My question is that listening to the teaching of the Bible it sounds so sad that if they didn't obey the Lord the punishment was always deaf why couldn't it have been a less harsh punishment than that because at the same time the Bible says that to repent and God will forgive you and that he is a forgiving God
Dear Heavely FATHER , thank you for thy love for this sinful son of thine. Please walk with me this day in peace and love. A special prayer for Mariana my wife and her native Bulgaria. She is a great Christian! Amen and amen!! Thy son Luke. Amen and amen!!
The "Let Us", or the Godhead speaking together. I have all these underlined in my Bible.
The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.
Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7
Isaiah 6:8
Romans 1:20
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:27-30
1 John 5:7
John 10:30
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"
Genesis 1:1
The Father purposes
The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)
The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.
All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.
Matthew 1:23
"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."
Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.
[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]
So I am confused through out creation he always referred to him saying and it be done . Except for when he said let US make men in our image. Does anyone have the understanding for that?
My Lord JESUS said: "Satan was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the Truth, because there is no Truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:v.44
I must say that her contact in heaven in accord your belief, it is only and only WITH THE MONSTRUOS red Dragon, having 7 heads, and 10 horns, and a TERRIBLE tail, that is that old serpent called the Devil and Satan. But now, he will be cast down to the earth, and no doubt she will never need to do her travel no more.
Know that no LIE is (or comes from) of the Truth. 1John 2:v.18
JLb Be very careful concerning prophecy, that which is telling the future, if it does not happen verbatim as stated by the individual that should be a red flag. Also prophecy in a given specific situation will be specific to that situation, the prophets in the old testament were known because what they said happened exactly as God showed them no exception if you like I can give scripture references.
You all need to watch Kat Kerr talk about the beginning, etc....
She has been going back and forth to heaven since childhood and God showed her His timeline of generations from the beginning. She is the go to Revelator (As God Calls Her). She is anointed to reveal heaven to us all! God led me right to her when I prayed specifically for Him to lead me to people who have been to heaven. Amazing revelations! Do it! You will never be the same guaranteed! Remember, God see's us as His children not His adults.
native america and others use fire by old fashion survival for example stones or friction of stick. Adam and eve is very very very smart to figure out how to make fire as similar as native america culture.
OK, only for your knowledge, and for all readers, from the moment of starting of restoration or restitution of all things by JESUS , according it is reevealed in Acts 3:v.18 to 26, there passed around 2.160.000 days of 24 hours day or around 6.000 years or 6 Days according the Word - the Word is GOD.
Psalms 90:v.1 to 4 and 12
Lord, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations.
2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
3 Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men.
4 For a THOUSAND YEARS in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night. (evening and morning)
12 So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom.
One day ago , in a post you sent to Earl , you said that Jesus came in the 4th day , I disagree and believe that Jesus is the light of Genesis ch1 V3,4 and 5 .
Earth is flat and we live under a dome(the firmament), the Bible is literal and doesn't need to be decoded. What you read is exactly what is meant. Plain and simple
Peter Apostle said A THOUSAND YEARS IS AS ONE DAY, but not A HUMAN DAY of 24 hours, but A DAY of a thousand years.
Based in the Word of God, the source of the truth, on God's six Days of creation and one Day of rest (a total of seven days) plus the Scriptures that teach that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years, so MANKIND would go through six God Days of 1.000 years each (a total of 6.000 years) plus a Millennium of 1.000 years rest - period of GOD's Kingdom -now a total of 7.000 years.
By the way, had you ever the curiosity to calculate how many 24 hour days have passed around these past 6.000 years or 6 DAYS according the Word of GOD?
Let's put 2 Peter 3:8. in its context starting from verse 3.
2 Peter 3:3-9.
Now lets look at verse 8 and give attention to the second half of this verse as highlighted below.
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and ( A THOUSAND YEARS AS ONE DAY.)
When we apply the second half of this verse it cancels out the first half of this verse when trying to use it to measure the length of a day!
