Bible Discussion Thread

For a very long time I have pondered John 15 13! Read in the full context of John 15, the suicide death of my nephew and even the recent suicide of Robin Williams I find myself questioning whether "laying down 's one life " means voluntary death I have no doubt it can surely mean this but I think there is more! For me that Christ would lay down set apart his life in heaven and come to earth took the greatest love. To think that he who knew no sin would come amongst us for but a moment in time but he stayed some 33 years in all "our " filth. And so when Christ says "greater love hath no man then this " I feel he is very much saying that when we set apart lay down all our plans and ambitions our life to reach down up to a friend this is the greatest love we can show. And to do so for those who hate us is even greater love then this as Paul says. Death is such a final act for us on earth but in heaven death is not known so the greatest demonstration of love must be different. In conclusion I would suggest that when the death of Christ came even by death on the cross he had already layed down HIS life. That He rose again forces us to acknowledge that his death alone was not sufficient because if he had stayed in death then we would most certainly be still lost.