I know there is so much conversations about the rapture and it is true that God is not the God of confusion but he is the God of love and peace. Jesus tells us that those who worship his father must worship him in spirit and in truth. There is no truth written in the bible about the rapture. People confuse the scripture that says and we will be caught up to be forever with the Lord.
THe thing that I have come to realize is this...The dead have already risen...God said to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord...He also said that he is the God of the living not the dead, and the thief hanging on the cross who accepted Christ was told that THIS day you would be with HIM in paradise. Therefore the dead are already raised and will not come from the grave. There will be no need for this body, they have already discarded it. I too have come to believe that there is no Rapture...those who can not see it must be those who have not ear to hear nor eye to see. The False Christ comes at the 6th trump and Christ at the 7th. We will be here and will not fly away. One question to possibly help those with trouble seeing this I have always had a problem with the scripture that talks about doing things orderly. That God is not the author of confusion...why then when He returns would He create Chaos? It is not His Nature. so if not His Nature what is...to tell His loved ones what to expect.
Verses 17 through 21. Talk about the rapture theory. covering God 's saving arms and teaching His children to fly to save their soul which the rapture is a false teaching. This is a prophesy written a long time ago right before 1830 when Margaret McDonald had a dream about the flying away doctrine which is false because Satan will come in the 6th seal, 6th trump, and 6th vial and will deceive just about the whole world according to Mark 13. 2 Thessalonian chapter 2 states that Satan will come first and Jesus will come in the trump farthest out which is the seventh.
I have for the past 3 4 days have been reading 12 through 14 chapters of Ezekiel, I am poised over this particular verse along with 21 23 verse. I have prayed and asked the Lord for understanding to reveal its meaning. I saw a picture of an actual garment with armpits sewn closed with a padded pillow to fit the opening by the false prophetess which results in a block to spiritual natural progress. It will seem unnatural in how it will happen. Agreement with a false and diabolical person acting as a medium is not Gods will for the child of God. It can only be a deception. Just a heart felt sincere opinion.
I read in believe in the second coming not a third and cannot find a partial or secret coming. Yes, we will all rise the dead first and yes, that is after the often scoffed at "dirt nap " they are asleep in Christ. They will rise first, then those that are alive. We will be changed and meet the Lord. The angels gather us from the four winds. Then almighty God 's wrath is poured out! Pre wrath not pre trib.
It 's amazing how intimate GOD is the fact he says he didnt create his people to be sad is mind blowing we were created to be happy. But the are wicked people who use witchcraft to destroy and control peoples lives. We we 're created to have Dominion not to dominate eachother thank GOD to JESUS who gives the hopeless hope who sets the captives free the shall be no enchantment against GODs people that will prosper.
verse 22 reminds me of all the churches who are accepting sin in the name of political correctness and telling the people they have nothing to worry about by living their sinful lifestyles... "you have a right to be happy...you 'll still go to heaven. " Instead of preaching the truth...that GOD should mean more to them than their lifestyles.
The written Holy Spirit inspired Word of The Living GOD is not to be mistaken as a trivia quiz. Where we question it or add to it. I beseech you brothern is what i hear the Lord say is why i came here and He spoke this book and chapter.
Respond to concern sister comments. This is what this means [18] And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the women that sew pillows to all armholes, and make kerchiefs upon the head of every stature to hunt souls! Will ye hunt the souls of my people, and will ye save the souls alive that come unto you?
Sew pillows � A figurative speech, expressing the security, which they promised to every one that came to them.
Kerchiefs � Triumphal caps, which were made by these prophetesses, and put upon the head of every who one consulted them, and by these they were to interpret, as a promise of victory over the Babylonians.
Stature � That is, of every age, whether younger or elder, which usually is seen by their stature.
To hunt � All this is really spreading a net, as hunters do, to catch the prey.
Will ye save � Can you preserve them alive, whom you deceive by your promises?
I totally agree, no Rapture.. False, Deceive'n.. Our own churches today, Will not teach what is written.Of the true live'n "WORD" of OUR GREAT TEACHER."JESUS CHRIST". There is Hide treasure, in OUR BIBLE. And nobody wants to teach the FACTS..
In reference to Ezekiel 13:18-22; Now this just my conjecture I'm not a Bible scholar, but I sincerely believe that these verses may be referring to witchcraft & familiar spirits. It also reminds me of ( Jeremiah 5:31)( Jeremiah 23:23-32) ( Micah 3:6-8)( I John 4:1)(II Peter2:1-3)
Also search the scriptures so that you are aware of what the Word of God truly says, not even these words read those scriptures for yourself. Remember we are living in the days of great deception so it's vitally important for you to know God's word. Amen? Love you with the Love of Christ!!
it doesn't matter if you don't believe in 'rapture' what matters is you should accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal Saviour, live righteously while waiting for His gloriously second coming. so when He arrives, since you have phobia for flying, you can tell Him to take you home (heaven) by road or sea.
We will meet Christ in the air and be changed from these bodies to celestial ones, but people add slot of things that are not biblically supported to the "rapture".
