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  • Bcjcta - 11 months ago
    are we in the last days
  • MountHoreb - In Reply - 10 months ago
    You are replying to a comment by "Bcjcta"

    Jesus said Yes! Matthew 24

    Starting from the Destruction of Jerusalem in 70 c.e.

    until he comes. Then there's God's Wrath coming against Satan the Devil (the Dragon, Serpent REV. chapter 12), Wild beast (Authorities, Kings, HORNS chapter 17,18), and False Religion (Babylon the Great, Prostitute Revelation 17:1-6; Revelation 20:1,10)

    Revelation 17 spoken in illustration then the angel explains

    Revelation 18 spoken in illustration how powerful Babylon the great is (False Religion:The Great City)

    Revelation 22 spoken partly in illustration and then true talk at the end

    Rather it's believed or not, the scriptures (The law passed from Heaven Psalm 83:18) has spoken. 2 Peter 1:20,21

    Only time will tell
  • Janathome2 - In Reply - 10 months ago
    You can read all of the warnings of the latter days through the teachings of Jesus, Paul, and most of all of his writings, John the beloved. We are most definately in the last, or latter, days, because of the sin abounding and the love of many waxing cold as God's word teaches. We are so close to the catching away,or rapture,the event can happen at any time or second. The tribulation time is for the Jewish people and you can read about this in Matthew 24. God bless you, Sister Jan.
  • David0921 - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Bcjta,

    I believe God uses the term "last days" in a couple of different ways in the Bible. "Last days" can mean the whole New Testament period or it can mean just the period of the Great Tribulation. This is dependent on the context of the passage. I am personally convinced that we are in the period of the Great Tribulation.

    The end of the Great Tribulation will be signaled by the return of Christ to resurrect and rapture all true believers, and execute his final judgment upon Satan and all of those that have not become saved which will include the destruction of this sin-cursed earth, and the creation of new heavens and new earth where all true believers, having received their resurrected spiritual bodies, will live and reign with Christ throughout eternity.

    Read Matt 24, Mark 13 and 1 Thessalonians 4.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Hi David0921,

    My understanding is the rapture is not a separate event before the second coming of Jesus and my understanding of the white throne judgment is not for just the lost. If I can ask, not to debate but for understanding. If we say at Jesus's second coming, all are resurrected and the living is transformed/raptured and the final judgment happens then, how do we understand the two resurrections in Revelation 19:11-22 and Revelation 20 and the binding of Satan for 1000 years?

    Thank You and God bless.

    RLW
  • David0921 - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Hello Ronald,

    Those are good questions.

    One of the principles for interpreting the Bible is laid down in Mark 4:33-34.

    And with many such parables spake he the word unto them, as they were able to hear it. But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.

    The book of Revelation is replete with parabolic language that must be understood spiritually and not absolutely literally. And I understand that is not a very comfortable statement to accept for those that want to look at every verse in the Bible very literally. But it is what the Bible declares.

    Unfortunately that makes the Bible very difficult to understand in many instances. And much of Revelation falls into that category.

    The "first resurrection" spoken of in Rev 20 is, I believe, what happens when our spiritually dead soul becomes Born Again, i.e. raised to life, and God gives that person a brand new "resurrected soul". That person then is not subject to the "second death" i.e. the wrath of God which will be experienced if we have not become saved.

    The Resurrection of our bodies occurs at the Last Day, simultaneous with the Rapture when believers will receive their Resurrected Spiritual bodies.

    The 1000 years in Rev 20, I believe, is referring to the binding of Satan at the time of the Cross until the beginning of the Great Tribulation when Satan is loosed. ( Matt 24 and Mark 13).

    This is a very incomplete answer to your questions, I know.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Hey David0921,

    Thank you for answering, I know Jesus when He was here the first time He spoke in parables for a reason, that generation of the Priests, Pharisees, Scribes, and Sadducees was so corrupt and sinful it was not for them to understand He was the promised Messiah. I see your understanding although my understanding is different. If Revelation is parabolical who is not supposed to not understand it?

    There are many understandings of the end times, and some are deceiving not that yours is. What we must do is regardless of what comes we are ready, strong in our faith, and if we are living, we are ready to face death if that is what we must face.

    There is a verse I find with the guidance of the Holy Spirit in my understanding of scripture is Matt. 13:52 Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.

    Thank you again,

    God bless,

    RLW



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