You see the day is very long or very short.
The Emphasis is NOT on the length of a day that we may measure it.
The Emphasis is on the Lords longsuffering and patience because he's not restricted by time. He stands outside of time looking in.
Isaiah 46:10. Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
In context with the preceding verse 9.
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is LONGSUFFERING to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
HERE'S WHAT PETER IS ADDRESSING.
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
You given your strong stance on the everlasting Christ in the Past.
I understand what you we're saying focusing on the Light.
I've always always blew right by Gen ch 1 verses 1-3. I saw the trinity In "God," "He spoke," and Gods spirit brood"
In verse 3 we see the manifestation of light from el-o-heem'
I Will talk with you later, You are getting me in trouble, I'm working on my 5 year old, forever growing honey due list and got caught on the site with you.
Brother S Spencer, I don't disagree with one single word you wrote. God is so far above our understanding it's mind boggling. He gives us his written word to study with out literal eyes and the living word LIVING IN US to barely glimpse and understand the next world, when we will live in the same glory with Christ as he had with the Father before the foundations of the world.
The literal sun cannot exist and burn as literal fire without Christ (by him all things consist)(our God is a consuming fire). Yet; on the other hand, this same literal fire can LIVE IN US as spiritual fire, mind boggling.
The literal sun (Christ) gives literal light the same literal sun (Christ) LIVES IN US and gives us spiritual light, mind boggling.
Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so the things which are seen (literal things) were not made with things which do appear (can be seen, but by SPIRIT which can't be seen). All things are Spirit, some appear as literal.
Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers (can be seen): for thereby some have entertained angels (can't be seen) unawares.
Spirit can manifest as literal. Christ is SPIRIT but can stand in the literal.
Chris if you want to look up some interesting stuff look into E.W. bullingers Witness of the Stars or figures of Speech in the bible and Numbers in scripture unbelievably in depth and the amount of detail will blow your mind. If His writings aren't inspired by God then I've admittedly missed the boat. That being said take a look and have fun. In His Service Me
Peter the Apostle of the Lord JESUS said: But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 2Peter 3:v.8
Do you imagine that GOD created THE SUN in the fourth Day? Or two thousand years ago? It is true that GOD the Father was still working two thousand years ago, as JESUS revealed in John 5:v.17. JESUS said: My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
But it is evident that the LITERAL SUN was not created in the fourth Day or two thousand years ago. I'm sure that the only SUN created in the fourth Day was the SUN of righteousness, according the Word GOD gave to the prophet Malachi
and he prophesied, saying: 4:v.2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Footnotes - 1599 Geneva Bible
Malachi 4:2 Meaning, Christ, who with his wings or beams of his grace should lighten and comfort his Church, Eph. 5:14, and he is called the sun of righteousness, because in himself he hath all perfection and also the justice of the Father dwelleth in him: whereby he regenerateth us unto righteousness, cleanseth us from the filth of this world, and reformeth us to the image of God.
Malachi 4:2 Ye shall be set at liberty, and increase in the joy of the Spirit, 2 Cor. 3:17.
I enjoyed your message.Yes, EVERYTHING LITERAL has a parallel and is spiritually discerned, as you have said.The parables of our Lord JESUS are good examples, as you know.
Yes, was not made first which is spiritual,created in the likeness and image of Christ,but natural; in my vision this process remains for ever and ever, as said the wise:Ec.3:15 -That which hath been is now;and that which is to be hath already been;and GOD requireth that which is past.Paul apostle said:Rom.8:v.20-21:- 20 For the creature was made subject to vanity,not willingly,but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.Check it out in John 1:v.12-13.
By the way,John the Baptist said: John 3:v.31-32: -31 He that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: He that cometh from above is above all. 32-And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth;...
