Genesis Chapter 1 Discussion Page 28



 
  • Alysha on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    based off what the bible tells us / says ( Revelation -1: 14-15 ) What colour do you think The most high is ?
  • Jesse - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Ara,

    Can you please provide a specific location in Luke where it says the disciples were drunk? Thank you!
  • Ara on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    in luke it says that the disciples were drunk is that really true?
  • Kemaine Davian Ainsworth Morris on Genesis 1:2 - 2 years ago
    In the beginning, God created the earth.
  • The TWO COVENANTS - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    To establish the New Covenant that had better promises.

    To take authority away from Satan that he gained by the fall, of Adam and Eve.

    Genesis 3:15. Prophesy

    And I will put enmity between thee (Satan) and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it (Jesus) shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

    Satan is brain damaged. If he had believed that prophesy, he would NOT have stirred up the Chief Priests and Pharisees, to have Jesus crucified on the Cross. He was simply enjoying the suffering of the Son of God. He knew Jesus was the Son, when He tempted Jesus (Jesus fasted 40 days and nights in the desert).

    He truly believed that when Jesus died and was put into the tomb, that he had seen the last of Jesus: the dead Son of God. That is the part of the Prophesy where God says Satan would bruise Jesus's heel.

    Satan didn't know Jesus would be Resurrected. If he did, he wouldn't have let It happen.

    Jesus ratified THE NEW COVENANT, with His own sinless, holy BLOOD. Inside the Temple, when Jesus died, THE VEIL was torn down the middle: Top to Bottom. No human could've done that because the veil was massive in size. That was Jesus saying, THE OLD COVENANT is FINISHED. COMPLETED.

    The NEW COVENANT is now IN FORCE

    Imagine Satan realizing what had happened. He had been stripped of all his power and AUTHORITY. He no longer had permission to trouble mankind; cause deaths. Hold people's souls in prison. First thing Jesus did was go down to hell and set all the prisoners FREE.

    When we accept Jesus to be our own Personal, LORD and SAVIOR: we pass from the sentence of death, into ETERNAL LIFE. We worship Jesus for accomplishing that on our behalf. We can never be good enough to EARN it.

    That's why we sing, NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD OF JESUS, in church, at home, in the car, in front of our kids, everywhere!

    If you haven't done it yet, give your life to Jesus: and He will give His Life to you! Forever.

    Mishael
  • Christine on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Why christ came to earth?
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Thanks Michael,

    I will be copying them for future use.

    God bless you.
  • Michael - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Hello S Spencer.

    Thank you for your insightful comments. I enjoyed reading them. Quite accurate.

    Many who quote Matthew 5:17-19 fail to notice an important point, namely, Jesus said, "till all be fulfilled".

    Matthew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

    The Mosaic Law was fulfilled in Jesus Christ once he died and was resurrected. His death put to death the Mosaic Law as recorded at:

    Colossians 2:14-16: "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days."

    Romans 7:6 "But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter."

    Romans 10:4 "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."

    Many who quote Matthew 5:17-19 often do not notice what Jesus said in the parallel account at:

    Luke 16:16 "The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it."

    There, Jesus said further that the law, that is, the Mosaic Law, was UNTIL John. After John, it would be the New Covenant that was inaugurated by Jesus' shed blood. (See Luke 22:20.)

    Thus, 1 John 5:2, 3 and all other verses in the New Testament (Romans to Revelation), referring to God's commandments, does not refer to the 10 commandments nor the Mosaic Law commandments but only to the laws of the New Covenant (Romans to Revelation). In that New Testament Law, no instruction is ever made to keep the Sabbath Day or to circumcise all males, etc.

    I share these thoughts with you and hope you enjoy them.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Another from Chris.

    Thank you Michael for that clear & concise response. If the foundations of biblical teaching or doctrine are not properly laid, the building cracks will develop & bring destruction. I find that many Christians, whether because of Church teaching or from their own surmisings, look at Scriptures such as John 14:15 & immediately apply the obedience to the Law for all people, that which was given only to Israel.

