Apologies, my last sentence should have read, "Though I suppose if someone is strict about this matter, then for conscience sake they would avoid any fruit that has seed within it, regardless as to whether at some point earlier, the fruit was actually produced from a seed & had seeds in it."
That was an interesting discovery, Ceyz. Most of our fruit & vegetables today are either grown from seed or have seed in them. There are instances where a very few manage to fruit without fertilization or where farmers/scientists have genetically modified the plant to produce another variety with no seed. However, I wonder whether any of these existed when God created the vegetation for the Earth & therefore gave that declaration, "the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." And whether God didn't anticipate us modifying His creation when He made that declaration? Or, could it mean that in the original creation as for any plant today, there must have been a time when the existence of that plant was from a seed & it produced seed in its natural survival of its species? Though I suppose if someone is strict about this matter, then for conscience sake they would avoid any fruit that has no evident seed within it, regardless as to whether at some point earlier, the fruit was actually produced from a seed & had seeds in it.
One thing that everyone seems to miss when talking about plants and fruits is that Gen 1:29 states that only seeds bearing plants and fruits with seeds are for food. Which implies that if the fruit has no seed we shall not eat.
you seem to be very intelligent but it is so difficult to answer all your questions at the same time and non productive as generally try to explain many things at the same time is confusing; and often you need to use references to verses and I i'm not use to do that; however some of your questions, the first are science, very general science in fact; and of course I have heard of these things but never in the manner or forms of questions as you have put it;Take the first question for example:
If the Moon is a light, as God proclaims it to be - how come NASA claim they have been walking around on it!? You must be joking. It reflex light; and so it gives light; and everyone knows it is solid; as for NASA, ask them, However, there is nothing wrong with jokes but i never seen joking on so many questions especially all at the same time of seriously looking for serious information on the Bible; and it seems to me, not the thing to do; as for those other questions; I couldn't refer you to appropriate verses.
Peter Grant Budgewoi Australia on Genesis 1:16 - 3 years ago
I ask this simple question - If the Moon is a light, as God proclaims it to be - how come NASA claim they have been walking around on it!?
Also, if the light of the Moon is supposedly reflected sunlight - Why is it colder in the moons light than in its shadow? (Not a theory - But a proven fact)
Furthermore - When I observe the Sun and the Moon in view at certain times - With the Sun fully risen in the East - Why is the Moon only partially lit in the West?
Should it not be fully lit if there is no interference from the so called GLOBE Earth?
"Debating cosmology of the creation of Yahweh has zero to do with salvation I readily admit -
But all to do with DECEPTION!
In Mat 24:3,4
When the disciples asked the Lord - "What will be the sign of your coming and the end of the world - He simply said - take heed no man deceive you - YES! i understand he was talking about false Christ's.
But regardless, deception is designed to deceive! And it presents its self in a multitude of ways.
What I am simply trying to point out is this - If this so called "Giant step for mankind" on a so called solid surface of the Moon is presented as fact - Then what do we do with Yahweh's words of truth in Gen 1:16 that states, it is a LIGHT ( Check out what Wesley's comment about light!)
PLEASE!!! - If you cannot reply with fact or scripture - I won't waste my time in reply!
Sarcasm and ridicule were never attributed our Savior - So if you proclaim to be a Christian Please follow his example!
My ultimate result from anything I post is simply this - "What is the TRUTH" and weed out DECEPTION- "Ignorance is no excuse - If an alternate point of view is presented - And willfully ignored!"
As I said before - If anyone can give me fact and or Scripture to prove what I believe is wrong, then the truth will set me free! - If you cannot, all I ask is you have an open mind to research what I have said - Then I pray, the truth will set you free!!
Peter- message to all of u on Genesis 1:25 - 3 years ago
These comments are fab, back to my story I love bibles because they make me smile and make me happy and I have a couple of bibles. I have a comment I love genesis 3 let there be light.
To get a true understanding of the Bible, you must first pray and ask the Holy Spirit to guide you (your mind) into all truth. We cannot read the Bible like any other book. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned (understood) 1 Cor. 2:14, last part. If you don't ask Him into your study, there is an enemy who will be very happy to show you things the way he wants you to see them. You don't want that. That is called deception, and it's on the highest order, coming from him. The devil knows his KJV of the Bible better than most people. I will pray for all of you so you will remember to ask Him - first, to lead & guide you as you study & read. The Bible (KJV) is God's word to all of us. We Must read it and understand what we read so that it will become a part of our daily lives. We also need a very serious relationship with God (in these last days), to have Jesus' Righteous character given to us. We must Know God to be saved. John 17:3. I hope this comment helps.
