Galatians Chapter 4 Discussion



 
  • Charles Robert Northup - in Reply on Galatians 4
    Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, be gotten in death we are not So Son referring to Jesus always, means begotten Son
  • Wisdom is the principle thing on Galatians 4
    Galatians 3.21

    3.6

    3.7

    And because ye are sons , God hath sent forth the spirit of his Son into your hearts , crying Abba Father

    We are small s and Jesus is Large S .

    Verse 7 ..through Christ.
  • Dr. Lyle Lee - in Reply on Galatians 4
    Hi Rick; Thanks for helping me in your right understanding, this is true, we are not practicing the old covenant today (Ten Commandments in stone) but rather the new covenant as in Hebrews 8:6-13. I am glad therefore you have not gone under that bondage. Stay blessed
  • Rick - in Reply on Galatians 4
    Dr. Lyle Lee Actually the exact opposite is was I stated, In our time biblically age of Grace we operate in the law of agapeo love of God in Christ which put an end to the law.
  • Dr. Lyle Lee - in Reply on Galatians 4
    Hi Alex; all glory to God, I am just trying to reveal truth as the Lord has inspired me to understand what truth is.
  • Dr. Lyle Lee - in Reply on Galatians 4
    Hi Rick; by your response you have led me to believe you think as Christians we should practice the Ten Commandments in stone, this of course would be bondage, as Christians are now commanded to obey the Ten Commandments in the heart according to Jeremiah 31:31-34 and Hebrews 8:6-13 This old law of God had an expiry date according to the Lord Jesus who taught it would expire as soon as he fulfilled it. Matthew 5:18 The question should be asked, when did he fulfill it? The answer is then given in Luke 16:16 by the time of John the Baptist, as it would expire at that time. Today the Ten Commandments in stone is dead. Romans 7:4 and 7:6-7 We are now commanded to keep the new covenant which is the Ten Commandments written in the heart where there is no Sabbath or generational curses.
  • Rick - in Reply on Galatians 4
    Dr. Lyle Lee The men of God who believed in the patriarchal were made righteous by obedience to Gods word

    before the law and after the Law there are those who walked in the commandments and the law blameless Luke

    1:6 Zacharias and Elisabeth it doesn't say faultless. So these people who believed God were made righteous by

    their faithfulness in the administration they were in. They will be judged at the end and found righteous, we in

    the Body of Christ the Church of God have been made the Righteousness of God in Christ Spiritually and are going

    to be rewarded for out stand spiritually on the Word. Also believers in the Body are by rebirth spiritually christ in

    sons and daughters by God in the old testament they were adopted by God that Includes Israel.
  • Alex N - in Reply on Galatians 4
    Hiya Bro. Lyle Lee sure enjoyed your take on Gal. 4 Gbu
  • Dr. Lyle Lee on Galatians 4
    Galatians 4:21-31 Here the Apostle Paul takes five shadows and typologies in order to create an allegory, he used Abraham to represent God the Father, the two wives Hagar and Sarah to represent the two covenants, the old covenant which is the Ten Commandments in stone and the new covenant, which is the Ten Commandments in the heart. The two children Ishmael and Isaac, represent the two children of God, the first born son of Abraham represents God's first born son Israel, and the second born son of Abraham, represents God's second born son Christianity. Then does the Apostle Paul refer unto the prophecy of Isaiah concerning the two woman, the married woman is Israel, who was married to God, yet did not have as many children as the baron woman, which is Christianity, who is engaged to God, she has more children. Then he turns his attention to Christians who obey the Ten Commandments in stone and teaches their mother is Hagar, the old covenant, yet the prophecy will be fulfilled spiritually, as the old covenant, Hagar and her son, all those who obey the Ten Commandments inb stone shall be cast out of the millennial kingdom of heaven and will not reign with the Lord Jesus Christ or the Christians who obeyed the Ten Commandments in the heart, having Sarah as their mother.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} on Galatians 4
    Galatians 4:4

    Precious friends, please be Very Richly Encouraged In The Only TRUE Hope, Found In God's Precious Word Of Truth!

    "Christ's coming and birth at Bethlehem was not an accident; it was an appointment. Jesus Christ came at God's appointed time, not a moment too late, and not a second too early. The first Christmas miracle started long before Bethlehem. It took place over many centuries as God worked, foretold, and prepared Israel for His Son's coming."

    'Borrowed' from an Excellent Article: "The Fullness of the Time" by Kevin Sadler

    Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

    2 Timothy 2:15 Romans 16:25 Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship {Romans - Philemon}, For ALL "to SEE," today,?

