Genesis Chapter 1 Discussion Page 3



 
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Hello S. Spencer,

    Thanks for asking about Brian and his wife Elfe.

    I heard from him a few days ago when they arrived in Mecca. The had visited the Great Mosque. he sent a picture of he and Elfe.

    Please continue to pray for them. Her mom is with them, too. Please pray that the Spirit of God will cause a revulsion within them for the things of Islam, revealing to them that this is a false religion that has deceived millions. Pray that, seeing these things of Islam, the Holy Spirit will remind Brian of the truths of Scripture that he was brought up on and change his heart to embrace the Lord and reject Islam. Pray that Elfe's heart will be changed and opened to receive what the Holy Spirit wishes to bring to her-regeneration and faith in Jesus. Pray that her parents will be moved by the Holy Spirit to turn from Islam to Christ.

    And pray that Elfe's VISA to come to the U.S. permanently will soon be approved.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Hi Gigi.

    How's Brian and the family?

    Have you heard from them?
  • Mel8 - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Yes ! So many people have a massive problem admitting that they got something wrong in this world and in their spiritual life . Why this is I don't know , it must be pride . Does anyone really believe that they always get everything right first time ? Anyone who believes that is genuinely an idiot . If we can't accept correction wherever it comes from then we get stuck , entrenched in error that just gets harder and harder for us to get out of as time passed . You are right , the key is to be open to correction indeed , to welcome it , that's how we grow , grow closer to our God which surely is the desire of us all ? To obtain His acceptance not the praise of each other .
  • Jesse - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Ruby Lea Read,

    It is a blessing to be humbled by God. What you said reminds me of what James tells us in James 4:6.

    God gives more (or greater) grace. Wherefore he says, and this is Proverbs 3:34, God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.



    Proverbs 3:34 is found three times in the New Testament. It's a very important and popular verse. God resists the proud. Who are the proud?



    There are two things about the word for proud. Number one, a person filled with pride is self-centered.



    Now by that, the word means that you are centered on yourself whether you think you are somebody great, or you think you're somebody like a failure.



    It's the high or the low, high self-esteem, or low self-esteem, you're still focused on yourself. It's still pride.

    The other thing about the word for pride is self-reliance. This is the person that uses their human resources to live their life and satisfy their problems. And for them, maybe when they run out of human resources, they might call on God.



    God resists the proud, the person who is relying on their human resources, who is self-centered and self-motivated. God will resist that person. But He gives grace to the humble. And the word humble is the person who has been made low, just like we see in James Chapter 1.



    Why does God resist the proud? God is bringing that person to a position where they need God's grace. God only gives His grace to the lowly.



    If a person is self-centered and self-reliant, God has to oppose them so that they turn around and become dependent upon the Lord. But He only gives His grace to the humble!

    So, as it says in James 4:5, God has given me a spirit that dwells in me that lusts to envy. The word spirit is no doubt the human spirit that God has given us. The human spirit in us lusts to envy.

    But God has greater grace because He'll resist me. And He'll give me His grace when I'm humbled!

    May the Lord continue to bless you also!
  • Jesse - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Amen Ronald,

    We do learn from each other and we should be open. I definitely agree with that. You have been on here for several years now and you always have a lot of knowledge to share and I for one do appreciate you. We may not always be in complete agreement on everything, and we shouldn't expect to be. I have no expectations of people agreeing to everything I share. That is all any of us can do, is share what we have studied on our own, what we believe to be true, and share those things here with others.

    We all believe (or at least we should) that Gods word alone is truth. That's how I see it. It's not what I say, and not what I believe to be true. I can tell someone "This is what the Bible says," and yes, it does say that. But I always have to keep in mind that my understanding of what I believe it says can be faulty. Nevertheless, Gods word alone is true.

    But yes, we need to keep on studying, and coming here and sharing what we have learned can be a fruitful experience. I trust that the Lord will be there at all times to let us know if we are right or wrong.

    I think sometimes God allows us to hash things out before showing us. And sometimes I have to wonder whether it's me in a back and forth discussion about a disagreement, or any two believers for that matter, if the Lord is up there with His arms crossed, laughing at us, and saying "You know something, you're both wrong."