I don'i read much because of my bad eye sight ; but I always thought that God put together leaves to make a covering for the private areas of Adam and Eve;. Actually, He used skins.
Thanks for those great comments, Peter. Indeed, as we get older, there's no better way to keep both mind & spirit alert & active, than by studying & searching the Scriptures: both for knowledge & that special ministry from the Holy Spirit. There are many things that we will never fully comprehend from the Word, & those who are particularly skilled/gifted to examine Scriptures, do offer extra insight into our study or questions arising from it.
I'll look forward to seeing further comments from you here, as I do with all others, & may the Lord help you in your endeavours to know Him better.
as a perfect earth just can suddenly stop from being perfect by creating weeds and when God says he is going to do something; he sure does it; and so why not take what you gave to man and bring it right to the opposite to teach him for the benefit of man. He did it with the flood and so why not continue to make it difficult if they continue to sin and we know that every time the earth is threaten with plagues etc; after that there is usually a revival of Christianity. I don't know about other one God religions although I would expect the the same thing there
The other day I read that "Scientists of evolution base it on theimmutability of species. The idea that each individualspecieson the planet was specially created by God (and could never fundamentally change") I bracketed the part I disagree with; as God never said that; and conditions and foods and friendliness changed greatly since that. The ecology is not the same at all. Man and animals had to eat meat after that and some animals, as we can see today became very vicious and successful at killing for food and today, there is even a constant battle for survival in nature; everything is all quite different than the peaceful compatible Garden of Eden.
All Adam and Eve had was leaves for a small piece of cloth that God made so that they could cover them selves; and with that he had to leave the garden and he never even knew how to build a fire. I don't even know if he knew what fire was.
I don't know where evolutionists got that our how they figured it out but they were wrong to base something on that and also to teach it; as when it comes to the Bible; I have read Genesis chapters 1, 2 and 3 often; but after that; generations of people get complicated to me but I know about the common things like Noah's flood and as someone pointed out; that was the first time it rained and that in itself would have changed a lot of things.
So, in conclusion, animals and even man would have changed but basically man is still as he was created except he ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and he has being developing his thinking and his mind ever since. I wonder was it Adam who discovered fire and use it. I don't think so.
Conditions had to start to go right down hill from a perfect earth to the caveman stage and thru science; we know that cave men invented fire and started to cook meat; and advanced too as we are today. God said to Adam how the land would give weeds etc but he did not say that that would happen immediately; and so it would happen slowly as a perfect
Chris; Thank you for your comments and for sure, it would be interesting and I would get a lot of good info but unfortunately; it would be to difficult to do considering my age and health; but nevertheless; I enjoy this christian site and the comments and I do like giving my comments on what I am familiar with; namely Genesis chapters 1, 2 and 3; the ten commandments; and the usually things that most people are familiar with as we learned it in childhood, and I also love listening to Hymns especially with the history; some very interesting stories; Fanny Crosbie for example. She was fantastic. All is well with my soul; another fantastic storya treasure of hymns and stories.
In regard to words, verses; searching on site and on the internet; and interpretations of these things; these things are no doubt important and the words we pick are extremely important as if we do not pick the most appropriate words; then we do not get the most appropriate answers; and very few people get the same answers if they do not put the time in on it; and in fact study the whole Bible; and even then; there are questions for example on what should we eat as when we were created; we were suppose to eat plant based foods, etc.: and of course; I see comments on these things and often look at any references; and lately I used the search feature to check things that I am interested in; and I was surprised to find one thing that changed my view of one of the things that I had doubt on and never meant to comment on but forgot and did. So that made me realize that I should be checking for myself instead of waiting until I see some one else's comments to straighten me out. It made me feel lazy. ; the one thing that I don't want to be and can't afford to be.
Once again, Thank you for your comments and help in understanding the Bible
Peter, that would be an interesting exercise to pursue & I'm sure you will gather a whole lot of good information, though it might take you a long while. The only thing of course, is that you would need to exercise wisdom in what you're reading; i.e. sometimes words, or verses, may have other meanings that may cloud your focus on a particular word. Or the word you choose, might be expressed by another word. So, you could start off by typing a word, e.g. Heaven, in the 'Search the Bible' box at the top left of the main page & see where the word appears all over the OT & NT & read around that verse. But, bear in mind, that heaven is also referred to as 'sky' or heavenlies, as the worlds in the universe. So, you need to be aware of that as well & include that in your search.
Or, 'angels': they can be the inhabitants/messengers of Heaven or those come in human form (e.g. to Abraham, to Lot's house, who wrestled with Jacob, whom we might entertain unawares, etc.), so there are inferences here too. Often, even using the internet to do a search can bring up useful results. But nothing better than to systematically read the Bible from cover to cover & make notes to accomplish your goals.