Now, in this END of the times, the process will be inverse, as said JESUS in Luke 20:v.35-36: 35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world (the next world - the Kingdom of GOD - Rev.11:v.15-18), and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: 36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
Ph.3:v.20-21:
20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
1Th. 4:v.16-17
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel,...17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up...to meet the Lord...and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
I believe you gave us a view of the trinity. Gen. 1:1.In the beginning "El-o-heem'" created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2.And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the "SPIRIT OF GOD moved upon the face of the waters.
Gen 1:3. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Now I'm not sure if you're saying Jesus was created in verse 3 or not but we are sure it's not so according to these verses.
( ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM; and without him was not any thing made that was made.)
In him was life; AND THE "LIFE WAS THE LIGHT OF MEN."
Colossians 1:16-17. For by him were all things created, that are in HEAVEN, and that are in earth, VISIBLE AND INVISIBLE, whether they be THROWNS, or DOMINIONS, or PRINCIPALITIES, or POWERS: (all things were created by him, and for him:)
And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
"Point here is we see Angels created here as well!!
And in Job 38:4-7. The Angels shouted for joy when Jesus created the Earth.
"Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
John 17:5. And now, O Father, glorify thou me WITH THINE OWN SELF with the glory which I had with thee BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.
Now we know he didn't come in the 4th Day!
Gen 1:16. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. THE SUN. "Also created!" You see a contrast of that light and the light of Jesus in
Revelation 21:23. and Revelation 22:5.
Revelation 3:14. Means in the sense Jesus is the origin and source of Gods creation. Colossians 1:15-18. and head of the new creation. 2 Corinthians 5:17.
OSEAS, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
I haven't spent a lot of time letting the Spirit teach me the things in Genesis that have to be SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED. I KNOW there are THERE because EVERYTHING LITERAL has a PARALLEL that has to be SPIRITUALLY discerned. I know part of them because you can see them quite clearly; as JESUS was the first created light.
I spend most of my study in the prophets and Revelation and their relation to the New Testament and how we become the the likeness and image of Christ; which also has to be spiritually discerned. How and when we will be the judges with Christ in the kingdom of God. None of this can be seen, but is as REAL as God himself.
Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.
1 Corinthians 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural, and afterwards that which is spiritual.
Hebrews 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the REMOVING of those things that can be SHAKEN, as of those things that are made, that those things which CANNOT BE SHAKEN shall remain.
I BELIEVE from reading you comments you understand that the literal has a parallel and that is what's REAL, the literal will DISAPPEAR.
When you have time, look at the story of Jacob (the literal) and the ladder to heaven, and replace Jacob with Jesus the REAL.
Genesis 28:10-22
John 1:51
I will study the seven days of creation in Genesis more; in the mean time; God willing, let us keep digging for the treasures of God's word (living and written), as the Spirit reveals them to us.
Thank you Dianne. I did read up on the Lamsa Bible (George Lamsa) & particularly on Matthew 27:46 & how he has interpreted it. I guess he has his own way of looking at the words & grammar, just as there are many variations of interpretations given by others (Westcott & Hort, etc). What was of interest & concern to me, was that he didn't connect Matthew 27:46 to Psalm 22:1, rather said "that the text of the Gospels was corrupt and that it is not a quotation but should read /Eli, Eli, lemana shabaqthani, which he translates as: "My God, my God, for this I was spared!" An accompanying footnote in Lamsa's English version of the Bible explains Jesus' meaning as "This was my destiny.""
If that being the case & he doesn't make the connection between the two portions of Scripture, then what else can one say? Thanks again for your input: I can now appreciate the basis of your understanding & interpretation, at least of these passages.
Have you ever perceived that JESUS came in the fourth Day? By the way, JESUS left very clear saying in the fourth Day when He came: My Father worketh hitherto, and I work- John 5:v.17. Even JESUS is saying and calling Himself as the Greater Light in Genesis 1. When JESUS came in the fourth Day He said: John 12:v.45-46:
45 - He that seeth me seeth Him that sent me. 46 I am come a light into the WORLD, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.- This event of JESUS coming was the fulfillment of Genesis 1:v.18 :...and GOD divide the light from the darkness:and God saw that it was good.19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth Day.
