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  • Peter
    Mishael to Peter - in Reply on Genesis 1

    Hi. d give me a bit of time as I'm old and have a few problems however don't stress yourself. You have been blessed and I can tell you the things you have done; a letter to the churches; a song or a hymn, etc. is fantastic Jesus said that the churches was a den of thieves or something and they are even worst today; and the other things you speak about is the war in Heaven, I suspect; So, i will give you a proper reply in a day or so; but for npw can u tell me where to find the Lords pray and the ten commandments; and if you do; You may delay a response for maybe 3 or 4 days but istill would like to have it, meanwhile, take care; and I will as i said , re[ly proprly a later etc,,u know i have bad eyes and am sort of old and can[t type but no worries; it can be dome even properly; also waht is a den of fire or something like that regarding the war in the heavens?

    have a great dau; and was that song in deed called a hymn but u did not want to say so as people may think u are nuts. Waht odds what people think. You know the Bible and your grand mother did also and how about your mom. Did she know it? Mine lived with me; and i have to say; when she dot old, as my cousin lived with his mom all his life and never married; and people thought that there was something wrong with a man like that worth lots of money; and so I have to say when she got old she came to live with me but I was living common law the time and had little money. So I suppose everything was and is okay. Any way have a great day and i will get back to u later. Co,plete and uneditted
  • GA Anointed in Love and Truth for verse 25
    Peter there is a lot of Deception shared as you said because what is missing in their understanding is Gods Wisdom whithout it we cannot understand His Truth or recognise Mans error. Gods Holy Sons Jesus The Living Word and The Holy Ghost who are One with Him in Spirit and have been from Eternity (1 John 5:7KJV) when we ask for and recive Gods Wisdom which none of us were Born with and so we all lack it (James 1:5-8 KJV) They will lead us into all Truth. Blessings G.A.
  • Peter for verse 25
    Deception; I think is what it is really all about

    Also for me, it is about the nature of my research and my thinking, I check it as soon as I think about it. The problem is that I wake up early, when it is still dark, thinking about it and if I don't do it then; I can't remember my thoughts on it in the in the morning. I have research all issues; all in vanity; and it was enjoyable; except I was younger then and now; it is time for good nights of sleeping and a regular life style,

    I once thought that I would become a writer when I got older and that sleeping in the day and writing during the nights; my best hours for thinking would become my lifestyle and that I could do it as God is with me; but I don't think that He minds if I quit because I feel that I have done the job that He trained me to do.

    And I think deception is deceiving people and we know that the Bible does not agree with that. So I would say that it say that we are suppose to discus the Bible of course as Christians as other, of course discus their religions also and in so doing; we can look after one another. Take care that no man deceives you and that you deceives no man; and that is why we discuss scriptures to be sure we do that.

    I did not come to discuss scriptures, I came to do the job that I was trained to do; and I think that I have done that. If I am right on with what I say scriptures say about deception; then I know that my job is done, and it is time for good nights of sleeping and a regular life style,
  • GA Anointed in Love and Truth for verse 25
    Peter there is a lot of Deception shared as you said because what is missing in their understanding is Gods Wisdom whithout it we cannot understand His Truth or recognise Mans error. Gods Holy Sons Jesus The Living Word and The Holy Ghost who are One with Him in Spirit and have been from Eternity (1 John 5:7KJV) when we ask for and recive Gods Wisdom which none of us were Born with and so we all lack it (James 1:5-8 KJV) They will lead us into all Truth. Blessings G.A.
  • Peter Grant Budgewoi Australia for verse 25
    Greetings and God bless you Misheal - I always revert to - How does it compare to what The word Of God says.

    Most of the "Scientists?" believe in a big bang starting life, and Apes turning into humans.

    Strange but I can't seem to find that in any of the bible translations. Another thing I 'll run by you Misheal is this

    They also tell us we are spinning around the Sun and the Moon!

    I read in the Bible - In the beginning God created the heaven (singular) and Earth - The Sun and Moon had not been created until V :16 - what was the Earth spinning around then?

