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  • Helena
    Why don't Christians cast out demons? Jesus said too do this Mark 16:17
  • Chris
    Helena, Jesse has written correctly that these signs (vv 17,18), would be a necessary part for establishing the new Church & witness to the heathen around them. So even though the purpose of signs has generally ended, we cannot quench the work of the Spirit (the One Who gave Power & fulfilment to those signs). I say this guardedly, as I have evidence of mighty works of the Spirit when the situation required it. In the West, we don't see much evidence of demonic possession, maybe demonic oppression - there is a difference. In lands where there is idolatry & evil practices, we have seen demonic powers at work. In one instance, at a Bible Study in Pakistan, as I shared, a woman began to shake violently. It wasn't about anything I was speaking about, but, because the Holy Word of God was being read, that which possessed her was being agitated. A Pakistani brother then proceeded to cast out that foul spirit & she was released & was joyful again. How powerful is God's Word: our Sword.
  • Jesse
    Jesus is not talking about all believers. In Verse 14 to Verse 18, you can see that Jesus is commissioning the 11 before sending them out. They are the ones that will do these things, not just casting out demons, but all the things listed in Verses 17 and 18. It was for the 11 that Jesus was sending out.

    We see the confirmation in Verse 20 where the 11 went forth, confirming the word with signs following.

    Hebrews 2:2 tells us that when the apostles went out and preached that there were signs that followed in order to establish the apostles preaching as the gospel of God. And that is what he is saying here.

    There were various signs that were worked by Jesus through the disciples in order to confirm the message they were hearing is the gospel. It doesn't say every person that believes down through history is going to manifest all these various things, but rather, for the confirmation of the establishment of the Word of God, which we have with us today. Therefore, we don't need signs!
  • Carl
    Hi Luci,

    My heart goes out to you. I don't have any answers for you, but I feel with you. Relationships can be so difficult, especially within family, and when you have no idea why. It sounds like you only meant well, so I'm sorry it went the way it did. 1 Peter 2:20 is a real comfort: "For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God." When you suffer after doing well, and take it patiently, God notices and will give you His grace and power to carry on! I will pray for you and your family. He only wants the best for you!
  • Karen
    What does the Bible talk about with the spirit realm Are Spirit guides real and can someone communicate with them What about mediums
  • Bob Hilt
    Karen oh yes the Spirit realm is real and they do communicate with them. This practice is forbidden of the Lord as it is essentially consorting with the enemies of the Lord. Familiar means they are well acquainted with them.

    Leviticus 20:27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.