I am fascinated by Genesis 1 and 2 and I have tried to interpret various verses always saying that we should look at them in context meaning along with the other verses in the chapter; however; now i think that along with that; it should be in context with other related verses in the Bible; and I always said that maybe the Bible and God does not tell us everything; but now I think that maybe it does; if I indeed could do that; and some people are good at it; I see their references and comments; and I always appreciate them; and I usually or generally check them; and indeed do like reading them; but I am generally not good at doing that and sometimes get a bit hazy or it sometimes confuses me; however; starting at 1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. I wonder what i would find if i were to read all the other verses in the Bible connected with what He put in the Heaven at that time; and some of those things of course are mentioned in Genesis 1 and 2 but I wonder what else because i know that there were angels in Heaven but I always assumed that when we died; that was what we became plus I have heard about the archangel etc. and now that too probably should be considered, I think, in interpreting these first 5 verses, for example, and i think that I would also need more information I think that is available in the Bible for interpretations on Adam and Eve and who sinned ...etc.
Thank you, for your comment; I really appreciate it as I did not even know where it was in the Bible and it is so interesting because it says He will be in their midst; and I really believe that. He is with us in spirit as you have explained it; and also we can rejoice as our prayers and praise are always heard; but it can be difficult for some people who can not find other christians to pray with; and I know that there are some and maybe many who have problems and I also believe that at least some of them; takes it to the Lord in prayer; but they still need other christians to pray with; and I don't know if they have that
Steve, yes, we must take care with all of the blessings we have from God and give thanks daily for His many blessings. But what does driving cars have to do with covid 19?
While it is practical and conservative to keep your personal and collective environment as clean as possible; SIN is the real pollutant! We are not only guilty of sin, but great sins such as blasphemy, abortion and sodomy, which God has called evil, mankind has called good! God will not be mocked!!
Do not doubt that this earth will remain as long as it serves HIS purposes. This should give you comfort! If the covid crisis brings more fish to the net...I say Hallelujah!!
Peter, he most definitely hears your prayers, even if you (& so many others) pray on their own. The only requirement is to come in faith, believing you will receive, as you ask in God's Will. Where Jesus says that where two or three are gathered in My Name, He adds, that He will be in their midst ( Mt 18:20) certainly applied to his disciples as Jesus in His Power could meet with them in Spirit. However, we use this verse now for believers meeting together, & though in a sense correct, we know from Scripture, that Jesus has left this Earth & as God in the flesh, is seated at the Father's Right Hand, always interceding on our behalf. So Jesus physically can't be with us when we meet, but His Spirit, Whom He has sent to us, is with us & in us ( Jn 14:17). In all this, we can truly rejoice that we are never alone & our prayers & praise are always heard.
I now know that the Adam made used the leaves to make a covering and that God used skins to do so.
Thank you and please comment to me again of you think that I have what God made wrong.
If the Moon is a light, as God proclaims it to be - how come NASA claim they have been walking around on it!? You must be joking. It reflex light; and so it gives light; and everyone knows it is solid; as for NASA, ask them, However, there is nothing wrong with jokes but i never seen joking on so many questions especially all at the same time of seriously looking for serious information on the Bible; and it seems to me, not the thing to do; as for those other questions; I couldn't refer you to appropriate verses.
Also, if the light of the Moon is supposedly reflected sunlight - Why is it colder in the moons light than in its shadow? (Not a theory - But a proven fact)
Furthermore - When I observe the Sun and the Moon in view at certain times - With the Sun fully risen in the East - Why is the Moon only partially lit in the West?
Should it not be fully lit if there is no interference from the so called GLOBE Earth?
"Debating cosmology of the creation of Yahweh has zero to do with salvation I readily admit -
But all to do with DECEPTION!
In Mat 24:3,4
When the disciples asked the Lord - "What will be the sign of your coming and the end of the world - He simply said - take heed no man deceive you - YES! i understand he was talking about false Christ's.
But regardless, deception is designed to deceive! And it presents its self in a multitude of ways.
What I am simply trying to point out is this - If this so called "Giant step for mankind" on a so called solid surface of the Moon is presented as fact - Then what do we do with Yahweh's words of truth in Gen 1:16 that states, it is a LIGHT ( Check out what Wesley's comment about light!)
PLEASE!!! - If you cannot reply with fact or scripture - I won't waste my time in reply!
Sarcasm and ridicule were never attributed our Savior - So if you proclaim to be a Christian Please follow his example!
My ultimate result from anything I post is simply this - "What is the TRUTH" and weed out DECEPTION- "Ignorance is no excuse - If an alternate point of view is presented - And willfully ignored!"