    To do so, several things have to be overlooked or rejected: to whom was God speaking in the OT & to whom was Jesus speaking prior to His crucifixion? Only to Israel, none else. Gentiles weren't even in the picture pertaining to the Law & never have been. What was the reason for giving the Law? God's code of conduct (spiritual, moral & social) for His people, His Mark of separation from the heathen - Leviticus 26:46, (as also with circumcision: Genesis 17:10), & to demonstrate to Israel a godly standard that as sinners they could never fully obey ( Galatians 3:21-26).

    But then we get verses such as Matthew 5:17-19 which are often used to support the eternal nature & applicability of the Law to all people. To those under the Law, indeed, the Law is current & will be used against them. To those who have escaped the curse of the Law & have found new life in Christ, have learned that Christ has indeed fulfilled all the Law, forever abrogating it & thru His Death ushered in a new & better Covenant ( Hebrews 8:6-13).

    What then do we do with Scriptures (e.g. 1 John 5:2,3) that say we must obey God's commandments? Are John & others pointing the believer back to the letter of the Law that kills or rather to the Spirit Who gives life ( 2 Corinthians 3:6)? It is the Spirit's Law in our hearts that frees us from the Law of sin & death ( Romans 8:2). To give consent to both, that which is opposed to each other, weakens (even negates) the power of the New Covenant through Christ's Blood & the keeping of the Sabbath ever stands as a centrepiece to
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Hi Johnny How about I paste a reply from Michael on a similar topic. I think you will find your answer here.

    Jesus himself was born under the Mosaic Law and, therefore, was required to keep the Mosaic Law. That is why he was circumcised on the eight day as per the Mosaic Law. Notice that in the following verse. Jesus was made (or born) under the law - the Mosaic Law.

    Galatians 4:4 "But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,"

    As long as that Mosaic Law was in force, the Mosaic Law (the so-called Old Testament) was in force. Jesus therefore kept his Father's commandments of that Mosaic Law. But, the Holy Scriptures has said that God would set up a New Covenant that would not be like the Old Covenant. Notice...

    Jeremiah 31:31 "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:" "Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:"

    It was not the Apostle Paul who changed God's Law to his people - it was God himself as per Jeremiah 31:31. However, the Apostle Paul, writing under inspiration of God, gave the first-century Church the new directives or laws governing that New Covenant. He never instructed the Christian Churches of the first-century to keep the Mosaic Law such as circumcision or the sabbaths. In fact, he instructed them the complete opposite. Notice again...

    Colossians 2:16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:"

    You cannot judge a Christian for not keeping the sabbath days - as per the New Covenant that has been set up between God and his present-day people - the Church of God.

    I welcome your further thoughts, Dan. Good day.
  • Johnny Crump - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Do we today have to fallow the laws and commandments of the old testament?
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Hi Johnny.

    The answer to Your question is,

    The Church.

    1 Peter 2:9 (KJV) But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light.

    When God called Abraham out of his father's land into a land flowing with milk and honey the whole world was in spiritual fornication , There wasn't a Holy nation.

    Isn't it amazing how people fight to be the Hebrew as if that carried so merit today.

    They're brought into the family of God by the blood of Christ as well as us.

    God bless.
  • Johnny crump on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    who are gods chosen people of today? what verses do the bible talk about salvation for edomite and gentiles? do the curses of Deuteronomy apply to everyone or just Israelites?
  • Genesis on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Great book. Great website to read my fathers word. I even recommended this to 5 other people!
  • Al Brown on Genesis 1:2 - 2 years ago
    We are made of this same Earth, breathed to life with Spirit, not with earth. After watching some elders on a slow-decline that always start a year after beginning therapy, I do not consider it a coincidence that Statin and Satan are such similar words.
  • Rosie Thompson - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Good afternoon, I know that God is so very vast and bigger than anything that we could ever imagine. The world would not be able to hold the books that details all of who God is and what he does. I believe that as we ready and pray, he reveals in us those things that he wants us to know. If God had everything written in books, some people would be confused just as some are today about things such as what to eat and how to dress.
  • Debbie - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Hey there.

    I read your testimony and I believe it.

    The Lord did a good work in your life and you were patient enough to wait for it.

    You know I think it is good when we do not rely on our own understanding but rather have FAITH for our circumstances.

    You did well!

    Look at it like this way, this is one conversation (about what happened to you) that you can look forward to talking to The Lord about one fine day.

