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  • Errol Thompson on Psalms 16
    I was challenged that Jesus was created, as far as I know he was God in the flesh. Could you shed some clarity on this matter for me please.
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 16
    Hello Errol. I'm unsure who challenged you about the manner of Jesus' Coming to Earth & you are correct Jesus came from within God's Person ( John 1:1-14, the Word of God made flesh) & He had all of God's fullness within His Being ( Colossians 2:9: "For in him (Jesus) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily (in a human body)").

    I know that those who call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses have their erroneous understanding of Colossians 1:15, "Who (i.e. Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature". The Greek word for 'firstborn' is 'prototokos' and when written of Jesus, it applies to His preeminence & highest rank of all creation, though He Himself was never created, because He was "begotten of the Father" ( John 1:14). Whereas the JW reads Colossians 1:15 as, "the first created of every creature"; removing the 'prototokos' & replacing it with 'protokitses'. This error then substantiates their belief that Jesus was merely a created Being from God, thereby nullifying His Divinity.

    And we see this word, 'firstborn' appearing elsewhere in the New Testament, when referring to Jesus:

    Romans 8:29: "firstborn among many brethren", referring to Jesus' preeminence as the 'elder Brother' of His many brethren, the Church. And it also speaks of Jesus' as being wholly Divine yet Him merging with humanity, thus the incarnate God becoming the 'first' in line of this new creation: i.e. we who are now His brothers & sisters have been given His Spirit to indwell us, making us a new creation in Christ Jesus (God's Spirit now residing in man)": 2 Corinthians 5:17.

    Colossians 1:18: "firstborn from the dead". This means that Jesus was the first to rise from the dead with a resurrection Body & it will be when our bodies will be resurrected as His was - but He was our Forerunner in the resurrection. Though Lazarus & the many saints arose from the grave, they weren't given their new glorified bodies.

    I hope this little extra study helps you Errol.

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