    God's 'Simple' Will: Link
  • Mountain Preacher on Galatians 4
    All the hatred in the middle east is because Abraham didn't want to wait on God . He took the ability to have sexual relations that God had restored to him and used it outside of God's plan. God said that Sarah would be the mother of the nation not Hagar. Any time that we do not follow God's will for our lives it will result in damaging our walk with Christ.
  • Chris - in Reply on Galatians 4:10
    I think you may be seeking clarification of Romans 14:5,6 to a similar passage in Galatians 4:9,10.

    As both of Paul's letters are to believers, I read the Galatians portion as applying to some who wanted to observe those aspects of the Jewish religious requirements as necessary, as opposed to the freedom believers now have in Christ, in Romans 14.

    In Galatians, Paul speaks of the Jewish customs & observances (of special days & times) that were required for the performance of their religion. This went part & parcel with a strict & correct observance, & any departure from it, brought displeasure & punishment.

    But when one is "in Christ", we have no such constraints placed upon us, as we look into the "perfect law of liberty" because Christ, in His Sacrifice, not only brought us a glorious salvation from sin's penalty, but also released us from the bondage to anything else (whether a Law, custom, or tradition), so that we may enjoy the liberty that comes with faith in Christ & being led of His Spirit in our lives. So in Romans 4:5,6, Paul is reminding the believers there that they are free to observe any day they wished or eat anything they desired, for they were no longer under legal constraint, but under the dictates of the conscience, as those now belonging to Jesus. And of course, the reason for Paul bringing up this matter, was the concern about a judgemental attitude, which would be prevalent especially by those coming out of Judaism & who believed that the 'old' observances were still necessary to live as a Christian. And we know that the Apostle Peter too failed momentarily in this matter of behaviour in front of Jews ( Galatians 2:11-16).

    We are never to judge another, except to proclaim the Word accurately to one who is failing or departing from the teachings from the Word. Therefore, whether in our mind or action against them, we are to desist, but by loving instruction guide or warn them, leaving the matter of the soul's condition only to the Lord.
  • Allan Ashurst on Galatians 4:10
    What is the difference between the practices referred to here and those referred to in Romans chapter 14 ?
  • Andy G van den Berg on Galatians 4
    On Galatians 4:8.

    The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and not for any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20). If it records in Rev. 12:9 that this whole world has been deceived it did not speak of a particular country, group of people, person or religion, it meant the whole world.

    For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' how and by whom ( 2 Cor. 11:13-15) this whole world has been deceived and what mankind must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( Matthew 7:7; John 14:17).

    Only through Repentance will God be able to reveal Himself, and adopt you as His sons and daughters ( Rom. 8:15,23; 2 Cor.6:18; Gal. 4:5; Eph. 1:5; Hebr. 12:5; 1 John 3:1) and reveal to you how this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9)..

    The word 'Repent' means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).

    For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9), and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( John 14:17).

    It is only by revelation of God that people will come to know the true Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1), and only then will you be able to overcome the spirit of this world ( 1 John 5:4; Rev. 3:21). It should be remembered that it is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).
  • A Bible believer - in Reply on Galatians 4
    Also plea the blood
  • A Bible believer - in Reply on Galatians 4
    That was at a time when they were "Under the law" as some people put it. The law at that time that woman couldnt do that kind of stuff and there was a LOT of pressure on the church at that time. But likewise this is sexism and God teach loving one another. So no, this does not apply today.
  • Brother Dan - in Reply on Galatians 4
    Mark 2:27

    "And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:"

    Matthew 5:17

    "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

    Matthew 5:18

    "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."
  • Comments by Alex on the old covenant and the Sabbath day Read Gal 4 v 11 KJV. I am afraid of you Paul says ye observe days ( the sabbath day ) months and Times and years etc. Jesus said the law and the prophets were until John since that Time the Kingdom of God is preached and all men press into it. Now under this New covenant the Kingdom of GOD IS WITHIN US 24/7 NOT 1 DAY A WEEK ,i feel just like Paul i am afraid of you ppl. What the law cd NOT do in that it was weak thru the flesh,God had to send his son in the form of sinful flesh to condemn sin in the flesh simply b/c the law cd NOT do it there is no more sabbath in Christ Jesus, Abide in me and i in you is a 24/7 Not one day a week, the kingdom of God has to be within us 24/7 as the scripture says the branches have to abide in the vine 24/7 not 1 day a week, the disciples followed Jesus 24/7 not 1 day a week. Our bodies are his temple 24/7 if ya have the H.G. That day of rest is in Christ Jesus a 1000 yr. day when Christ will reign on this earth that Kingdom that has not end. The mystery of the kingdom of God is christ in you 24/7 ok gbu
  • Chris - in Reply on Galatians 4
    Arissa, the reference to Isaac's persecution is in Gen 21:9: "And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking." We're not told what happened here, though it would no doubt have included about Ishmael's older age to Isaac (Ishmael was in his teens when Isaac was born) & his rights as the firstborn, & that Abraham celebrated Isaac's birth (v 8), whereas Ishmael's birth was a 'non-event'. However, Ishmael was not the son of Promise & was cast away, yet he would become a great nation yet still the enmity goes on between these 'brothers'.

