now; the way the thread system works in KJB online, is peculiar. I think Mishael has sent you a reply to the Rapture, so will leave off for now. Apologies, if Gen 1:27 was not your subject. Blessings.
God created the world in just 6 days n on the 7th day he blessed it and said let all creatures on earth glorify me (God),he then created Adam in his image with eve along side .my question is God knew that the serpent was clever to deceive eve to have the fruit, then why did God himself punished Adam & eve after eating the fruit for the two were just innocent n blind of what was happening?why didn't he punish the serpent only?
Sonia: if you will type in 'caught up' in the search box when this website opens you will see verses concerning (the rapture). Read the chapters where they are found.
Another way the Bible refers to the event is: as a thief in the night. Also, "the Day of the Lord". 2 Peter chapter 3;12 I think says it best; that we are to be LOOKING for the Lord. There's a lot of scripture about the Rapture. I look for Him every day :)
Absolutely incorrect... Light and dark does not reflect Good and evil. This is a misnomer. Light and darkness are both two equal parts of a whole. God uses these two elements to create space for growth and learning. we all spend nine months in darkness before receiving a light and coming from our mother's womb. I'll see you tomorrow planted in dirt into darkness to germinate. after some time they peek through the surface and receive the sunlight and finish their growth. Everything starts off in darkness.
I've read the KJV from childhood, so am tickled to read how someone could find Gen 1:27 confusing. And I suppose it is, if you are not accustomed to the older style of English. What the verse is saying in modern English is: "So God created man in His Own Image, in God's Image man was created; both male & female were created by God". There is no indication of man & woman making a 'god of this world'. The god of this world is Satan who was banished from God's Presence because sin was found in him ( Ezek 28:14,15: the king of Tyrus was a type). And this god of the world has full sway on the lives of those (the progeny of Adam & Eve) who disobey the God of Heaven.
So if he/them is actually a dynamic, or dichotomy,(the age old us vs them battle) ,instead of the face value, simple translation I have always interpreted as ancient people talking funny and putting words in the wrong place.
so god made man, then made woman and when male and female communed they made god in the world instead of just above"
I'm trying to unlearn and relearn. Anyone have any ideas
Satan, the god of this World, has blinded the minds of them which believe not ( 2 Cor 4:4), & he has been helped by ungodly parents & governments who have done away with Scripture teaching in homes & schools that might alert these young hearts from hearing the Truth & considering the Love & Mercy of God. A sad state of affairs that leads us down the path of Sodom & Gomorrah:"and God saw that her cry was great & because her sin was very grievous"( Gen 18:20). How long will He be able to withhold His Anger Except for 2 Pet 3:9, we know that God's long suffering towards us is that He waits for others to come to repentance. Also, I thought that the U.S. had largely legalized same sex marriage.
Is it not worrisome with the level of moral decadence, thievery and corruption of the mind, seeing Mankind giving honour to whom it is not due Why would Mankind abandoned worshipping God for Satan Draw near to God and He will draw near to you ( James 4:8) Now Is it not right for Him to turn His wrath against Mankind for the perpetration of evil acts The joy we have is that man is not God and God is not man. Have you seen man descended so low as to encouraged homosexuality, which resulted to same sex marriage, that was almost legalized in America if not for the timely and concerted efforts of President Donald Thrump Why then the noise now, knowing what the Scripture says in Amos 3:6
To Prof.Venkateshwar. Trinity doctrine (precis): This God (Spirit Being) sent His Word to Earth for the express purpose of clothing the Word in humanity ( John 1) for the presentation of Himself to His people. His Word was called Jesus; Jesus revealed God & Kingdom to the people; He sought & prayed to His Father God; He called to His Father in Heaven in His last moments on the Cross; and in His ascension, He is now at the Father's Right Hand, interceding for His people. Before His death, Jesus told His disciples that He would not leave them comfortless, but send another Comforter (the Paraclete = His Spirit). This is One God in 3 Persons = God cannot be God without the Word (Jesus) & Spirit.
To Prof.Venkateshwar. I would ask one thing? Are you connected with the Jesus Only group? Re: Baptism in Jesus' Name or Trinity. Firstly, Salvation does not come through water baptism, only by the Spirit. If water baptism was necessary, then not only salvation comes through a partial effort from us, but to those unable to be baptized because of infirmity or opportunity, are then doomed to hell in spite of their 're-birth' experience. Those who baptise in the Name of the Trinity, use Mathew 28:19 as their warrant. Those who baptise only in Jesus' Name, use Acts 8:16, 10:48, 19:5. I don't think it ultimately matters which is used, the believers' identification with Christ is paramount here.
Even though Satan lied and deceived them, they have a choice to make and they knew the God how powerful and Holy he is. They didn't recall the commandment given by God but they went after their own will.
That's the reason God have punished Adam and Eve too.
In Genesis 1:1 it says 'on the beginning'. I was told that in original language it says, IN BEGINNING God created the heaven and the earth.
The first thing that God created was TIME. Scripture says that God is the Alpha and Omega. (Which means the beginning and the end)of creation.
When Adam was spirit, soul, body until he and Eve used their FREE WILL to eat the forbidden fruit because Satan said it would be ok. They lost their spirit connection for fruit!! Satan sure uses food to tempt people.
The only way we can be connected to God spiritually is to be Born Again.
These days we are living in are about the great falling away (from God). The apostasy.
Get a modest sized concordance with dictionary that will help you study a subject. I've actually found perfectly good condition KJV version Bibles at Goodwill stores.
Jesus said in John 6:40, "And this is the will of Him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Everybody that the Father draws to Christ will come. And everybody that comes to the Son and receives Him, Jesus will not lose a single one.
2 Peter 3:9 says that the Lord is not willing that any should perish.
For those who receive Christ, what He expects from us is faithfulness. We are to humble ourselves before Him, submit to His will in our lives, and be transformed by the renewing of our minds. Jesus gave us the command deny ourselves, take up our cross daily, and follow Him. ( James 4:7-10, Romans 12:2, Matthew 16:24). Submitting ourselves to God's transformation process, and allowing Him to renew our minds through a continuous study of His word, is the acceptable, and perfect will of God for us. ( Romans 12:2).
Another way the Bible refers to the event is: as a thief in the night. Also, "the Day of the Lord". 2 Peter chapter 3;12 I think says it best; that we are to be LOOKING for the Lord. There's a lot of scripture about the Rapture. I look for Him every day :)
I agree with you! Thanks for your comment!
I was actually looking for books & verses referring to the Rapture.
Kind regards,
Sonia.
"... male and female created..." "...he them."
So if he/them is actually a dynamic, or dichotomy,(the age old us vs them battle) ,instead of the face value, simple translation I have always interpreted as ancient people talking funny and putting words in the wrong place.
so god made man, then made woman and when male and female communed they made god in the world instead of just above"
I'm trying to unlearn and relearn. Anyone have any ideas