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  • Watchman on the wall on Luke 16:23 - 1 year ago
    No the Bible does not teach anywhere that belief in christ is all that is required for salvation.

    It repeatedly from beginning to end continues to teach faith together with obedience to God's ten commandments are a prerequisite to salvation. Everyone in the Bible is judged according to their works. Not according to their faith. Romans 3:31



    "Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law." 1 John 2:4



    "He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him."

    King James

    Luke 18:18



    "And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" Luke 18:19



    "And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God."

    Luke 18:20



    "Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother."

    King James



    Matthew

    5





    Matthew 5:17



    "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

    King James

    John

    15





    John 15:10



    "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love." John 14:15



    "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    King James

    Luke

    13





    Luke 13:24



    "Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able."

    King James

    Romans 2:6



    "Who will render to every man according to his deeds:"

    King JamesRevelation 22:12



    "And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be."

    King James

    There is a ton of more verses that could be attached that continue to back up truth.

    The main thing is you must read the Bible for yourself because ultimately you are responsible for your own salvation. Trusting what I say or what this person says is not the way to work out your own salvation.
  • U4YAH - In Reply - 1 year ago
    You said this is the explanation of THE COMMANDMENT Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: "Using God name in vain is specifically talking about people who come in his name miss representing him with false doctrines such as what is the perceived actual name of God.."

    Please show me the scriptures supporting what you wrote that define the second commandment as you presented it to me. I know of none as such.

    I believe that Jah says what he means and Jah means what he says.

    He said not to make his name useless.(in vain)

    If we no longer use his name by replacing it with other names and his titles of authority; then we have made his name Useless by not ever using it.

    My question is: why deny the Hebrew name of the Messiah?

    Even Jahshua blessed him that didn't deny his name in Revelations letter in the angel of the church of Philadelphia!

    Everyone's name defines them, who they are, & which family. Names are very important.

    Why would he who will sit on the throne of David, rule over all of Israel, and being born in a nation speaking Hebrew/Aramaic, language, the anointed one of Israel, who's mother is an Israelite, name her child with a foreign Heathen name of Greek and Roman origin that doesn't praise the God of Israel as the name Jah-shua does?

    Yes Yah also are given the right to choose to do as you please by Jah.
  • U4YAH - In Reply - 1 year ago
    When I was much, much, younger; just hearing the words of Psalm 23 would make me feel uneasiness inside of me.

    This was most likely because I heard those words spoken at a funeral and associated this Psalm with death, especially when I heard the words: "Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death."

    Later in my life, I began reading through the Bible and sought to learn more and more about what my God was telling me to do, seeking righteousness for salvation to be with him forever in Heaven.

    But my understanding of his words which were written in the Bible was very difficult back then and even now there are mysteries written that are still to high for me to comprehend.

    Today I understand so much more about Psalm 23 because I cried out to my God, Jah for Wisdom and Understanding to teach me. (Call Wisdom your sister and Understanding your kinswoman.)

    Psalm 23 is not about death, it is all about life and the loving kindness of my God. How He cares, protects, provides, blesses, prospers and allows his children, who are basically as sheep to be in his family (His House) forever.

    HalleluJah (Praise Jah), for his mercy endureth forever.
  • U4YAH - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Wonderfully well said and accurately said.

    After reading your comment my spirit is driven to ponder some other verses by Jahshua.... "all of The law is Love and forgiveness."

    This all makes me realize that the commandments are basically redundant.

    Example: If we love someone, even our enemies; then we would not kill them, we would not kill them, we would not steal from them, we would not commit adultery against them and Jah (Jah considers serving other gods as adultery against him), we wouldn't cheat, defraud, lie, or hurt anyone in any way if we loved them.

    Love, mercy and forgiveness. Now after considering these things... I understand the truth of what Jahshua said when he gave two new commandments: to love Jah with all of our being and to love our neighbor as ourselves.... UPON THIS HINGES ALL OF THE LAW.