    No Christian has yet to been able to give me CH & V to show me it spins and set my mind at rest, So I keep coming up with questions they would rather not hear All they can muster is Isaiah 40:22 But Hey! a CIRCLE is not a Ball

    Any picture the scientists present are all CGI including the Earth

    what are your thoughts on that Mate?

    I'm not pointing a finger at anybody and saying "You are wrong!" All I want is someone to give me scriptural proof that i am the one that is wrong

    Gods rich blessings to you and your family
  • Peter
    part one in response to Australia Guy

    It is wrong for me to judge you and if you are serious; I will attempt to answer some of your questions and some thing that I can understand about one of the questions, The other thing is that this site has a search block and you can find a lot of things there and also you can easily find all of the previous comments on any issue. I do not know if you have done that but it is nice to know. So your questions.

    Most of the "Scientists?" believe in a big bang - In the beginning God created the heaven (singular) and Earth - The Sun and Moon had not been created until V :16 - what was the Earth spinning around then?

    The big bang was a massive explosion an
  • Peter Grant Budgewoi Australia
    Greetings and God bless - For the past forty years Christ has been my ROCK!
  • Peter for verse 25
    thank you for bringing up about deceptions as i think that that is so important and that you in fact may be trying to do that with all of us as u seem to judge us. Thanks mate and say hello to crocodile dun dee if you know him and his mates but on second thought I doubt if you know him or his mates as you do not seems to be like them, good old fellows mate. Have a good one,
  • Peter Grant Budgewoi Australia for verse 25
    God bless you Mate - Listen, you have got me all wrong I'm not judging anyone - All i am doing is asking questions - Let the word of God be the the judge!

    Croc Dundee lives down the road from me - He is not home at the moment - But I will pass on your message LOL

    blessings, peace and protection to you and your family
  • Peter for verse 25
    Check the scripyure and does it not say that judge not for with what judgement you judge; you will ne judge with. Mishael has no worries mate.] and why have uopu not reploed with that information that i asked you for so I vsn see how and if it fitsd in with scriptures and if you know, as a christiamn ; why will you not h give me what i need to jhelp with my discussions on the bible, Yoiu seems intelligent and i thought that yow woulf know that; but ot does matter; the were only small crature who could stand uprifgt loke humans but hey could not communicar te and did not know m]anythjing and I figure that they just died off. i would vem have an thei ory or iidea on where they may have come from once I check to see how old our planet is which I wouldmsay is the age of the universe, Than u for your comments and please hee mine.
  • Peter Grant Budgewoi Australia for verse 25
    MATE!! - I specifically ask you to be patient, and I would try to answer all your questions - You need to re read MY first email and see what I said

    I to have things to attend to in life, Just like you - I don't sit in front of my PC 24/7

    Also if you make your questions shorter and clearer I can understand you better

    Small Ape people in Australia? Never heard of them - But if there were, they go back to the days of the Nephelim. I suggest you research the cover up of history - Giants and the fallen angels and the sons of God having their way with the daughters of men Genetic manipulation and hybrid beings (Not human) and hybrid animals part human part animal Genesis 6 is a good place to start.That is why God destroyed all living things with the flood - except those on the ark

    A big subject - Too long for emails.

    I suggest you check out research by Steve Quale, Timothy Alberino and Tom Horne Bless you Mate
  • Mishael on the God of the Universe for verse 25
    I'm not the kind of person that points my arthritic fingers ( from drafting 22 yrs) at anyone.

    We can see what we see. To me science is a point of view; beautiful to consider along with scripture. I believe in "let God be true and every man a liar". God doesn't lie to us. All we like sheep have gone astray to other interpretations.

    I was an astrologer for 22 years: so I studied planets and stars. Rather than ask God, I did it myself. I had books of planet movements, forward, retrograde, forward again. All to interpret a seekers life. I wasn't getting rich off it, but I had notoriety. People believed in it through me. It is occult and in the Bible it carries a death sentence. Horoscopes are a lie. They draw us away from what God plans for our life. The stars didn't explain MY life. Then I met our Creator! It's burned into my brain the first time after that, I was sitting on a swing looking at the sky and all I saw was God in his creation! I wept buckets.