  • Scott on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    It has already begun.
  • Gary L on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Genesis 1:2 - Darkness , without form, void; A simplistic view of a simple man.

    Seems clear that God has no darkness in Him, everything is laid bare in His presence. Everything is created during the light of day for God has no darkness in Him and all darkness flees in His presence. It's conceivable that the earth and heaven were created in the light of God's presence without giving it light. Darkness is not chaos. Being void is not chaos, being without form is not chaos.

    The earth was made to be inhabited therefore the soil had to be very fertile yet the earth was covered in deep water. Man was made from the dust or dried out fertile earth, the good stuff. Fertile earth under water is mud, mud is formless until taken out of water and most of the water is removed to the point of a potters delight to give it form. Before the Spirit of God is in the nostrils of man it is void of life.

    The firmament does not yet divide the waters from the waters so it is not just the waters of earth that the Spirit of God is moving over but all of the water's depth of the earth and heaven.

    Man was without sin when created and the earth was not cursed until Adam listened to his wife and sinned. Adam was not deceived by the serpent and is why Adam sinned like no other man. Adam may have been tempted by the serpent but did not sin as a result just like Jesus, temped by the serpent but did not sin, Jesus is the last Adam, Jesus came back for His bride who was deceived by the serpent.

    God cursed the earth after Adam sinned for the benefit of man therefore why would God allow, or destroy it Himself, the earth for any other reason prior to man's sin?

    Darkness is the darkness of darkness for it is the condition without the light of God and is the darkness the ungodly will be cast into at the appointed time. God leaves this world behind with the new earth, the old earth has passed away along with the ungodly and back to its original darkness before God put the knowledge of His creation in Hi
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Just to add to the other comments: with what we have been told in Genesis, the formless & void (empty) Earth was really a great watery mass ("darkness was on the face of the deep and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters").

    Then God separated these waters by a firmament (Heb. raqiya, or an open expanse), so that some waters remained on the Earth & the rest above the Earth (referred to as 'heaven', ). In this respect, the 'heaven' (or, firmament) was the expanse that included this water, the sky as well as the universe, as the Lord created "lights in the firmament of heaven to divide the day from the night" (v 14).

    Of the water that was on Earth, we understand that God had parted it so that dry land would appear (v 9), but of the water remaining in the firmament, we're not told. It could have been a massive storage area whereby the Earth was watered from the sky (as Adam mentioned), & enclosing the Earth with moisture, giving the Earth a greenhouse effect. And this, with the "mist from the Earth" (2:6) sustained the plant life.
  • Keep the faith - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Scientists are buffoons !
  • Adam - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Dear Chuck,

    My understanding is the firmament may have been a type of protective atmosphere of the earth made with water- perhaps like clouds or thicker which would irrigate or humidify the air and land. Genesis 1:7. Keep in mind it never rained until Noah boarded the ark, so this was probably a perfect and beautiful system. God bless...
  • Mishaet - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Chris will be in here shortly and he can give a better answer. My phone is about on zero.

    Firmament is land mass. It was altogether in the time before Adam and Eve were created.

    Scientists now say all the planets had water at one time. Extreme heat dried up all of their water.

    Only Earth has water; and life.

    You can Google scientists recent announcement on that discovery. I saw the program on PBS. Might look on PBS dot org
  • Mishael - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Go back out to the red page where you clicked the link to come into this room.