The Lesser Light is about the Holy Spirit, the Comforter, he has not light in he himself, his light comes from the Father throught JESUS, the Greater Light (by analogy physicaly the moon receives and reflects the light of the sun), as JESUS said: John 16:7-15:
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth;It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
...
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me:for he shall receive of mine,and shall shew it unto you.
15 All things that the Father hath are mine:therefore said I, that he shall TAKE OF MINE,and shall shew it unto you.
Materialists confuse the biblical expression Greater Light and twist it when they say it is the Sun. Also they confuse the biblical expression Lesser Light and twist it when they say it is the Moon. Physically the Sun and the Moon have nothing to do with the biblical expression Greater Light and Lesser Light created in the fourth Day - Genesis 1:v.16, except for analogy.
The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.
Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7
Isaiah 6:8
Romans 1:20
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:27-30
1 John 5:7
John 10:30
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"
Genesis 1:1
The Father purposes
The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)
The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.
All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.
Matthew 1:23
"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."
Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.
[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]
J B L
My Lord JESUS said: "Satan was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the Truth, because there is no Truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:v.44
I must say that her contact in heaven in accord your belief, it is only and only WITH THE MONSTRUOS red Dragon, having 7 heads, and 10 horns, and a TERRIBLE tail, that is that old serpent called the Devil and Satan. But now, he will be cast down to the earth, and no doubt she will never need to do her travel no more.
Know that no LIE is (or comes from) of the Truth. 1John 2:v.18
She has been going back and forth to heaven since childhood and God showed her His timeline of generations from the beginning. She is the go to Revelator (As God Calls Her). She is anointed to reveal heaven to us all! God led me right to her when I prayed specifically for Him to lead me to people who have been to heaven. Amazing revelations! Do it! You will never be the same guaranteed! Remember, God see's us as His children not His adults.
Greetings in Christ JESUS
OK, only for your knowledge, and for all readers, from the moment of starting of restoration or restitution of all things by JESUS , according it is reevealed in Acts 3:v.18 to 26, there passed around 2.160.000 days of 24 hours day or around 6.000 years or 6 Days according the Word - the Word is GOD.
Psalms 90:v.1 to 4 and 12
Lord, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations.
2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
3 Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men.
4 For a THOUSAND YEARS in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night. (evening and morning)
12 So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom.
Hopefully we can just "Peacefully" and humblely agree to disagree. I don't care to debate it. Thanks
Go to Blue letter bible to the Audio commentary and look up Chuck Misslers take o Genesis 1:2. Interesting take on the Gap theory..
More to do with Angels rather than Man and Dinosaurs.
God bless.
Peter Apostle said A THOUSAND YEARS IS AS ONE DAY, but not A HUMAN DAY of 24 hours, but A DAY of a thousand years.
Based in the Word of God, the source of the truth, on God's six Days of creation and one Day of rest (a total of seven days) plus the Scriptures that teach that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years, so MANKIND would go through six God Days of 1.000 years each (a total of 6.000 years) plus a Millennium of 1.000 years rest - period of GOD's Kingdom -now a total of 7.000 years.
By the way, had you ever the curiosity to calculate how many 24 hour days have passed around these past 6.000 years or 6 DAYS according the Word of GOD?
Let's put 2 Peter 3:8. in its context starting from verse 3.
2 Peter 3:3-9.
Now lets look at verse 8 and give attention to the second half of this verse as highlighted below.
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and ( A THOUSAND YEARS AS ONE DAY.)
When we apply the second half of this verse it cancels out the first half of this verse when trying to use it to measure the length of a day!
You see the day is very long or very short.
The Emphasis is NOT on the length of a day that we may measure it.
The Emphasis is on the Lords longsuffering and patience because he's not restricted by time. He stands outside of time looking in.
