Ezekiel Chapter 13 Discussion

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  • Brian yurkovich for verse 20
    The pillows are from the hive of locust in the pit. They want too transform us from angels to men to locust.
  • Susan
    Use a Strong's Concordance, look up the words "cloud" and "air" in 1 Thes 4: 16-17. 16:"the Lord will descend from heaven with a shout, voice of archangel, and with the trumpet of God" (book of Revelations refers to the 7th trump)

    "and the dead in Christ shall rise first" as Jesus told the thief on the cross that he would be in paradise with him THAT day. 17:"in the clouds" hebrew meaning, "in crowds", and "in the air" hebrew meaning, "spirit form". Also, "Satan will deceive the world" with his talks of peace and "flying away". 6th trump will be "fly away to be saved" by the Antichrist. 7th trump: WE, US, Armor up! Jesus cleanses the world! Check it out! Love you, ALL my friends in Christ.
  • Mountain Preacher
    Thank you Chris . I still find this to be a strange saying .
  • Mountain Preacher
    Verse 18 makes refrence to " Pillows to Armholes ". What are these and what is meant by it. ?
  • Chris
    In Ezekiel 13, the prophecy is against the prophets who prophesy "out of their own hearts & wills" (v 2) & not from God's Word to them. Apparently, both men & women were guilty of this despicable act & the warning was to the men (vv 1-16) & also to the false women prophets (vv 18-23).

    It is difficult to interpret verse 18 correctly, as commentators have given several meanings, but it appears that as a result of false prophetic utterings, both the men & women claiming to give the people God's Word, were doing so using divination & occultic practises (vv 6-9, 23). So verse 18 seems to refer to one such practice employed by the 'women prophetesses', that is, those "that sew pillows to all armholes, and make kerchiefs upon the head of every stature to hunt souls! Will ye hunt the souls of my people, and will ye save the souls alive that come unto you?"

    It seems that these women graphically portrayed their authority from God & message of peace ("which see visions of peace for (Israel), and there is no peace" v 16). They wore veils (kerchiefs = handkerchiefs) over their heads pretending to be in touch with God & also resting comfortably at their tables (pillows at their 'elbows' = armholes = armpits) visually indicating the continuing peace & security of Israel (vv 10,11). All this is false prophecy the LORD had declared, rather, Israel would suffer much pain & hardship (vv 10-15).