As I said before - If anyone can give me fact and or Scripture to prove what I believe is wrong, then the truth will set me free! - If you cannot, all I ask is you have an open mind to research what I have said - Then I pray, the truth will set you free!!
God's Blessing to all who read this
Peter Mcaleer
peter Mcaleer
hope, faith, trust, expectation, and a good bible
your sincerely
Peter Mcaleer
Peter Mcaleer
To get a true understanding of the Bible, you must first pray and ask the Holy Spirit to guide you (your mind) into all truth. We cannot read the Bible like any other book. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned (understood) 1 Cor. 2:14, last part. If you don't ask Him into your study, there is an enemy who will be very happy to show you things the way he wants you to see them. You don't want that. That is called deception, and it's on the highest order, coming from him. The devil knows his KJV of the Bible better than most people. I will pray for all of you so you will remember to ask Him - first, to lead & guide you as you study & read. The Bible (KJV) is God's word to all of us. We Must read it and understand what we read so that it will become a part of our daily lives. We also need a very serious relationship with God (in these last days), to have Jesus' Righteous character given to us. We must Know God to be saved. John 17:3. I hope this comment helps.
I'll look forward to seeing further comments from you here, as I do with all others, & may the Lord help you in your endeavours to know Him better.
and so it would happen slowly
as a perfect earth just can suddenly stop from being perfect by creating weeds and when God says he is going to do something; he sure does it; and so why not take what you gave to man and bring it right to the opposite to teach him for the benefit of man. He did it with the flood and so why not continue to make it difficult if they continue to sin and we know that every time the earth is threaten with plagues etc; after that there is usually a revival of Christianity. I don't know about other one God religions although I would expect the the same thing there
All Adam and Eve had was leaves for a small piece of cloth that God made so that they could cover them selves; and with that he had to leave the garden and he never even knew how to build a fire. I don't even know if he knew what fire was.
I don't know where evolutionists got that our how they figured it out but they were wrong to base something on that and also to teach it; as when it comes to the Bible; I have read Genesis chapters 1, 2 and 3 often; but after that; generations of people get complicated to me but I know about the common things like Noah's flood and as someone pointed out; that was the first time it rained and that in itself would have changed a lot of things.
So, in conclusion, animals and even man would have changed but basically man is still as he was created except he ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and he has being developing his thinking and his mind ever since. I wonder was it Adam who discovered fire and use it. I don't think so.
Conditions had to start to go right down hill from a perfect earth to the caveman stage and thru science; we know that cave men invented fire and started to cook meat; and advanced too as we are today. God said to Adam how the land would give weeds etc but he did not say that that would happen immediately; and so it would happen slowly as a perfect
In regard to words, verses; searching on site and on the internet; and interpretations of these things; these things are no doubt important and the words we pick are extremely important as if we do not pick the most appropriate words; then we do not get the most appropriate answers; and very few people get the same answers if they do not put the time in on it; and in fact study the whole Bible; and even then; there are questions for example on what should we eat as when we were created; we were suppose to eat plant based foods, etc.: and of course; I see comments on these things and often look at any references; and lately I used the search feature to check things that I am interested in; and I was surprised to find one thing that changed my view of one of the things that I had doubt on and never meant to comment on but forgot and did. So that made me realize that I should be checking for myself instead of waiting until I see some one else's comments to straighten me out. It made me feel lazy. ; the one thing that I don't want to be and can't afford to be.
Once again, Thank you for your comments and help in understanding the Bible
Or, 'angels': they can be the inhabitants/messengers of Heaven or those come in human form (e.g. to Abraham, to Lot's house, who wrestled with Jacob, whom we might entertain unawares, etc.), so there are inferences here too. Often, even using the internet to do a search can bring up useful results. But nothing better than to systematically read the Bible from cover to cover & make notes to accomplish your goals.
Thank you, for your comment; I really appreciate it as I did not even know where it was in the Bible and it is so interesting because it says He will be in their midst; and I really believe that. He is with us in spirit as you have explained it; and also we can rejoice as our prayers and praise are always heard; but it can be difficult for some people who can not find other christians to pray with; and I know that there are some and maybe many who have problems and I also believe that at least some of them; takes it to the Lord in prayer; but they still need other christians to pray with; and I don't know if they have that
While it is practical and conservative to keep your personal and collective environment as clean as possible; SIN is the real pollutant! We are not only guilty of sin, but great sins such as blasphemy, abortion and sodomy, which God has called evil, mankind has called good! God will not be mocked!!
Do not doubt that this earth will remain as long as it serves HIS purposes. This should give you comfort! If the covid crisis brings more fish to the net...I say Hallelujah!!