Exodus Chapter 4 Discussion



 
  • Mountain Preacher on Exodus 4
    It is verses such as 24 that causes the unsaved to question the fairness of God.. Moses was doing what God had commanded yet God was going to kill him . I must admit it has me scratching my head .
  • Chris - in Reply on Exodus 4
    A few weeks ago I had shared my understanding of this Scripture (Exodus 4:24) to someone else, so I replicate that answer to you:

    "Yes, this is a difficult verse to place, given the context of the other verses around it. It is understood that God is now dealing with Moses on another issue. The first matter was about Moses giving excuses as to why he could not approach Pharaoh & speak God's Word to him. Moses eventually agreed to do it, given that Aaron would be his mouthpiece.

    Then in verse 24, we find that God had some reason for taking Moses' life. It wasn't about the former matter but about Moses' neglect in circumcising his son. It may be because of his marriage to the Midianitish woman, Zipporah, & some issue of circumcision had come up that caused him to overlook or refuse to do this act. There could have been other (negative) dealings by God on this family as well, which then compelled Zipporah to take matter into her own hands (so to speak) & do the circumcising herself. Whatever it was, God seemed appeased by Zipporah's actions, that which Moses had failed to perform."
  • Tom Wagner on Exodus 4
    Exodus 4 verse 24.

    i do not understand it
  • Chris - in Reply on Exodus 4
    Yes, this is a difficult verse to place, given the context of the other verses around it. It is understood that God is now dealing with Moses on another issue. The first matter was about Moses giving excuses as to why he could not approach Pharaoh & speak God's Word to him. Moses eventually agreed to do it, given that Aaron would be his mouthpiece.

    Then in verse 24, we find that God had some reason for taking Moses' life. It wasn't about the former matter but about Moses' neglect in circumcising his son. It may be because of his marriage to the Midianitish woman, Zipporah, & some issue of circumcision had come up that caused him to overlook or refuse to do this act. There could have been other (negative) dealings by God on this family as well, which then compelled Zipporah to take matter into her own hands (so to speak) & do the circumcising herself. Whatever it was, God seemed appeased by Zipporah's actions, that which Moses had failed to perform.
  • BSP on Exodus 4
    Verse 11: We often place limits on ourselves, but Jehovah God can equip us for any task that we need to accomplish.
  • Emily on Exodus 4
    Moses said that the Hebrews might not believe him that the LORD had appeared to him or wouldn't listen to him, just like some people won't listen or believe the Gospel.All we can do is pray for them.
  • Evangelizing by Mishael on Exodus 4
    This place is so blessed to have many evangelists and old street preachers in here!! We have got stories to tell you can't even imagine. Miracles, healings, people being saved by Jesus! Big ole scary demons mad because we took someone off the fence of indecision and put them on a new walk with Jesus! I am so blessed.

    You have no idea how much fun it can be to reach out to the lost. The blessing of just following Jesus! The One who shows us how to do it right in the Gospels of our Bibles. You can never go wrong copying Jesus.
  • Paul on Exodus 4
    Is God responsible for babies being born deaf, dumb, blind? or with other disabilities?

    I don't know. I believe the son's of perdition have much to do with the evils of this world, including birth defects.

    But this I know, Christ went about doing good and healed multitudes of people.

    If persons are born defected, Christ can heal them.

    It's sad to know they took our God and hung Him on a tree saying "others he saved but himself he cannot."

    When goodness is deliberately destroyed, we can only expect bad to happen.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Exodus 4
    Paul,

    If I can just add one thing to some already great answers, all the armies of the world could not have taken Christ. No earthly power could have taken Him. Jesus Christ came and freely gave Himself to the cross, fulfilling the purpose for which He came.
  • Paul - in Reply on Exodus 4
    Jesse

    In the same Spirit of the apostles I say it's sad to know they took our God and hung Him on a tree saying, "others he saved himself he cannot."

    Peter declared, "But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;"

    Stephen declared before his martyr, "Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

    "Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:"

    Our Lord asked, " O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt."

    It is easier to sympathize for Judas saying it was scripted for him to betray our Lord?

    Why should Judas be damned when he only fulfilled prophecy?

    Have we sympathized to our Lord?

    Is it not sad that because of evil men our Lord was crucified?

    Or do we say, Oh well, it had to be that way?

    When the scriptures say God is merciful and longsuffering, we have no idea how longsuffering our God is regarding us.

    Would it not be an unbearable thought to find out an evil king commanded that every male infant from age 2 under be slaughtered because you or I was born?

    Do we sympathize with Judas? or our Lord?

