Ephesians Chapter 3 Discussion

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  • Robert DeHaan on Ephesians 3
    And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that he may be filled with all the fulness of God. It is difficult to me to wrap my mind around being filled with the fulness of God. But what greater gift than to receive such as the most incredible gift, Jesus Christ the Son of God and Son of man. Holy Spirit touch us each day in a way that we knowingly are filled with the fulness of the Father. Help us to fill our hearts daily by Your Word. Thank you Jesus for dying for such a sinner as I. Forgiveness from sin should light the fire of revival in our souls.
  • Rob on Ephesians 3
    This chapter is future , the ages to come , world without end , all through Christ by Gods eternal plan . We have a lot to look forward to those of us in Christ !

    I can imagine the Hallelujah chorus being 1000 times more amazing!
  • Gayle on Ephesians 3:20
    GOD is an AWESOME GOD:::::: I read this scripture daily..... And I tell you the more I read,,,,,, the more Blessings come my way........ Keep reading my bros. and sis.
  • Where in the bible that it is written worlds without end Chapter and verse on Ephesians 3:21
    Where in the bible it is written, worlds without end
  • Ephesians 319-20 World Without End - in Reply on Ephesians 3:21
    19And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

    20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,

    21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
  • Venantius moore on Ephesians 3:15
    who are the whole family in heaven and earth is named
  • LINDA HARRIS on Ephesians 3
    My nurse dropped me and I was crippled for life who am I
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Ephesians 3
    Hey Linda - 2 Samuel 4:4 And Jonathan, Saul's son, had a son that was lame of his feet. He was five years old when the tidings came of Saul and Jonathan out of Jezreel, and his nurse took him up, and fled: and it came to pass, as she made haste to flee, that he fell, and became lame. And his name was Mephibosheth.
  • Marlene on Ephesians 3
    Who was the mother of Mary the mother of Jesus
  • Mishael - in Reply on Ephesians 3
    Her name was Anna
  • James brooks on Ephesians 3
    There is nothing in the New Testament commanding a follower of Christ to tithe;period. Stop lying on GOD and telling people that tithing and giving an offering is the same thing.If you feed people things that the Bible does not say.that,s antichrist speaking.'God says H e loves a cheerful giver,not a cheerful tither. Revelation 22:18&19,2 Timothy 4:1-3.All scripture is given by inspiration of GOD;not man.when I think about tithing i think about Exodus 35and36 when the people were told to stop bringing.GOD,s people will give without being told.GOD Bless.
  • Chris - in Reply on Ephesians 3
    You're quite correct James; tithing was an OT practice & of course, offerings are generally regarded as gifts aside from tithes. "That every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver" (2 Corinthians 9:7). So we are advised to give out of the willingness & cheerfulness of our hearts, so whether our gifts are big or small, it is God that will multiply & use it for His Purposes. However, tithing is a good way to guide believers, particularly new ones, as to responsible giving. After all, 10% is not much, & for those struggling to even give this, then they can give what they can cheerfully, or even see the Lord "pour them out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it" (Malachi 3:10). I knew a young man, who gave 30% of his salary & then put aside some for the provision to missionaries. May have been a big sacrifice, but he never had a shortfall. He is Faithful.
  • Rod - in Reply on Ephesians 3
    Hi Chris: tithing is under the Jewish Law, we Gentiles were never part of the Jewish law or the convenant God made to the Jews, so to teach new belivers to tithe as part of giving is confusion, and confusion is not of God ( Ist Cor 14:33 ) your intentions might mean well, however 2nd Tim 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, RIGHTLY DIVIDING the word of truth. Pauls revelation was given to him by Christ himself, we are told Today we are under grace not the law. Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
  • James brooks - in Reply on Ephesians 3
    This is for chris:I didn,t comment on tithing being anywhere in Ephesians.That,s number one.number two what I said is scripture.You don,t have to add anything else to it.GOD Bless you and keep the faith.Faith is from GOD.And like I said;by faith of Abraham,Law given through Moses and by grace we have been saved through faith.The promise was given to Abraham before the Law was given through Moses .GOD would never go back on His promise to the Father of many nations through His SEED, JESUS CHRIST.SEED not seeds.By the Law no one will be saved:Scripture alone;Christ alone;Grace alone;Faith alone;Glory of GOD alone.GOD Bess.
  • Chris - in Reply on Ephesians 3
    James: No.1. I didn't comment on Ephesians 3 either. You might have mistakenly assumed that from the strange, usually incorrect, subject that follows our names around. Maybe, the post had its roots in Ephesians at the beginning.