Isaiah 46:10. Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
In context with the preceding verse 9.
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is LONGSUFFERING to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
HERE'S WHAT PETER IS ADDRESSING.
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
HE'S NOT LAYING OUT A WAY WE MEASURE A DAY.
God bless.
My references in all my posts have been the Word of GOD - the Word is GOD - so what reference you imply it be by the spirit of the err?
You given your strong stance on the everlasting Christ in the Past.
I understand what you we're saying focusing on the Light.
I've always always blew right by Gen ch 1 verses 1-3. I saw the trinity In "God," "He spoke," and Gods spirit brood"
In verse 3 we see the manifestation of light from el-o-heem'
I Will talk with you later, You are getting me in trouble, I'm working on my 5 year old, forever growing honey due list and got caught on the site with you.
God bless.
The literal sun cannot exist and burn as literal fire without Christ (by him all things consist)(our God is a consuming fire). Yet; on the other hand, this same literal fire can LIVE IN US as spiritual fire, mind boggling.
The literal sun (Christ) gives literal light the same literal sun (Christ) LIVES IN US and gives us spiritual light, mind boggling.
Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so the things which are seen (literal things) were not made with things which do appear (can be seen, but by SPIRIT which can't be seen). All things are Spirit, some appear as literal.
Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers (can be seen): for thereby some have entertained angels (can't be seen) unawares.
Spirit can manifest as literal. Christ is SPIRIT but can stand in the literal.
How great the MYSTERIES OF GOD.
Peter the Apostle of the Lord JESUS said: But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 2Peter 3:v.8
Do you imagine that GOD created THE SUN in the fourth Day? Or two thousand years ago? It is true that GOD the Father was still working two thousand years ago, as JESUS revealed in John 5:v.17. JESUS said: My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
But it is evident that the LITERAL SUN was not created in the fourth Day or two thousand years ago. I'm sure that the only SUN created in the fourth Day was the SUN of righteousness, according the Word GOD gave to the prophet Malachi
and he prophesied, saying: 4:v.2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Footnotes - 1599 Geneva Bible
Malachi 4:2 Meaning, Christ, who with his wings or beams of his grace should lighten and comfort his Church, Eph. 5:14, and he is called the sun of righteousness, because in himself he hath all perfection and also the justice of the Father dwelleth in him: whereby he regenerateth us unto righteousness, cleanseth us from the filth of this world, and reformeth us to the image of God.
Malachi 4:2 Ye shall be set at liberty, and increase in the joy of the Spirit, 2 Cor. 3:17.
Greetings in Christ JESUS
About Genesis 1:v.2, will be the readers think or imagine the "SPIRIT OF GOD moved upon the face of the H2O? or waters according Revelation 17:v.15?
Greetings in Christ JESUS
I enjoyed your message.Yes, EVERYTHING LITERAL has a parallel and is spiritually discerned, as you have said.The parables of our Lord JESUS are good examples, as you know.
Yes, was not made first which is spiritual,created in the likeness and image of Christ,but natural; in my vision this process remains for ever and ever, as said the wise:Ec.3:15 -That which hath been is now;and that which is to be hath already been;and GOD requireth that which is past.Paul apostle said:Rom.8:v.20-21:- 20 For the creature was made subject to vanity,not willingly,but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.Check it out in John 1:v.12-13.
By the way,John the Baptist said: John 3:v.31-32: -31 He that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: He that cometh from above is above all. 32-And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth;...
Now, in this END of the times, the process will be inverse, as said JESUS in Luke 20:v.35-36: 35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world (the next world - the Kingdom of GOD - Rev.11:v.15-18), and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: 36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
Ph.3:v.20-21:
20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
1Th. 4:v.16-17
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel,...17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up...to meet the Lord...and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
I believe you gave us a view of the trinity. Gen. 1:1.In the beginning "El-o-heem'" created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2.And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the "SPIRIT OF GOD moved upon the face of the waters.