    Our Lord came to save us from the Judas' who killed the prophets and resist the Holy Ghost.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Exodus 4
    Paul,

    Please know that I am not disagreeing with anything you are saying here. It is indeed sad that Jesus who had no sin, would come and die for a world full of sin. It's also sad to know that people still continue to reject the love that Christ showed and the gift He has to offer to those who have the heart to receive that gift. Sad indeed!
  • Paul - in Reply on Exodus 4
    Jesse

    I am direct sometimes too much so when I reply and I apologize for my being overly direct to you.

    I was raised in a Roman Catholic family of Italian decent.

    But I am a Mormon having chosen to be baptized into the Mormon faith at age 8 and adopted into Israel through faith in Christ.

    My family have moved from Catholic to Born Agains and hate Mormonism and I am commenting on a medium I believe does not accept Mormonism and I have had some negative replies but because of Mormonism, I understand the Bible more than most not of my faith and this because of the Book of Mormon and the testimony of Jesus Christ.

    And my comments are influenced by what I know from study and will defend my faith for I have examined my faith.

    I like this King James Version of the Bible, which is a little different than what I am used to.

    For example, this version uses the upper and lower casing of LORD and Lord more often.

    I know I will suffer in Christ for my belief in Christ all the days of my life and I find it a joy and pleasure.

    My heart's desire is that my heart may be correct with Him.

    That I may be unto God a burnt offering and sweet savour in our Lord, Jesus Christ, for I have no other desire.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Exodus 4
    False Prophets and False Teachers have been around as long as the Bible has been.

    You should get a King James Bible with a large concordance and center of pages columns. Compare yours versus Gods Word. You are going to choose one over the other. I hope you choose right.

    Creation alone is enough to help you choose God; Jesus. If not, then you are reprobate in your convictions opposite of what you can see with your own eyes.

    Romans 1

    18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

    19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

    20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE.

    21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

    22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

    23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

    24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

    25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    26 FOR THIS CAUSE God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature

    27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence

    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a REPROBATE MIND
  • Delia Lazo Ruiz - in Reply on Exodus 4
    AMEN. So many verses, I am excited to see other people glorify our Savior Redeemer Jesus. By using the King James Version Bible means so much to me. Saved since 1979, I am grateful for the grace and mercy of Father upon my own life and the lives of my children and their childrens lives. I pray in the word of Father and pray for others also in the name of Jesus. Thank you for your comments.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Exodus 4
    It was my Grandmother's letters of love and forgiveness that went with me through the darkness of my young years. It was the one thing I had to hold onto.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Exodus 4
    Do you really understand what Mormonism is?

    In their Doctrines and Covenants of the Mormon faith they teach that Jesus is the brother of Satan.

    Do you understand that means your savior is the brother of Satan.

    The Bible teaches Jesus created all things, including Satan in

    John 1:3 All things were made by (Jesus) him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    Mormonism is a denial of the King James Bible since Jesus said:

    John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is FINISHED finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

    Mormonism is another testament, another gospel so basically this means it was not finished as the work of Christ.

    Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

    Ask yourself if this means Mormonism is cursed?

    Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel (MORONi) from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Do you really want to trust an angel named MORONi

    Do we really believe that Christianity was lost till Joseph Smith found some golden plates that no one knows where they are and an angel named MORONi visited him?

    Are you prepared to tell Jesus your savior that he is the brother of Satan?

    That is what Mormonism teaches. That the King James is full of errors and that they have another gospel.

    Please consider this carefully.

    Funny how the archaeologists of the USA can not find any traces of the Nephites or Lamenites civilizations Smith wrote about.
  • Will The Church Crawl Away and Shrivel - in Reply on Exodus 4
    You need to take time in the Book of Acts. This is the Church, Jesus died for. He didn't disappear and leave them alone. Only until Pentecost. When that Mighty Rushing Wind came through the Upper Room, of The Promised Holy Spirit; the disciples were filled so full of His presence that they exploded in praise as the Tongues of Fire they were seeing lept around the room over their heads. It was more than glorious.

    The people in the street saw and heard the disciples. They were energized with indescribable joy. This is what Jesus had told to them! This was the fulfilling of promise. The church was up and aflame. It spilled out into the streets. The disciples were no longer afraid and doubting; barely hanging onto faith.

    We can have that. When we obey Jesus and do as he said at the end of the Book of John; we will experience that power and joy.

    I hear very little preached on FAITH very much. Jesus is still saving and healing people. Very few have a pulsating faith to reach out and take hold of Jesus. Does anyone know 10 healing scriptures by heart?