    God hung the planets, stars, comets, asteroids and everything to circle the Sun. He orchestrates their movements. Earth is anchored by Him; protected by Him. Pure unadulterated faith in God keeps us safe in his care. The moons travel with the planets they are attached to. Sometimes forward, sometimes fixed, sometimes retrograde. We don't know why, because who can search out what God does? Someday only Gods Light will be our source. Don't you want to see that? A whole new view to be inspired by; with Him as the Creator of inspiration.

    God has been teaching me all of my life since I was a child. I just don't know why. We're not just floating endlessly on this rock we call home: living, dying. Traveling aimlessly through it. Like ants, we don't see the foot thats coming down on us. We've been given the opportunity to search for WHO made all of this. Ants never look up.

    God is Beautiful, through and through. Come and see the Goodness of the Lord!

    Receive Him as Lord and Savior.
  • Linda for verse 25
    That is an awesome testimony. You went your way so God can use you in a great way. Thank you.
  • Peter Grant Budgewoi Australia for verse 25
    Thank you so much - And blessings to you.

    You are one of the few clear thinkers - And willing to think about what is being said in scripture - And don't get all upset when faced alternate points of view - I am definitely all for truth, and blindly follow the religions of men

    God bless to you and your family
  • Peter Grant

    I believe your approach may be backwards.

    The best advice I can give you concerning understanding Scripture was found in a book called "How to Enjoy the Bible, by E.W. Bullinger.

    If you believe in our heavenly Father and His only begotten Son Jesus Christ, then take the leap.

    Read the Bible and BELIEVE it!!!

    Read with common sense. In other words, keep and separate what is literal from what is FIGURATIVE. Not a page of

    God's word can be turned without His use of figurative language.

    Take advantage of Parallel Bibles, Bible Concordances, Bible Dictionaries, Etymological Dictionaries, Bible Commentaries, Lexicons, etc. to enhance your understanding of Scripture. The Bible was NOT written in English.

    Build your foundation of belief.

    Instead of comparing everything you understand of the world and trying to match it up with Scripture, now you can use Scripture to determine whether what you hear in the world is correct or not.

    God Bless you in your journey.
  • Peter Grant Budgewoi Australia for verse 25
    Reading it and believing it is exactly what I am doing!!
  • Peter for verse 25
    Searches related to

    are humans the only animals that can think about their own thinking

    My answer Yes, we are the only animal with a mind.

    are humans the only animalsto have language? No, other animals have repetitious language. Look at a sparrow for example.

    can animals thinkand reason No. animal develop their Brains, repetitiously,

    how doanimals thinkwithout language once again, animals do not think; but they develop their Brain repetitiously and Neuroscientists, evolutionists and genetistist call it thinking as they believe that thinking comes from the brain and people do not have minds.

    can animals thinkarticle no. they see articles and develop then repetitiously;

    Also I call it semiconsciously developments as opposed to subconsciously thinking. My Theory of mind development is sub too conscious to unconscious. Animals are semiconscious too conscious to unconscious. We can do both but generally we only go the the semiconscious stage unless we decide to use repetitions in our development. If we go further than the semiconscious repetitious stage accidentally; we develop disorders. .

    can animals thinkrationally NO; Brains only repetitiously

    what doanimals thinkofhumans,

    depends how repetitious we are, and they are. it depend on we and they but, of course animals do not think but you can develop them repetitiously quite a bit; and they get use to responding to you and others depending on how you treat them;