    I believe that is always a possibility. Blessings to you my brother. Keep sharing!
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Hey Jesse,

    Thanks, I appreciate that, I agree it is not a contest, we learn from each other. We should be open to other understandings and humble to study for the truth and be thankful if we are shown it. Like I told S Spencer I can see both views, but I have not been able to fit it into Revelation and the scriptures line up. That is why we were told to study.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Jesse - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Hello Ronald,

    Thank you for sharing this information for my consideration. I have read the account of the 70 AD destruction of the temple. The things Antiochus IV Epiphanes was the inspiration for the Maccabean Revolt.

    Some people think that when Jesus mentions in Matthew 24:15 "there shall be an abomination of desolation" is that's what they called it when Antiochus IV Epiphanes, back in 165 B.C., put up his image.



    Yeah, it happened once before. But in Matthew, this is a future event, not to be confused with that event. This is something that must happen in the future.

    I know this is one of the most debated topics amongst believers, but like you, I am not looking for debate either.

    I believe that all prophecy concerning the end time is based on Daniel 9:24-27. I also believe that the misunderstanding of the prophecies of the last days is based upon combining Luke's account with Matthew's and Mark's account as if they are the same message. From what I have read, they are not the same message.

    Looking at what Jesus said in Matthew 23:38, I understand that was fulfilled 38 years later in 70 A.D., when Titus the Roman General rode into Jerusalem and killed 1,600,000 Jews. He leveled the city, including the temple, just as Jesus said they would. Why?



    Because they rejected their Messiah and even to this day, they no longer do sacrifice. That is because there is only one place that they can sacrifice and it is in Jerusalem, which is why the Jews don't sacrifice today.

    But there will come a time in the future when the antichrist arrives on the scene, and he is going to help the Jews rebuild their temple in Jerusalem. And he's going to help them start sacrifices up again. And then right in the middle of the tribulation period, right in the middle of the 70th week, he is going to set up his image in the Holy of holies, and he is going to say that everybody must worship him.

    Again, thank you for what you've shared.

    God bless!
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Hi Jesse,

    Not to debate just something to consider.

    I know many have this understanding of this abomination of desolation and applying it to Daniel 9:27. As you said it is in Daniel 9:27 Daniel 11:31 and Daniel 12:11 and only in 11:31 and 12:11 does it say the abomination that maketh desolate.

    As what happened in 167 BC with Antiochus Epiphanies committed two blasphemous acts in the second Jewish temple by setting up an altar to the Greek god Zeus and also, he sacrificed a pig on the altar, and much more, that is thought something similar will happen in the future with the antichrist.

    The abomination of desolation is this horrible person or beast that will do this action that is vile, vicious or terrible in the temple that is said to be rebuilt that makes it desolate. This being is the one who does the act to make it desolate.

    If we look at Daniel 9:27 it says, "for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate." For the overspreading of abominations, this is saying because of abominations they have done, he shall make it desolate, not what he does makes it desolate.

    Jesus disrobes this in Matthew 23:24-37, and He says what we read in Daniel 9:27. Matthew 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. For their abominations Jesus is the one who makes it desolate for the overspreading of abominations they have done and their rejection of Him. "and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. The Roman army and total destruction.

    I agree they may flee from Judea in the future they did just before 70 AD the believers in Jesus fled to Pella a region across the Jordan river and were saved.

    Just something to consider.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Jesse - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Ruth,

    Daniel mentions this in three places, Daniel 9:27, 11:31, and 12:11. Jesus mentions it in Matthew 24:15.

    In Matthew 24:15, Jesus is talking to Jews who are familiar with their Old Testament scriptures in the book of Daniel.

    In Matthew 24:16, Jesus gives instructions to the Jews on what to do when they see the abomination of desolation. Whenever those things in Verse 15 happen, Jesus says, let them which be in where? In Judea, because this is for the Jews. He says let those who are in Judea flee into the mountains.

    The abomination of desolation is when the antichrist helps the Jews to start their sacrifices again. The bible says he is going to help the Jews to restart their sacrificing.



    And then right in the middle of the tribulation period (approximately the 3-1/2 year mark), he is going to step in and put his image in the holy of holies. And he is going to say that everybody has to worship him. And he's going to corrupt the temple. And he's going to take over.