To "make them fly" in this sense, means to lie to the unrepentant sinners to them believe all is well. A real prophet would warn them that God's wrath is to come, but these false prophetesses are using God's name for payment.
While it's true that the word "rapture" is never mentioned in the bible, this is what happens:
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
I agree, God clearly said he is against the people who teach his children to fly to save their souls...Rapture is NEVER mentioned in the Bible anywhere....In order to clearly read/understand what this says, you need to research in Dr Strongs Con..and also see what each words means in Hebru.
Child of God you posted 1Thessalonians 4 where Paul starts the subject of people are not in graves who have died. Or where are the dead and we know their with the Father and they will return with Him, the LORD. At the 7th trump. You should of added some notes for the children reading it that clouds is Pauls street greek as he used in Romans that is a pack or crowed of people and if you look up the word air in this verse it is a higher level of thinking or a spirit body and not in the stratosphere or flying away. Anyway, the subject is not anyone being changedd but of where are the dead and Paul is saying they will return with the Lord. He made it clear in his 2nd letter as far as Christ return not to listen to that letter from him and goes on to explain the way it will be that no one will go any where until that falling away first the apostasy and that man of sin is revealed.
What? The verse is talking about false Prophetesses who are trying to control souls.Look in the bible were Saul had a Prophetesses bring Samuel back from the grave.. He was not happy.They are powerful spirits. God is not happy with there antcs either
I was also taught not to be deceived into believing the rapture. I believe that we need to study the word and that will be our armour to stand and fight against the antichrist. Most people are to blind to see the truth and they want to think that God will just fly them out of here before things get bad. The best thing we can do is pray for them because they will be easy pickings for the antichrist.
I AGREE WITH THESE COMMENTS , PEOPLE NEED TO START READING THEIR BIBLES FOR THEMSELVES, PREACHER AT MY CHURCH TEACHES RAPTURE BUT I DONT BELIEVE THAT WAY.. I DONT BELIEVE IN THE FLYING AWAY.. MY HUSBAND HAS TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE AN THEY DONT WANT TO HEAR IT. BEING STIFFNECKES..
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
I agree with Jessie the manuscripts clearly say ( you have sewn vails over my saving hands and teach MY childeren to fly to save there souls. The rapture wasnt even taught untill about the 1830s it is satans lieing message so people wont study the bible. People better get there strongs concordnance and really study there are a lot of false prophets today many more than most know.
I read on about this fly away stubling block taught to God`s children and in Ez. 14:10 they get theirs bad! Not only do they pay for their sins but anyone who falls for it, the sins that they committed. So the fly away teachers pay for all the sins of them that learn it. God really mad. Its a stumblingblock at vs. 7 says cause it trully takes away from Fathers grand plan for returning to save all His Children that waited for the true LORD. Why are thes chicken flyers so afraid of instead of christ, or antichrist who is going to give them all they want and wants to help them fly away. Only it is to FLY away to HELL! See you, don't want to be you. Have a nice trip.
When we read this chapter an look at vs. 5 a time set as in prophets meaning preachers cause they don't teach any truth now days. Fill the church with, better get saved. Salvation is great but that's what they preach and push the plate and attendance. They go on traditions of what was the church on getting big and not much for the soul. In this we mush remember the 10 scattered tribes from Syria that were taken captive and when over the carcuss mountains and settleing in the Europ, U.K. area. Also when we read james and the rest of the word. But the bible thumpers picked up that flay away doctrin in 1830 from preachers of the U,K. Probly trying to bring in the pagans on the out side. As Easter, word is not in the Bible in Acts, its Passover! And the pagans and churches mixed into the Passover the pagan worship of quick like a bunny and eggs of fertillity. So rapture is pagan. God is the one who returns as the Lion to save us and these fly away folks miss the whole point of letting God show us His love that He has for us.
Made a misstake . This one is better.Now you know what God thinks about the rapture. He hates it. Woe to them that teach it. its not in the Word of God. If the Elect are God`s best and stand and stay how can a pew sitter that receive very little teaching in the truth gets to fly away.. and at what trump. One preacher said on t.v. that the 7th trump came before the 6th and that's how they would fly. 7 is after 6? Are they crazy! Sorry about that last statement, tired going to sleep.
Sew pillows � A figurative speech, expressing the security, which they promised to every one that came to them.
Kerchiefs � Triumphal caps, which were made by these prophetesses, and put upon the head of every who one consulted them, and by these they were to interpret, as a promise of victory over the Babylonians.
Stature � That is, of every age, whether younger or elder, which usually is seen by their stature.
To hunt � All this is really spreading a net, as hunters do, to catch the prey.
Will ye save � Can you preserve them alive, whom you deceive by your promises?
Also search the scriptures so that you are aware of what the Word of God truly says, not even these words read those scriptures for yourself. Remember we are living in the days of great deception so it's vitally important for you to know God's word. Amen? Love you with the Love of Christ!!
While it's true that the word "rapture" is never mentioned in the bible, this is what happens:
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.