    however there was a man on twitter who had a bear trained repetitiously and had a picture of the grizzly with his head in the bears mouth. i advise him that that was still a wild animal who any second could eat his head. he was never heard from on twitter after.
  • One thing that everyone seems to miss when talking about plants and fruits is that Genesis 1:29 states that only seeds bearing plants and fruits with seeds are for food. Which implies that if the fruit has no seed we shall not eat.
  • Chris for verse 29
    Apologies, my last sentence should have read, "Though I suppose if someone is strict about this matter, then for conscience sake they would avoid any fruit that has seed within it, regardless as to whether at some point earlier, the fruit was actually produced from a seed & had seeds in it."
  • Chris for verse 29
    That was an interesting discovery, Ceyz. Most of our fruit & vegetables today are either grown from seed or have seed in them. There are instances where a very few manage to fruit without fertilization or where farmers/scientists have genetically modified the plant to produce another variety with no seed. However, I wonder whether any of these existed when God created the vegetation for the Earth & therefore gave that declaration, "the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." And whether God didn't anticipate us modifying His creation when He made that declaration? Or, could it mean that in the original creation as for any plant today, there must have been a time when the existence of that plant was from a seed & it produced seed in its natural survival of its species? Though I suppose if someone is strict about this matter, then for conscience sake they would avoid any fruit that has no evident seed within it, regardless as to whether at some point earlier, the fruit was actually produced from a seed & had seeds in it.
  • Peter Grant Budgewoi Australia for verse 16
    I ask this simple question - If the Moon is a light, as God proclaims it to be - how come NASA claim they have been walking around on it!?

    Also, if the light of the Moon is supposedly reflected sunlight - Why is it colder in the moons light than in its shadow? (Not a theory - But a proven fact)

    Furthermore - When I observe the Sun and the Moon in view at certain times - With the Sun fully risen in the East - Why is the Moon only partially lit in the West?

    Should it not be fully lit if there is no interference from the so called GLOBE Earth?

    "Debating cosmology of the creation of Yahweh has zero to do with salvation I readily admit -

    But all to do with DECEPTION!

    In Matthew 24:3,4

    When the disciples asked the Lord - "What will be the sign of your coming and the end of the world - He simply said - take heed no man deceive you - YES! i understand he was talking about false Christ's.

    But regardless, deception is designed to deceive! And it presents its self in a multitude of ways.

    What I am simply trying to point out is this - If this so called "Giant step for mankind" on a so called solid surface of the Moon is presented as fact - Then what do we do with Yahweh's words of truth in Genesis 1:16 that states, it is a LIGHT ( Check out what Wesley's comment about light!)

    PLEASE!!! - If you cannot reply with fact or scripture - I won't waste my time in reply!

    Sarcasm and ridicule were never attributed our Savior - So if you proclaim to be a Christian Please follow his example!

    My ultimate result from anything I post is simply this - "What is the TRUTH" and weed out DECEPTION- "Ignorance is no excuse - If an alternate point of view is presented - And willfully ignored!"

    As I said before - If anyone can give me fact and or Scripture to prove what I believe is wrong, then the truth will set me free! - If you cannot, all I ask is you have an open mind to research what I have said - Then I pray, the truth will set you free!!

    God's Blessing to all who read this
  • Peter for verse 25
    Thank you for referring me to Job, I loved that chapter. I always thought that job was the man who got sick and when his friends sort of mocked God by saying things to Job; jpb would not against God and in this chapter God says so many things that he knows of course is true whule at the same time He asks Job so much like for example when I prayed years ago " father in heaven i know that when 3 people are gather in your name, you will hear their prayer but i am only one; and have noone to pray with and so i don't if you can hear my prayer???? do you know what he said to me. what would ypu say as I did say that you sound like an intelligent man and you were from Australia. and I wanted to ask you about "the ape people who remains they found in Australia and they were even a couple of millon years older than cave men. Do u know anything about them; and what answer did you have for my first question> What do you mean you didn't know? and after that I changed or he changed me; and i won't tell you or anyone what else he said. It is too frightfull; and i don't think anyone will believe me and i am afraid that they will. would you believe a mental patient? I don't think that i would believe them all without God; and when I consider that; i don't know what i would do? Let me know abput those ape people.
  • Peter for verse 25
    you seem to be very intelligent but it is so difficult to answer all your questions at the same time and non productive as generally try to explain many things at the same time is confusing; and often you need to use references to verses and I i'm not use to do that; however some of your questions, the first are science, very general science in fact; and of course I have heard of these things but never in the manner or forms of questions as you have put it;Take the first question for example:

