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  • Wohoooandplay on Jude 1 - 12 years ago
    I don't know about quiting calling the devil a liar but rather quit disputing with the devil in terms of the sinful worldly nature of the human condition. In other words don't try to understand and dispute the devil through reason in pursuit of some ulterior motive, as oppossed to godly reason and godly motivation. (vs 4 and 10). How do you do that? Keep steadfast with the way of christ. How do you do that? verse 19 and 20 and 21 describe how you must not remain "sensual" or rather distant from yourself (aka selfless) and that you must pray *in* not *to* the holy ghost. What does that mean? well for me that means detaching yourself and allowing god to manifest from within so you embody christ (sort of like what happens when you die and if you "accept" christ in you're life he magically steps in front of you're tainted being full of sins.) Others might interpret this in light of praying *to* christ and *accepting* christ meaning you think of him often and actively keep him close by. However there clarifying this closeness as being close with the bible rather than from *within*. Do you see my point? He's discussing the potential faults that naturally come with the nature of the bible and it's flexible interpretive quality. He's saying mere scripture isn't were all the authority is coming from you have to let the scripture of the bible or christ from within in order to truly dispute the devil from a godly position. check out vs 24. This is a big question. How do you communicate with god and how do you act through god? What is motivating you? Is being simply conversant with the scripture enough? What does it mean to be conversant with the scripture keeping in mind it's flexible interpretive nature? If those who wrote the scripture are said to embody the holy ghost then how are mere sinners supposed to interpret such transcended speech? Where does the authority lie? I propose through a transcended lens, one that has at least glimpsed and experienced the holy ghost not merely been conversant with scripture through the lens of the sinful "sensual" mind. "prayer in the holy ghost".



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