    We all need to ask Jesus for another refilling of the Holy Spirit. If you feel dry and lifeless, just ASK HIM! We need the anointing oil of the Holy Spirit. If we read and read and read the Bible and there is no outflow onto others; we're clogged.

    How do I know all this? I've rarely spoken on this. I know that the Holy Spirit does Home visitations. I experienced an event that is burned into my heart and brain and eyes. That's how I know the Holy Spirit is looking for those who will take Him at His Word. We are his disciples now.

    If all that happens is, in a chair railing and ranting against the Jews of Israel; not much is going to happen. The Jews are Jesus's personal business. He don't need your help.

    Don't dry up on the ground like a piece of toast, that the birds come and carry away.

    Be refilled with oil; be anointed by the Holy Spirit.
  • Chris - in Reply on Exodus 4
    I don't believe that we can ever hold God responsible for birth defects or appearance of diseases such as cancers or deteriorating organ functions in adults. I realize that we enjoy blaming Satan for all our woes, but in fact that is not always the case. God created mankind perfect though man chose to go his own way being filled with pride so as to be like God. This fallen nature that we refer to as the sin nature, has corrupted every facet of our being: spirit, soul & body. And so death is the prospect of every living organism, & it may well come as a blessed relief to mankind so as to be released from this deterioration & ageing of our bodies. But the unsaved believes that death ends it all for them & so they should enjoy life to the fullest, whatever the cost.

    And yet, after a sinner receives God's Salvation, the new believer still remains in the body of corruption & suffer the same fate as any other. But the spirit of man is renewed (born again) that he might have his sins forgiven & have the hope of everlasting life with his Creator, that which the unsaved won't receive nor is it their desire. So we can also see that the same unsaved now could taunt the Saviour, "He saved others; Himself He cannot save", not realizing that it was for their sins that He came & gave His Life on the cross, but they would rather mock Him & God's provision of a sacrificial Lamb.

    God, in a moment, made for us the greatest payment that we could never hope to make. Man, for eternity, will suffer the consequences of his rejection of that payment.
  • Bianca Peterson on Exodus 4
    In verse 21 even though God knew that Pharaoh would harden his heart he still made sure that he received warning. This shows that God didn't want to destroy Pharaoh but he gave him time to change his thinking and ways.
  • Job on Exodus 4
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    And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD? I'll answer your question with another question Lord: Why you make the dumb, deaf and the blind?
  • Chosen by Him - in Reply on Exodus 4
    Romans 9:20-24

    20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
    21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
    22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
    23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
    24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

    God has already answered you in the Eternal Scriptures!
  • Floss on Exodus 4
    Regarding Exodus 4:11 And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?
    also, Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations."
    Also, the man born blind John 9:3 "Neither this man nor his parents sinned," said Jesus, "but this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life.
    Is God responsible for babies being born deaf, dumb, blind? or with other disabilities? I am also thinking about John the Baptist who had the Holy Spirit in the womb and already being chosen, etc. etc.
  • Stan jett on Exodus 4
    And Moses said unto the LORD, O my Lord, I am not eloquent, neither heretofore, nor since thou hast spoken unto thy servant: but I am slow of speech, and of a slow tongue. When I was a kid, like Moses, I also could not talk plain. Some said I was tongue tied. Which made me very bashful.Anyone asked me a question, even if I knew it, I would say I don't know. I can surely understand Moses here.
  • BSP on Exodus 4
    Verse 14~Jehovah God was patient with Moses in reassuring him of his support, but Moses continued to question and doubt God and this made God angry.
  • Jo on Exodus 4
    God did not attend to kill Moses, Moses had to circumcise his son Eliezer or God was going to kill his son. It was their custom to circumcise the males. Since Moses had Eliezer by Zippotah, while in Egypt, it wasn't the Egyptians way. The blessings of God flow down the family tree and Abraham, so all males in that family need to be circumcised if not they will be cut off.... Killed.
  • MARIA BEUCK on Exodus 4
    To THINK ,SAY and DO GOD's WILL all GREATIONs TODAY s LIVE. No ONE MUST BE EXCUDED for KINGDOM BUILDING. REVELETION 4 (heading; HEAVENLY WORKSHIP)
  • Surferlaments on Exodus 4
    what do i really think? just how lucky that moses was in being picked by God to do God's work here on earth.
  • Evans on Exodus 4
    Israel is the first born of God.if you bless Israel you're blessed.
  • Frank - in Reply on Exodus 4
    Jesus is the first born of God and the only begotten of God.
  • Sonja on Exodus 4
    Moses didn't feel confident to this work but the Lord kept assuring him He'd help him. In verse 24 the Lord (strict?) in obedience


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