    If the Moon is a light, as God proclaims it to be - how come NASA claim they have been walking around on it!? You must be joking. It reflex light; and so it gives light; and everyone knows it is solid; as for NASA, ask them, However, there is nothing wrong with jokes but i never seen joking on so many questions especially all at the same time of seriously looking for serious information on the Bible; and it seems to me, not the thing to do; as for those other questions; I couldn't refer you to appropriate verses.
  • Peter for verse 25
    i do not want to add even one word to the Bible; or take one word that is in it away: but I do respond to things that i think I know about and I do make mistakes in typing; and when I said 3 on my last message; I meant 2 as most people would be aware of and so I usually may not repond to obvious errors; and of course, I did respond to an evolutionist remark as I did not agree with that particular remark and ideas as I know that the Bible tells it differently and that the Bible tells the truth. The Bible also says we are born with a mind and the brain does not create the mind as evolutiom believes. They like a lot of other people also don't realize that we only have a tiny mind when we are born and we must develop it and once we are stimulated with enough stimulations to be associated into one thought; you are ready for development and as long as the stimulations are right; you will have a right mind.
  • Peter Grant Budgewoi Australia for verse 25
    Well Pete how are you? - You say I must be joking regarding the cosmology of the Moon - Believe me I am not! I never joke about the word of GOD and the Bible

    God says the Moon is a light - NASA says it is solid - You told me everyone knows the Moon is solid!

    So tell me this - How do they know - Has everyone been to the Moon? - No not at all! Most people blindly believe what they are told by Scientists and NASA ( That openly displays in red "THE SERPENTS FORKED TONGUE")

    I encourage you to do some research on them Science also tells us we came from Apes!!! Do you believe that?

    Let God be true and every man a liar Romans 3:4

    The Bible tells me - The Earth is a flat non- rotating plain - The center of what is known as the FIRMAMENT - The Moon Sun and the stars revolve around us

    In the beginning God created the heaven and Earth - The Sun and Moon had not been created until V :16

    Another question for you ! ....... Does it mention it was spinning?? - If it indeed does spin give me Chapter and verse because I have missed it - Because I also want to know" WHAT WAS IT SPINNING AROUND" as the SUN MOON & STARS were not there!!

    Cheers Mate -I'll give you time to digest that information
  • Peter for verse 25
    You have to understand that I gave up messages and explanations because it was affecting my sleep etc, I refer you to my message on Deception where I explained all of that.

    I
  • Mishael on NASA for verse 25
    I never think about NASA. They build spaceships.

    I did watch a show recently: someone proved that all the planets had water at some time. Now they are ice worlds with no water or life.

    Only earth has water and life. Wonder why?

    Ice on the "poles". :D
  • Peter Grant Budgewoi Australia for verse 25
    Greetings Peter And my god richly bless you! - Thank for YOUR INTELLIGENT reply!

    I will try to address your quires as best I can - possibly not all in one email - If I do manage to - Well and good!

    Firstly what do I think God would say to a person asking God "Do you hear my prayer?" I think he would have said - "Of course I hear your pray Peter! My Holy spirit dwells within you! I hear your every word speak, in prayer or ingest - Your every thought, and in fact, I know exactly how many breaths you have taken , and exactly how many you have left.

    Do not think that you were stupid asking that question! - Even David in the many Psalms he wrote kept crying out "Hear my cry oh Father, hear my cry oh Lord. Even though the Lord had done many things for him,

    I believe that the scripture "where two or more are gathered etc" is related to the prayer of agreement in the verse above

    19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.

    20 "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

    I'm am not a bible teacher by any means But - I am sure this means that there is more power for God to act when two or more UNITE IN prayer As in -

    Deuteronomy 32:30

    How should one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight, except their Rock had sold them, and the LORD had shut them up?

    You see there is power in numbers - when people get together pray and do anything in the name of the Lord

    But!

    Even when you are alone God still hears you - Did he not enter you life when you asked for salvation?

    Matthew 21:22

    And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive, and you shall have them

    Well Mate! I will leave it there for now and work through your questions slowly - you will hear from me tomorrow -

    Gods blessings to you and your family

    By the way - Where do you live?
  • Peter- message to for verse 25
    I am saying this now but why has god hasn't stopped coronavirus? is it impossible to stop or is it the evil devil

    Peter Mcaleer
  • Peter- message to you all for verse 25
    does god have faith to live

    peter Mcaleer


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