    I hope that I have given you as close an understanding to your query, though I remain open to other people's interpretation to this.
  • Taneshiabutler
    Who is lifier in the bible?
  • Arpan
    Did evil spirit prophecy about someone's death in bible?
  • Dave
    what about Ezekiel 13:20 ? I am against your pillows, who hunt souls to make them fly
  • Sunday Oladimeji
    One should be wary of false prophets. Jesus said if it is possible they will deceive the elects by false wonders! To be for warned is to be for harmed!Therefore to know the true prophets, one should not look for wonders or charisma or oratory because these can be fake. But one should look for fruit character which is the true identity of a person. "By their fruit ye shall know them" - Jesus
  • Davis Petit
    Ya'll can keep looking for Asparagus Christ. If I see sum'n flyin' in the sky I'm gonna mistake it for a turkey. Look at the Hebrew for pillows (Concealment) Concealing What? Truth Of Course! His Torah/Word! "Is Rex Lex? or Is Lex Rex?" Is The King Law? or Is The Law King?" The Answer? Both! He Is King of Kings And Lord Of Lords! Make your Calling And Election Sure! Shalom Elechem!
  • Emanuel Fernandes
    The answer is yes if your a true kjv believer
    RIGHTEOUS ARE HIS JUDGEMENT it's a joy to the righteous and a Terror to the wicked
  • A disciple
    "Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life:" One of the Lord's woes pronounced against the scribes and Pharisees was because they made their proselytes twice the sons of the devil as themselves; Matthew 23:15. So are many in Churches today!
  • A disciple
    Ezekiel 13 (cont. 2); "Therefore thus saith the Lord God; I will even rend it with a stormy wind in my fury; and there shall be an overflowing shower in mine anger, and great hailstones in my fury to consume it." Does anyone think that the people in Texas or Florida or Mexico are sinners more than anyone else because these things are happening to them? It is a warning to all men, REPENT OR PERISH!
  • A disciple
    Ezekiel 13 (cont.); "Lo, when the wall is fallen, shall it not be said unto you, Where is the daubing wherewith ye have daubed it?" Jesus said that when we shall be brought before Governors and Kings to testify the Word of God to them; and when all men are hating and persecuting us; many shall be scandalized and betray one another. These are the ones who are still sinning and expecting fantasies.
  • A disciple
    "Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered mortar: say unto them which daub it with untempered mortar, that it shall fall: there shall be an overflowing shower; and ye, O great hailstones, shall fall; and a stormy wind shall rend it." Still sinning? NO PEACE! False hopes! End in ruin!
  • Golddgr
    Read John 14 about Jesus coming and taking us to the Father's House the place where Jesus Christ went and is at, and will come back and take us there. This has to be Father's House in Heaven because that is where Jesus Christ went. It is not on this planet! Never has been. Heaven is God's Throne. We will be "raptured" up and taken there to Heaven..this is the only way this can be understood.
  • Insight777
    V18, this is a parable of the future war and the pillows are parachutes soldiers use to drop into battle areas to hunt the enemy. The kerchiefs are the woven technology in the helmets, statue. This infiltration causes pilots to enter fighter jets to fly over and hunt the hunters.
  • A disciple
    "Lo, when the wall is fallen, shall it not be said unto you, Where is the daubing wherewith ye have daubed it?" When we are all brought before the Judgment Throne at the last day, what will we answer Him who knows us and all our ways? What will become of us by all that we have believed and said, if our doings made us other than what He commanded? And when He sent to speak to us, we shook our head?
  • Grady
    As I read it saddens me to see Christians in great debate over nothing. If you don't look for the rapture you have made your choice. If you argue the method you have wasted your time, No you have wasted Gods time. Who sets out to waste Gods time? Gods will be done.
  • Bruce
    Duncan:Yes! You are learning. That's why when the Trump sounds "The Dead" in Christ will rise and then those who are alive will be caught up together./ where will you be if: you neglect so great a Salvation, is this the final Call:John 6:44 / whosoever: Revelation20:15
  • Duncan
    Here God rebukes rapture. 1Thessalonians ch. 4, go back to v 13 and pick up subject, asleep means already dead. 2 Thessalonians ch. 2 Paul corrects those who misinterpret meaning of our gathering together unto the Lord. Read whole chapter.
  • Word
    Ruben Sierra can't change minds on what they learned from those who put out the rapture and they read it in this chapter about preachers who make up this divine dream out of their own minds and that God hates those who teach his children the lie that they will fly away. A false Christ Satan comes who will pay all their bills telling them they are to gather up in Jerusalem. 7th trump they all die.
  • Bruce
    1 Thessalonians 4:14-18:--- which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. Our Savior himself shall descend from heaven with the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first:we which are live and remain shall be caught up with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and so shall we Everbe with the Lord.Wherefore comfort one another with these Words.( Spoken by our "Savior"!) God's Son
  • Ruben Sierra
    Concerning the rapture God tells Satan in Ezekiel 13 that this false story from Satan will be torn from satans hand that he will fly us all away in the rapture but you can't find it in The Bible because God told (tells) Satan that this lie will not stand as God wrote the truth in Ezekiel 13 and God will put the truth in our and hand by are knowledge and work of the truth God tares us from Satan
  • Bruce
    Nann,Janet:1Corinthians15:52-last trump- the dead shall rise---. 1 Thessalonians 4:16--trump of God-- dead in Christ shall rise first:17: -we which are alive and remain shall be "caught up" together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air:---.18: Wherefore comfort one another with these words. Caught up:RAPTURED! Unbelieving and loss: Revelation 20:15. Eternity where will you be!
  • Maria Morales
    God was angry with the prophets who were lying to the king of Judah and prophesying lies saying there would be peace for Jerusalem when God had spoken by his prophets captivity, famine and pestilence if they didn't surrender to the king of Babylon. The daughters here are witches doing witchcraft which is against the law of Yah.
  • Gracious.
    To God almighty be all the glory,for the power in his word.The truth.Ezekiel 13,is very liberating,because God is exposing lot of secrets,and also warning us of the concisqence of malipulating people to suit,what agenda they are planning .
    Evil controll,malipulation is the spirit of witchcraft.Depend on the culture or nations you come from,they are practised,even here
  • Nannette
    Thank YAH for JESUS and good teachers. The LORD is coming here where will we be able to fly to. Image- Jesus did not even leave by flying but was taken up.
  • Michael C.
    To Janet and Ken, and whoever else it may apply to; The rapture is not theory, or man's idea; the Holy Spirit spoke of it many times throughout the Bible. I will be happy to give you some of those scriptures, when there's a genuine interest to know if these things are so. The fallacy however, as I see it, is in the belief that it will be before the actual Day of the Lord, and the coming of Christ.
  • Stephen F. Zielski
    Only our Abba Dad and God Almighty Yahweh

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