    You'll see the links about different Bibles. Pick Apocrypha

    KJV Bible

    KJV Standard

    KJV 1611

    KJV Introduction

    KJV Apocrypha

    KJV Mobile Site

    KJV Store

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  • Michael Vesosky - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    God is very meticulous when it comes to having a complete cannon of scriptures in the 66 books of the bible. Be careful who you choose to believe . The devil uses people to tell you there are missing books of the bible. But God is a able to preserve his word that the man of God may be thoroughly furnished. It is not a coincidence that Isaiah has 66 chapters corresponding to the 66 books of the bible. Isaiah 1:2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me. Genesis 1 And God said let there be... and the heavens and earth listened and gave ear and came into existence. The biggest division in the bible is between the old testament and the new testament. 39 in the old 27 in the new. So If Isaiah chapter 39 represents he last book of the old testament and chapter 40 represents the first book of the new testament then there should be a division between chapters 39 and 40 and there is. Chapters 36 -39 all talk about Hezekiah but in chapter 40 the subject dramatically changes and the subject is the voice of one crying in the wilderness which just happens to be how the new testament starts with John the Baptist being the voice crying in the wilderness. The last chapter of Isaiah... For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. Last book of the Bible And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 66 Books preserved and kept by the power of God. There is nothing more important to God than his Word.
  • Cimarron 777 on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    I've been told that there are books of the Bible that aren't actually in the Bible and I just would like to know exactly why. Like, I get that there's the whole 'works' and 'Christ' deal. But why aren't all of the books put into one big book anyways? I would really appreciate it if someone could answer this. If so, could you give references as to how I could obtain these other books? Please and thank you.

    C. Alexander
  • Chuck Gaffan on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    in Genesis 1:7 can you explain what is meant by the firmament and what or rather where did the water come from? I am having difficulty understanding where the firmament is and why did the waters have to be divided?

    Regards

    Chuck
  • Leo Emmanuel Lochard on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Jeremiah 33:26 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    "Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob, and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them."

    THEN I WILL CAST AWAY THE SEED OF JACOB.... "The Scepter had to remain in JUDAH, Christ, "the lion of Judah" and the root of Jesse.....

    "LET HE WHO HAS EARS, HEAR AND UNDERSTAND!"

    SEED and not "descendants" - what was "the seed of Jacob" - supplanter; dealer; deceiver; thief; conniver; contender etc.... And what was the SEED of ABRAM-ABRAHAM, father of FAITH, and father of many families and nations, through obedience in sacrificing his only son of promise, ISAAC: He BELIEVED GOD: THUS, IT WAS HIS FAITH THAT WAS "RECKONED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS!"

    Hence, why Christ talks in the parable of the Sower sowing "SEED" and "beware of the leaven of the Pharisees" and the Apostle Paul, also warning us, against "mutilators of the flesh," blaspheming their heresy that Christ had no come in the flesh: for "a little leaven leavens the whole loaf."

    "The abomination of sacrilege that causes desolation" - spoken of by Daniel the prophet and reaffirmed to us by CHRIST JESUS HIMSELF more than 2,000 years ago, is "standing in the holy place" right now amongst us, since 1948 - causing violence and bloodshed for spoils of loot and booty!

    "Jerusalem" -city of peace in Arabic-"stolen" by David from the JEBUSITES, which God had "allowed" to happen, AFTER "THE ISRAELITES" HAD REJECTED GOD AS THEIR ONLY KING (1 SAMUEL) SO AS TO save a REMNANT to bring Christ Jesus Messiah Savior into the world; Jerusalem, whose name has NEVER changed, to this day, spiritually symbolizes-prefigured God's living Word in ISAIAH the prophet, Hebrews 11, in Revelation 20-22 - "a new country:" "THE JERUSALEM FROM HEAVEN" WHICH ONLY CHRIST JESUS MESSIAH WILL ESTABLISH UPON HIS RETURN WITH "A NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH." **
  • Leo Emmanuel Lochard on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    For as christ himself in his merciful eternal loving kindness and selfless omnipoteent and omniscient benevolence warned us more than 2,000 years ago" : "heaven and earth shall pass away but my words shall never pass away" - ( acts 4:12 kjv 1611 - for there is no other god given to humankind by whom we must be saved." ***
  • Leo Emmanuel Lochard - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    My comments addressed all the godless humanist "ISM's - among which, ZIONISM, 1896, and NOT the book of Genesis, which is also God's living Word prophesying the coming of Christ Jesus Messiah Lord God Savior Redeemer in GENESIS 3:15, KJV, where Christ is referred to as THE SEED OF WOMAN, and not as "descendant" or "offspring" that begs focus and concentration on carnal biological genealogical flesh lineage that contradicts God's Word in the Book of John that we are BORN OF GOD and that THE FLESH IS OF NO AVAIL ( JOHN 1: 1-18; JOHN 3:16; JOHN 6:63; JOHN 17:3; HEBREWS 8:13; HEBREWS 13:8; REVELATION 1:7; REVELATION 20, 21, 22, KJV 1611, HOLY BIBLE). ***


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