    And No.2. I couldn't grasp your point & relevance to Tithing. I did say that Tithing was an OT requirement not found in the NT. However, since it was given & sanctioned by the LORD, it must be a worthy model/rule of thumb for us to follow, IF WE DESIRE TO. The Lord be with your spirit, too.
  • Travis - in Reply on Ephesians 3

    Tithing was more strict under Jewish ceremonial law but it started before the law with Abram and Melchizedek. Tithing is very much for today, Chris is right. However, its dependent on our trust in God. Besides the promise of Malachi 3:10, we read in gospels how even though Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for leaving out judgment and mercy, he commended them for the tithe. But that is a secondary issue and not to take precedent above the former. Besides in Hebrews 7:8 the Bible says "And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth"

    In other words Jesus still receives our tithes in Heaven as a pattern of how it worked under the law. Giving of our tithe or our firstfruits of our increase shows God our faith in Him that he will provide for us, plus giving of our tithes also shows that we are faithful in the "least of things", bible says money is the least of things and that if we can trust Him in that arena he can entrust us more
  • Rod - in Reply on Ephesians 3
    Hi Travis: Thanks for responding, yes Abraham tithed to Melchizedek, which was before the Law, and he did it out of his free will being there was no law to say otherwise, but when the law came it was a command for the Jews to bring in there tithes unto the Lord, never was it required for the Gentiles to bring tithes unto the Lord, so why do you say it is for us today? Also where was money instituted as a tithe? it was of there crops, fruit and herds, as I read plainly in scripture, never did I read money under the old Testament Law. Question who changed it to money? 2nd Question - (you say tithing is for us today) my question is, which Gospel are you following? I look foward to your response.
  • James brooks - in Reply on Ephesians 3
    Hey Travis;peace be unto you.Again about tithing;Preachers should never read anything into the Bible,but read from the Bible.What the Bible says not what they want it to say.Tithing was for the Jews not for us believers in Christ.You see GOD divides the whole human race into three distinct groups--the Jews,the Gentiles and the Church of GOD.WE are the church,both Jew and Gentile,who by faith have received the LORD JESUS CHRIST and been born from above.The Jews;not us are the only ones who were ever commanded to pay tithes.As far as Malachi 3:10 goes I suggest you read John Gill,s commentary on that passage,you will get clarification.Now quickly;When GOD said if I will not open you the windows of Heaven and pour you out a blessing,that there shall not be room enough to receive it.He was talking about opening up the Heavens and send rain for the crops.The preacher using the curse threat;GOD don,t curse what He has already blessed.Ephesians !:3 says that we are blessed with all spiritual bles
  • Chris - in Reply on Ephesians 3
    James, just to clarify the reference I made to Malachi 3:10: the pouring out of blessing by the LORD may well have been a deluge of rain for the crops (but this is not the point in that Scripture). The point is that because the people were encouraged to bring their tithes (probably crops, animals, etc.) into God's storehouse, and if they did so, He would reciprocate with blessings. Likewise, when we give cheerfully to the Lord's Work (whether by way of tithe or as we feel led to give), or even over & above what we can afford to, we know that the Lord will still meet our needs (in whatever way He chooses). It really boils down to the measure of faith we have in the Lord for doing what seems impossible to man. I just put this in as it directly applies to my comment as it does to Travis'.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Ephesians 3
    James, very well said.

    N.T. believers are not commanded to tithe. Many today are being taught that they must tithe and give 10 percent of their income to the church. I know of at least one group that has an annual sit down audit of their members, and they have to show proof that they gave what their church told them to give. From my understanding on what was commanded of the Jews, it didn't mean just money, it was 10 percent of everything they owned. I don't know of anyone today who does that. I am not against tithing if people wish to tithe. But I think that is between them and the Lord. A person should only give if the Lord puts it on their heart to give, not out of obligation.
  • Rod - in Reply on Ephesians 3
    Amen Well said James Brooks!
  • Debra Miller on Ephesians 3
    What is the Church Jesus built called according to the Bible
  • Rod - in Reply on Ephesians 3
    Hi Debra: You had asked, What is the Church Jesus built called according to the Bible? The Answer- The Body of Christ. Read Chapt 3 again and vs 6. Most Christians have not been taught how too rightly divide the word of truth, Tim 2:15 I know i was one of them for 20 years i read the bible over and over again and found to many contrdictions and beliefs in my so called church, so decide to leave and search it out for myself and found a great discovery of the scripture of 2nd Tim 2:15. The question is where did God place his division? It all starts with Acts Chapter 9 Sauls Salvation and his Gospel of Grace. Who we know today as the Apsotle Paul. His letters are written for us today and his letters expalin what God is doing today, we are not in the old testament or in the gospels that is all for the Jews and his promise of the kingdom and we Gentiles were never part of the Jewish Covenant that God made to them, it was through there fall salvation is come unto us. Romans 11:11
  • Alice moore - in Reply on Ephesians 3
    The body of Christ is the church, many who confess Christ think that the church is the place where they go a worship. The church is in the person heart, for the believer are the bodies of Christ. That is why it is important that we study the word of God each day and ask the Lord for understanding of His word.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Ephesians 3
    The church was not in the old testament you say?