    Obedience to love will save us. Jah is Love. If someone does what is opposite (anti) of what is the will of God (God's will is his Word/Jahshua/Messiah/Christ or AbtiChrist. And that would be sin/transgression.

    SometThinking to ponder... Thinking back your post of the Messiah's instructions to the man inquiring about Salvation; Jahshua listed only six of the Ten Commandments. He left out the Sabbath worship, idol making and coveting our neighbor's things.

    Why did he leave them out? Especially the keeping of the Sabbath!
  • Watchman on the wall - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Ok. No Jesus not jahshua. Or Jah or whatever hebrew or Greek equivalent to Jesus and, God you choose to refer to. In the English language God is God. Jesus is the messiah, and so on and so forth. God knows who you are talking to just be respectful when referring to Him. Don't get caught up on obscure verses trying to make a doctrine of the name of God.

    Secondly Jesus never made any new commandment . When Jesus said "if you love me keep my commandments" he was quoting Exodus 20:6



    "And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments

    This is referring to the ten commandments. All of them

    Secondly the first four commandments are how you love God.

    Just like the last six deal with how you love your NIEGHBOR.

    He did not refer to every commandment he just referred to the ten commandments.

    He was never saying just love your NIEGHBOR and not God.

    Jesus is the one who wrote the ten commandments. It is a transcript of his character. Which is love. If you do not keep all ten of the commandments you do not love because they are a description of how you love.

    1 John 5:3



    "For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous."

    The sabbath is Saturday. It was made holy by Jesus when he created everything. And it is still holy. No where in the entire Bible did he change or do away with the sabbath. Period!!!

    Exodus 20:11



    "For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it."

    It's also found in genesis at the beginning before there was a jew.

    It would be absurd to assume you may break the first four commandments but have to keep the last six. It's a package deal.

    James 2:10



    "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

    So it is the keeping of the entire ten commandments that is love for God and your nieghbor.
  • U4YAH - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I don't understand your logic justifying that God doesn't care what name you call him by, he knows what you mean.

    If that would be true then why did he give a commandment in the ten commandments saying: Thou shalt not take my name in vain?

    The common thought about this is not to mention his name as a cuss word, or not to just say his name in frivolous conversation. Example: oh my God when something surprises us.

    But the words of this commandment are explicit of the intention of it's true meaning.

    I believe that most everyone understands the meaning of: in vain. Of course, everyone knows that this means: useless. Something said or done in vain is useless.

    No one can argue with the truth. The truth is self-evident and undeniable.

    With understanding the commandment is keep his name hallowed and preserved as his true and unique set-apart name forever.

    If he knows what we mean when we call him by another name and respects that, then we can call him by any name at all because he knows what we mean. Go ahead and call him Richard, Alfonso, Igor; you believe he knows what you mean.

    If it is not important then why did Jahshua commend the Angel of the Church of Philadelphia for not denying his name and call him by another name?(Jahshua which is a praise unto Jahshua's God, Jah)

    You said that we must obey all the Ten commandments then why would you not keep this one?

    I will show you that David declares God's name to be Jah in Psalm 68:4 Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name JAH, and rejoice before him.

    This is written in the word of God/Jah. If you don't believe this then you are denying the written word of God/Jah.

    Unlike others, I use scriptural fact and not the Greek religion of logic and philosophy for the presentation of truth. Biblical facts. We don't change the name of God/Jah nor the name of the Messiah, Jahshua to suit sound good in our own language. We love and honor his true name which is perfect.
  • Watchman on the wall - In Reply - 1 year ago
    You may do what you want. That is a God given right. But if everyone on here is disrespectful to the name of God then why are you here?? Don't make doctrines where there are none.

    Using God name in vain is specifically talking about people who come in his name miss representing him with false doctrines such as what is the perceived actual name of God..

    God has more names than you will ever comprehend. But for those who speak English it IS GOD THE FATHER, JESUS CHRIST, HIS SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.

    AND THESE THREE ARE ONE. NOT NUMERICALLY ETHER



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