    Jesus says that when you see that happen, when he puts up his image in the Holy of holies, He says flee, get out of there, because the great tribulation (the last 3-1/2 years), this pivotal point, is only a one activity event. Once that happens, then it is the great tribulation, like the world has never seen.

    Here's something interesting I would like to share with you: In Verse 16, Jesus tells the Jews to flee into the mountains. This is recorded for us in Revelation Chapter 12 Verse 6. Isaiah says it is the Rock city of Petra.

    The Jordanians went into the Rock city of Petra not too long ago and fixed it up as a tourist attraction. They put in nice restrooms and everything for the tourists.

    As it stands today, the rock city of Petra has enough empty housing to house 250,000 people, plenty of room for the Jews who are told to flee. Maybe God had a hand in this? I'm sure the Jews in the middle of the tribulation period are going to say "thank you very much!"
  • Ruth on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    What is the abomination spoken of in the book of Danial?
  • Adam - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Leviticus 20:13

    1 Corinthians 6:9-11

    Hello, God hates sin, but loves people despite them often choosing to sin. We need Jesus. That is the only way to salvation. But there's a trick satan has done to convince people that their sin is their identity. And if their identity, how dare anyone question it, right? When people like a certain sin, some assume that's "who they are" they are "born to do it" so how dare anyone judge them? That's one of the biggest lies. The biggest question is who do you want to follow: God or satan. If satan you can't go to heaven. Whose morals will you follow: God's or the world's? Which is most important social acceptance on this temporary earth or to please God?

    I don't think anyone is born with a proclivity to do any sin. Babies are not interested in the sick things some adults choose to do. They definitely aren't born to do that. It's all learned and often groomed by parents and others. Lately, we've seen the goal posts continue to move to now include pedophilia and it is absolutely disgusting seeing people trying to push this evil. The "news" is trying to convince others that they're "born that way" to do that to kids. It's satanic to try to normalize the harming of children like we're seeing. Never thought I'd be seeing what I'm seeing. End times must be near. The world is very dark and evil and they hide all the harm they are causing others.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Barbara,

    I would say that God hates homosexuality but loves the homosexual, if that makes sense.

    In God's eyes, homosexuality is considered a sinful lifestyle, but for the person involved in this lifestyle, God loves them enough to give them the opportunity to repent and turn away from it.
  • Barbara Elizabeth Pye on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Dose Almighty God and Jesus hate homosexuals and homosexuality?
  • Jesse - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Kilgore,

    That is a good question. This is given to us in the creation account ( Genesis 1:1-5). In Verse 2, the earth was still in darkness, no light, no Sun, and no day yet. In Genesis 1:3, God said, Let there be light: and there was light. It's not until Verse 5 that God called the light day, after the creation of light.

    I know this is just a short generic answer, but I hope it answers your question.
  • Kilgore on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    How did God know what a day was if there was no

    Sun?
  • Littlesooz - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    God bless you too, Ronald

    I would agree with your reply. I think the "beginning" declared by Moses would be the starting point of what we know now. It is crucial that we know who gave us our beginning. God, who has no beginning did. His only begotten son came to earth to defeat the works of the devil and we seem to be part of that plan as we are the reason Jesus went to the cross. He has defeated all the sin and death caused by Satan there and he will eventually cast him into the Lake of Fire. It is all so amazing to be able to know even the bit we do know of the wonderful creator of the universe.

    Littlesooz
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Hi Littlesooz,

    I agree we do not know what was before because it is not written, we only have the scriptures. All we can do is speculate which to me has no answers or end to what it could be. What would be the reason to venture or believe this earth was inhabited before the six days of creation we are given?

    God has no beginning so what beginning would be in verse 1? I understand the beginning to be what is throughout scripture is God's plan for us and whether He had other plans before us, that is for Him to know. That's just me, thanks for your reply.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Rick Colombe - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    The KJV was translated from the received text the Textus Receptus ( my spelling may be off ), while the more modern versions used the Alexandrian scrolls, which were proven incorrect and NOT inspired by the Holy Ghost. God can touch someone's heart reading a newspaper, even so, the Authorized King James Version is the closest and most accurate translation in English we have of God's Word.

