Bible Discussion Thread

You evidently got me mixed up with someone who is ignorant of the word of GOD. But here again, this time you say, the only way to be in Christ you have to be born again through water and spirit, when that 's not what in John say 's at all, He said Except a man be born OF WATER and of the Spirit, That is a huge difference literally, the scripture can ONLY be spiritually discerned, you can 't change words or rearrange them to suit your own agenda. The total submersion in water, Baptism, is definitely part of a new converts open show of his faith in GOD 's word, his Obedience, and his willingness to show that he puts the old man to an open death in the submersion of a watery grave, and his rise up out of the grave to show a resurrected new man in Christ. The LORD 's statement to Nicodemus, was a confusing statement not only to him but to countless people leading up to even today, But what the Messiah was doing when he made that comment was showing his divine intelligence to Nicodemus, and to us today. There was something in that statement that only a GOD would know? But we are, definitely not born of the water, in the water Baptism. AMEN!