    Do you wonder why TV and movies have so much witchcraft as the theme

    Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer (allow) a witch to live.
  • Turkessa lewis
    How do i walk in the spirit
  • Chris
    Turkessa...Your question is short, but the answer is long...too long for this type of commenting. Could I direct you to an old book (and there are many good books on this subject), by J.I. Packer, "Keep in step with the Spirit". It is a good fundamental book that will help direct you in Godly living, listening out for the Spirit's inner voice in you, and obedience to His directions. If you put the Lord first in everything in your life, you can be certain that He will guide & keep you & alert you when at times you stray & not follow His Will. Psalms 32:8 is for you: "I will instruct thee & teach thee in the way which thou shalt go: I will guide thee with mine eye".
  • Laneyboy01
    It's logical that spirit beings have a higher mode of transportation and communication than we do. What Ezekiel saw is closely akin to what John saw in Revelation. They travel much faster than light speed for the human eye can't see them unless they slow their physics down to less than light speed. Think about it! Their technology is much more advanced than ours. For instance, the universe is 13-14 billion years old, but it's 40 something billion light years across. Spirit physics is DIFFERENT. When God spoke the universe into being, He used His undiminished energy to expand it, that also explains dark (unseen) energy and dark matter. Give credit to Him. Satan created evil, sin and death!
  • Chris
    An interesting subject for thought. My personal impression, as part of my musings, is that spirit beings were not governed by natural physics of movement but rather like the teleporting observed in the series: Star Trek! In that show, men had to de-materialize, go through a teleporter, & re-materialize at the destination. Of course, spirit beings have no physical material to 'de-moleculize', but the manner by being in one place & in the next moment, in another, seems logical to me. The fact that even evil spirits can inhabit both man & beast serves to describe not only their substance but power to move (at an inconceivable speed) according to their will.
  • Bob Hilt
    I do not know about all that speed of light stuff. I do know Paul spoke of a 4th dimension that may just be where the spririts have access to. Ephesians Chapter 3: 16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
    17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
    18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
    1. breadth, and 2. length, and 3. depth, and 4. height
    Maybe the spirits exist in our 3 dimensions when they wish and exist in a spirit realm of the 4th?
    the Bible does not give a lot of insight into this.
  • Stanjett
    Sounds like a helichopper to me.
  • Elly
    Only a true prophet chosen by God can reveal the meaning of this vision. "I, the Lord God, will do nothing unto the children of men save I reveal it to my servant the Prophets first." After the death of Christ Apostles the fulness of truth was taken off the earth as prophesied it would be. Men had bits of truth, but not all. Scriptures tell us the fulness will be restored 1 last time before Christ
  • Renee
    It speaks about demonic alien creatures. I'm not sure which first remember Satan is the prince of air. And in the end of times I believe from the Rapture happens that this will be a Satanist excuse for where everyone went. The trust me the Bible speaks very much of what we call aliens. If you check your Bible for aliens and you will find the Bible speaks of them over 30 times.
  • Ann
    The UFO's are demons.
  • Laneyboy01
    Not necessarily demons but can be chosen of the angelic realm. Both have the technology to have certain craft available. What John saw in Revelation is closely akin to what Ezekiel saw in chapter 1. How does God travel? Extremely faster than light and so do the spirit realm, that's why we don't see them unless they slow their spirit structure down to light speed or less
  • Jc
    not demons thy are other being believe what you read
  • Don
    UFOs are real .. real?
  • Adam
    There's many UFOs, which by definition are unidentified flying objects- people when seeing them didn't know what they were. Just because people didn't know what they were doesn't mean there's not a logical explanation for them. We have many unidentified, unexplained phenomenon occurring elsewhere too, like on land, ocean, and outer space that we can't explain either. What a marvelous creation.
  • Melkages
    the so-called UFOs do not exist. We live on the face of the earth which has ends and enclosed by the firmament!
  • Teodor
    You mean you have doubt? It is a well known fact UFO's are real. Besides i saw one in 2010 with my grandfather.
  • Scott
    The ufo is only a makeshift weather Baloon they used in this time period to measure the atmospheric pressure to assist in farm crops.
  • Gary Olsen
    What Ezekiel saw was a vision given to him by God. In Ezekiel 11:24 and 25, this is clearer. John was also given visions by our Lord. In Revelation 4:2 and 17:3, John writes about this.
  • Si13ntk40s
    He put the wheel of time on their heads to mark their deaths. He must have been angry with the people.
  • Tricia
    Unfortunately, I do not understand anything I just read in this chapter unfortunately. but I pray God give me wisdom.
    The only part I understand is the part with the throne and the figure of the man.
  • Wolfen244
    Tricia, Take it by the numbers. ))) This vision was similar to Isaiah's visitation of 4 seraphs and Daniel's dream of 4 beasts and John the Revelator's Revelation when he was "in the spirit". They all had very similar "beasts with 6 wings". Ezekiel had the most attributes - 6 wings, 4 faces, rings so high they were dreadful, eyes all around and "wheels as it were in the middle of a wheel". 4 faces - calf, man, lion & eagle - are similar to earth, wind, fire and water as in the cryptogram in Ecclesiastes 1 and Genesis 1. Although yoga is a 4-letter word to Christians, those attributes point directly toward both yoga and another 4-letter word - meditation. Now it's up to you. Good luck Tricia
  • Tricia Browne
    Thank you. I am sure to read up on those chapters some more. I always heard YOGA is no good.
  • Wolfen244
    Tricia Browne, yoga is definitely a four-letter word to mainstream Christianity however it is because mainstream Christianity has an extreme bias because they are deathly afraid of letting the Devil into your head because they are afraid of the other four-letter word meditation. Meditation and yoga make Christianity crazy. So, when John the Revelator was "in the spirit", precisely what does that actually mean? Being "in the spirit" IS meditation!!!!!! If so then - and it is - why wasn't John afraid that the Devil was actually in his mind controlling him? Not one word of fear from John since John was INTENTIONALLY being in the spirit or he was INTENTIONALLY meditating and was unafraid of the Devil getting into his mind. YOU Tricia shouldn't be afraid either. Relax and close your eyes and realize that ONLY The Lord will enter your Temple of God - your body - not the Devil. Read Revelation 3:20 as the Lord wants to come into your Temple and "sup" with you - and you with Him.
  • Paul Hai
    Ezekiel Chapter 1 is now fully translated at haitheory through a series of study slides.
    The wheels within wheels are the machines used to construct Khufu's Great Pyramid.
    The 'vault in the sky' is the twenty tonne entrance door of the Great Pyramid. This vault is seventeen metres above ground level, so 'in the sky', so to speak, as we speak today of 'skyscrapers', ground based and also in the sky
  • Wolfen244
    Paul, No. The "wheels as it were in the middle of a wheel" are chakras. That is precisely what chakra means - wheels as it were in the middle of a wheel. God is telling you to teach yourself to meditate using the seven chakras or spiritual centers or seven churches or seven seals - however you think about it. It's that simple. The spirits in the wheels are the mind cells of each of the seven seals. The four living beings only represent the 4 chakras in your torso as they are your animal or mindless chakras or earthly chakras as opposed to your heavenly chakras - on earth as it is in heaven.


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