    I would be cautious if reading other modern translations ie. such as " The Max Lucado" study bible, as they are NOT His Word. Let God be true and be every man a liar.
  • Jimbob - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    The KJB is the pure Words of the LORD that was promised to be preserve for ever!
  • Littlesooz - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    You are correct, God created the earth only once. According to verse two it became "without form and void". It was that chaotic mass that was used by God (same earth, messed up) when he renewed it. Verse one tells us that God created the heavens and the earth. It does not tell us anywhere when that was, we have no date for that. There will be another recreating of the earth for the millennial kingdom when the beasts of the earth become benign so it is not a stretch to believe that God did it once already.

    Blessings :)
  • T Levis - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    There are many articles written on why KJV is most popular.

    KJV 1611

    You can search on Brave online
  • Iqra Toqeer on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    What made King James Bible so popular over the other version?
  • MARY WOOD on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    In what book:chapter and verse is whales talked about?
  • Constance Versie on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Yes I have a Bible but I am looking for a older version.
  • Alex1939 - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Hiya John Good Question....In my mind i see this Gen 1...to replenish as when the sower of the good seed will go forth and sow his precious seed in humanity...The field being the world...God had this replenishing in his mind when he made that great Promise that Christ was gona be multiplied as the stars of heaven....As Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains Jeremiah 30:6 ....For that heavenly Birth....As the mystery of the Kingdom of God is Christ in you and I...Us sinners that need to be bornagain of Jesus's incorruptible seed...Via the seeds of that Book that New Covenant that Jesus wrote with his own blood...Thus there is gonna be an Israel of God...Which are spirits as Jesus said that which is born of the spirit are spirits Which answer to the Children of Promise the H.G....Thus our new hearts and new Spirits...I will pour out of my Spirit on all flesh... Rev 11:15...This is the replenishing.. The Kingdoms of this world have become the Kingdoms of our lord and his Christ...And he shall reign for ever and ever..No more Adamic nature...No more stain and spot of Adam...What Jesus did at Calvary is gonna replenish all of humanity...If i be lifted up i will DRAW ALL MEN UNTO ME....OK Lemme go. When Jesus said its finished this whole world is gonna be replenished...
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Hi John John,

    In Genesis 1:28 the Hebrew word male or mala is translated as replenish; some have used this translation to support the gap theory, also known as the Ruin-Reconstruction theory, which involves the necessity for God to recreate and re-fill the earth as a result of a so-called Lucifer's flood.

    Replenish is an Old English word that was used to mean fill, from the thirteenth to the seventeenth centuries. The view of fill repeatedly, thus fills completely, to make full, like a bucket of water. My understanding is God created the earth and the universe only once. All mankind and land animals were destroyed in the flood but the animals and the eight that were on the ark. All mankind today are descendants of Adam and Eve.

    The question was Adam and Eve the first people? Most will say yes, they are the man, male and female on day six. Study for your understanding.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • John John on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Question I thought Adam and Eve were the first people on Earth in Genesis 28 what does it Meen when God says to replenish the Earth?
  • Alex1939 - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Hi Sandra...GBU...But i think you are refering to Salvation via faith as Faith comes by hearing his voice his words etc...Its Jesus that has to sow his good seed in our hearts that forms Christ in us...Gal.4:19 my Children of whom i travail in birth till Christ is formed in you...And that Child is gona grow whether we like it or not...Its the H.G. that grows with in us...He is our new innerman our new hearts and new spirits etc...He increases in statue just like his fleshly counter part does...God gives it the increase according to his will...Its gotta come forth in 3 measures, 1st the Baby then the Son then the fulfness of the Godhead in the Son...We all have to come into the fulness of the statue of Christ with in us...Christ in you the hope of glory.

    Faith is like a spirtual Pregnancy....Simply b/c we have the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen...The Substance of a kingdom and the evidence of a baby Christ in us which is the H.G. As Jesus said that which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. thus it cannot be seen...But we know we got it b/c we can feel him moving in our spirits.... Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for ( the fetus ) The evidence of things not seen...( a baby Christ the Kingdom ).. As Jesus said unless you receive the Kingdom as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in..Thats y the new birth is so important.