    Of course, Muslims with their own interpretation & for their convenience, make Ishmael as the dominant son from Abraham, even to the point of Abraham taking him up to be sacrificed instead of Isaac. So we have many long-standing conflicts that cannot be easily resolved & no doubt it will have a greater bearing as the Anti-Christ comes to the fore.
  • Arissa Nolastname on Galatians 4
    Where in the Old Testament does it say that Ishmael persecuted Isaac? Galatians 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

    I believe this section 4:22-31 among many in the Bible has been tampered with to stir contention in the middle east, and divide the Muslim tribes from the Jews, and now too with a divisive wall between all 3.

    I am in Christ, but have never experienced true freedom, not because of the Ishmaelites, Muslims, but because of white supremacists who have been persecuting the Muslims, Jews, & Christians for a VERY LONG TIME.

    These white supremacists have used occultic practices to control minds, hearts and turn brother against brother.

    It's time for the true Christians to get up off their hind quarters and pray for the household of Abraham- for healing, reconciliation, peace and unity.

    The white supremacists don't want a house united because a house united means power that the white supremacists cannot dominate. Their army will be destroyed very quickly, so now they use surveillance and lethal drones which is a very cowardly thing to do. They feel powerful when they are armed with their hi-tech weapons, and only aim to kill people they provoke to lash out, just so they have a reason to arrest, blow up, bomb innocent children, and use the excuse that it was an accident.

    Enough perversion of the Scripture as white supremacists have done for years to keep people enslaved, ignorant, and even in separating them from their children.
  • Jollyfert - in Reply on Galatians 4:10
    The traditions of men, make the word of God of no effect.
  • Dee - in Reply on Galatians 4
    I've had this question as well. I found the same in Corinthians 14:34-35 and no scripture contrary to this. If someone can give scripture that states otherwise, I would like to follow-up. Thank you and May God continue to bless and keep all my sisters and brothers.
  • Diana connor - in Reply on Galatians 4
    No> I dont think so and it also depends on what it is your doing as long as you do it in a pleasing and mannerly way to God and keep reverence in his name it should be ok. all of us can be Jesus disciples and spread his words and carry yourself in woman of God and call upon the Holy Spirit to help renew and restore your life..
  • Seventh day is sabbath - in Reply on Galatians 4
    Shelly-We are not all in the same place with our walk with God, those people who seem to be having an easy time of life may have already gone through some hard times and who knows what the future holds? If we are going through hard times, rejoice!! God is working in us to bring us to a better understanding of where He wants us to be.
    1 Peter 4:13-16
    1 Peter 4:16-Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
  • Shelly on Galatians 4
    Why do some Christians be constantly going through hardships while other Christians think a personbis being punished by God fpr sinning as we all do
  • Julian williams - in Reply on Galatians 4
    I don't think it is correct. We do have women of God. We have pastors, reverend, prophetess etc that are women. Does that means they are not supposed to do Gods work?
  • Chev boy - in Reply on Galatians 4
    Yes. They are not to teach or instruct men from the Word in the assembly. But they are only allowed to teach ladies in ladies' separate meetings or children in the separate children's Scripture classes. Paul the last Apostle states this clearly twice in God's Word for our learning and obedience.
  • Julian Williams on Galatians 4
    Should women be silent in church ( 1 Cor 14: 34-35)
  • JaBu on Galatians 4
    1 Corinthians 15:1-4 (KJV) The fact of Christ's resurrection...

    Ephesians 2 (KJV) The method of Gentile salvation...
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Galatians 4
    Churches teach the day of the Lord and the day of Christ are two different days. Ask yourself this question.
    IS Jesus Christ the Lord? I say he is. Churches teach that these are 2 different events to slip in the pre trib rapture.
    Thus essentially denying that Jesus is the Lord.


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