Gen 1:3. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Now I'm not sure if you're saying Jesus was created in verse 3 or not but we are sure it's not so according to these verses.
( ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM; and without him was not any thing made that was made.)
In him was life; AND THE "LIFE WAS THE LIGHT OF MEN."
Colossians 1:16-17. For by him were all things created, that are in HEAVEN, and that are in earth, VISIBLE AND INVISIBLE, whether they be THROWNS, or DOMINIONS, or PRINCIPALITIES, or POWERS: (all things were created by him, and for him:)
And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
"Point here is we see Angels created here as well!!
And in Job 38:4-7. The Angels shouted for joy when Jesus created the Earth.
"Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
John 17:5. And now, O Father, glorify thou me WITH THINE OWN SELF with the glory which I had with thee BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.
Now we know he didn't come in the 4th Day!
Gen 1:16. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. THE SUN. "Also created!" You see a contrast of that light and the light of Jesus in
Revelation 21:23. and Revelation 22:5.
Revelation 3:14. Means in the sense Jesus is the origin and source of Gods creation. Colossians 1:15-18. and head of the new creation. 2 Corinthians 5:17.
God bles
I haven't spent a lot of time letting the Spirit teach me the things in Genesis that have to be SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED. I KNOW there are THERE because EVERYTHING LITERAL has a PARALLEL that has to be SPIRITUALLY discerned. I know part of them because you can see them quite clearly; as JESUS was the first created light.
I spend most of my study in the prophets and Revelation and their relation to the New Testament and how we become the the likeness and image of Christ; which also has to be spiritually discerned. How and when we will be the judges with Christ in the kingdom of God. None of this can be seen, but is as REAL as God himself.
Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.
1 Corinthians 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural, and afterwards that which is spiritual.
Hebrews 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the REMOVING of those things that can be SHAKEN, as of those things that are made, that those things which CANNOT BE SHAKEN shall remain.
I BELIEVE from reading you comments you understand that the literal has a parallel and that is what's REAL, the literal will DISAPPEAR.
When you have time, look at the story of Jacob (the literal) and the ladder to heaven, and replace Jacob with Jesus the REAL.
Genesis 28:10-22
John 1:51
I will study the seven days of creation in Genesis more; in the mean time; God willing, let us keep digging for the treasures of God's word (living and written), as the Spirit reveals them to us.
If that being the case & he doesn't make the connection between the two portions of Scripture, then what else can one say? Thanks again for your input: I can now appreciate the basis of your understanding & interpretation, at least of these passages.
Have you ever perceived that JESUS came in the fourth Day? By the way, JESUS left very clear saying in the fourth Day when He came: My Father worketh hitherto, and I work- John 5:v.17. Even JESUS is saying and calling Himself as the Greater Light in Genesis 1. When JESUS came in the fourth Day He said: John 12:v.45-46:
45 - He that seeth me seeth Him that sent me. 46 I am come a light into the WORLD, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.- This event of JESUS coming was the fulfillment of Genesis 1:v.18 :...and GOD divide the light from the darkness:and God saw that it was good.19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth Day.
The Lesser Light is about the Holy Spirit, the Comforter, he has not light in he himself, his light comes from the Father throught JESUS, the Greater Light (by analogy physicaly the moon receives and reflects the light of the sun), as JESUS said: John 16:7-15:
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth;It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
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12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me:for he shall receive of mine,and shall shew it unto you.
15 All things that the Father hath are mine:therefore said I, that he shall TAKE OF MINE,and shall shew it unto you.
Materialists confuse the biblical expression Greater Light and twist it when they say it is the Sun. Also they confuse the biblical expression Lesser Light and twist it when they say it is the Moon. Physically the Sun and the Moon have nothing to do with the biblical expression Greater Light and Lesser Light created in the fourth Day - Genesis 1:v.16, except for analogy.
About stars read Dan.12:v.3