    Thats y he always refered to himself as the Son of Man...Simply b/c mankind needs to bring forth fruit unto God which is the H.G. that Child of Promise... Romans 7 :4...But we have to go thru a war with the Tares Satans Seed...Thats y Jesus said there will be Kingdom against Kingdom..The Kingdom of Heaven suffers violence simply b/c of the wheat and the Tares are at war...And this war rages with in us...In our hearts and minds...The 2 men in 1 bed is just 1 man that is at war with the Tares Wheat n the Tares..Thats y we must endure to the end th Harvest..1 taken 1 left.GB
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Hi Sandra. T. Levis has given you some great Scriptures. I would add that: yes, we do need to pay attention to our lives, that they are well-pleasing to the Lord & our communion with Him through the Word & prayer equally important, we know that it is God, by His Spirit, Who causes spiritual growth ( Philippians 2:13). And 'His Will & His good pleasure' is that we grow into the likeness of His Son.

    Those IN Christ, must always be growing, certainly not stagnant or backsliding. And a part of that growth is learning from our experiences & the Lord's dealing with us in our daily walk with Him. We need to be mindful of this & not discount them as something that happens to everyone, or as some would say, 'just our good luck'. Those in Christ are continually ministered to by God's Spirit - all that He allows in our life, whether good or ill, will be for a reason & often unexpected. Those particularly in Christian service in hard areas, as well as those facing struggles in day-to-day living, very often see the Hand of God moving on their behalf.

    Some of my more spectacular experiences were on the mission field that certainly brought me closer to my Father & to trust Him for even greater things. And He will do for you also as you give, even your 'little faith' fully to Him. Once, when driving to a particular area in a S. Asian country, a brother in Christ who was also the driver, did all the right things to indicate a U turn. But the motor cyclist behind us, too eager to overtake us when he saw a gap, connected with our vehicle & went for a mighty fall. We were concerned for him & the outcome, as usually this never ends well in that part of the world. But the Lord was there: that man saw in a dream that he would be in an accident but didn't know the outcome. That his life was spared gave him much cause to rejoice & hug us all (this wouldn't normally happen after an accident) & my brother also shared Christ with him. We rejoiced greatly as we proved the Lord's intervention.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Dear Verleen, I wanted to get back to you concerning your first inquiry about the two places that God does not abide. Scripture says that God the Father resides in unapproachable light in heaven as I mentioned in my other post. Scripture also says that God's presence fills the universe, including earth. So, God fills all things with His Presence. Scripture also says that He abides in the believers by the Holy Spirit. Scripture also says that God, our Lord Jesus Christ now sits at the right hand of the Father in Heaven but also resides in believers through the Holy Spirit, also. As Richard said, He even oversees hell, as His Presence is everywhere, hell not excluded.

    But as to the only please that God does not abide is in unbelievers. He is still Presence in believers due to His omnipresence, but He does not abide in unbelievers as He does in believers.

    I would like to list some Scriptures for you to look up on this. I will see how many I can get on this post.

    Dwell: Is.57:15 Is. 8:14 Ex. 25:8 Lev. 26:11 Deut. 26:15 1 Kgs. 8:30 Ps 46:4 Joel 3:4

    Zech.2:11

    Jn. 1:14 Jn. 4:23 Jn. 14:7 Jn. 14:10 2Cor. 6:16 Eph 2:22 Eph.3:16-17 Col. 1:19 1Tim.6:16 2 Tim.1:14

    Heb. 11:9 Rev. 21:3

    Heaven: Gen. 24:3 Ex. 16:4 Jos. 2:11 2 Chr. 6:14 2 Chr. 714 1Kgs. 8:23 1Kgs. 8:27 1Kgs. 8:30 Ps. 2:4

    Ps. 11:4 Ps.73:25 Ps. 108:5 Ps. 115:3 Ps. 115:16 Ps. 139:8 Is. 40:22 Is. 66:1 Jer. 23:24

    Dan.2:19 Mt. 6:9 Mt, 7:21 Lk. 24:51 Jn. 12:28 Acts 7:49 Acts. 7:55 Eph. 1:20 Eph. 4:16 Col. 4:1

    1 Th. 1:10 1 Th. 4:16 Heb. 1:3 1 Pt. 3:22 Rev. 21:2 REv.21:10

    Earth: Is.66:1 Jer. 23:21 Mt. 5:35 Acts 7:49

    Evil: Hab.1:13 Job 34:22 Ps. 119:15 Mt. 7:23 Lk. 13:27

    There are more, but hopefully will support my thoughts.


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