    Acts Chapter 7: 36 He brought them out, after that he had shewed wonders and signs in the land of EGYPT, and in the RED SEA, and in the wilderness forty years.

    37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.

    38 This is he, that was in the CHURCH church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount (SINAI) Sina, and [with] our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

    39 To whom our fathers would not obey, but thrust [him] from them, and in their hearts turned back again into Egypt,

    (this shows the church crossed the red sea with Moses in the wilderness)

    Galatians 3:29 "And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."
  • DEBRA MILLER - in Reply on Ephesians 3
    Reason for my question is I have had conversations with the Church of Christ members who two of them are pastors and they say it's in the Bible Jesus's Church is calledThe Church of Christ. They are the true Church all others are blasphemious and unless you go to their Church you will not make it into Heaven. I have read that this Church was actually built in the 1800's by Thomas and Alexander Campbell. I was just needing clarification I'm under the correct impression that this statement they claim is simply not true. I believe that Jesus is the church not a building nor any demonation. They also say they are not a demonation. The way they talk and respond to anyone who disagrees with them is not very Christian like at all. Any other information you can share with me on this subject would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
  • Chris - in Reply on Ephesians 3
    Debra, there are references to Church of Christ (Romans 16:16, Ephesians 3:21), but as a matter of fact, there are far more references to the 'Church of God' in the NT. I have seen in my travels: Grace Church, Church of Hope, Abba Church, Eternity Church, Heart of the City Church, plus many more; then there is Church of Jesus Christ (of the Latter Day Saints). Which is the true Church? Certainly not the 'latter'. Any church that claims to be the true Church of Christ or of God, will most likely have some cultish element within & we need to be aware. I've been to a Church of Christ & found them to be well founded on God's Word, so your meeting with a couple of them, appears to show a Church out of the mainstream C of C. Jesus Christ's Church is His Body; He is the Head (the Cornerstone) Ephesians 2:19-22, 1 Peter 2:4-10, etc. We are His Body (Ephesians 4:15,16; Romans 12:4,5) & the Body's existence depends on the Living Christ & His Living Word. So please don't be troubled or deceived by their beliefs.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Ephesians 3
    Debra Miller - your concerns are well founded. Per those pastors of the C of C then I suppose all the people who died before they were created in the 1800's were never saved. You will also find the Seventh Day Adventists and the Jehovah's Witnesses had roots in the Millerite movement. Individuals inside these groups may be very faithful to Christ, but my experience with any large organization is not positive. Personally I believe small home churches are the future of the true church of the Lord.

    Jesus said: Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
  • Adam - in Reply on Ephesians 3
    Hi Debra, I have decades of experience with the Church of Christ and while I have found many loving and well meaning people, I generally disagree with the positions taken and how they conduct their church. Specifically I feel it is wrong to cast judgment on others Matthew 7:5 even within other Christians in the C of C denomination, and I feel 'works' is overemphasized as if some believe they can earn their way to heaven, and I felt that having relationship with God and Jesus was underemphasized, as well as the holy spirit underemphasized, and saying playing an instrument is a sin even though the Bible said David played a harp, etc. As if it's fine to play for secular music but not to worship God? For anyone who says 'unless you are baptized and attend regularly our specific church you will go to hell' I feel is unbiblical and God will judge them just like everyone else. Some call them a cult, and while some may be, I would not go that far for most. Not everyone who attends that denomination will necessarily believe all those things but many do in my experience. 1 Cor 10.
  • Chris - in Reply on Ephesians 3
    My other comments: This is a Gk. word which commonly means, 'any gathering or assembly of people', but biblically, 'a company of believers gathered for worship/who have put their trust in Jesus, including those assemblies that gather throughout the world'. Jesus first spoke to disciple Peter (Matthew 16:18) when He said: "That thou are Peter (Stone, Petros) & upon this Rock (Petra) I will build My Church (Ekklesia) & the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it". Here, Jesus had earlier asked Peter, "Whom do you say I am". He replied, "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the Living God". So Jesus makes a play on words: Stone: Petros & Rock: Petra; saying then, "Your name means a Stone but upon this other Stone (Rock), i.e. the declaration you have just made to Jesus' Divinity, is on what My Church will be built. RCs fuse the two together believing that Christ's Church was built upon Peter & so the papal line.

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