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  • Dgjot on Ezekiel 13
    I know Ezekiel 13 is talking about how much God hates false prophets. But it also shows the insanity of punishing the innocent and coddling the wicked.

    19 "And will ye pollute me among my people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live, by your lying to my people that hear your lies?"

    Specifically where it says- " slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live....."

    My first thought was about our court system that coddles rapists and murderers and there's no justice for the victims of these crimes, and panders to irresponsible women who use abortions as birth control.

    Who wrote Ecclesiastes??? Solomon??? Even he saw the stupidity of letting the wicked go free.

    Ecclesiastes 8:11

    "Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil."

    1 Timothy 1:

    8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;

    9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

    10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

    I'm in favor of the death penalty for the worst offenders: murderers and rapists (of men, women, boys, girls, babies and animals. Fornication outside of marriage is a horrible sin.)

    What do you think?
  • Chris - in Reply on Ezekiel 13
    Hi Dgjot. I understand what you're saying & agree with it. I try not to dwell too much on the failure of our governmental systems - I weary myself unnecessarily by doing so. We live in a fallen world; not only as sin has gripped each person, condemning to hell, but sin's manifestations are so diverse & know no boundaries. You gave examples of the worst of offenders against innocent people - how are these different from justices who mete out flimsy sentences, or even murderers who get released from prison, only to commit another heinous crime. I ask, 'is there any difference between these criminals: the one committing the crime & the other careless about properly dealing with it?' Will not the same LORD judge each one according to their wicked deeds? I know you are overcome by this issue, as I remember you writing on this before, & really, there's not much one can do except to leave it all in His Hands, to the One Who will judge righteously - none shall escape & none will have any excuse before Him.

    In the meanwhile, mental, emotional & physical suffering will continue as man exercises his sinful urges on others - where possible victims must be helped, loved & restored; I think the LORD would expect this of us. All other things beyond our control or influence, the LORD will take care of in his time.
  • Dgjot - in Reply on Ezekiel 13
    Thank You Chris.

    Long ago I read a book called The Road Less Traveled. I remember nothing about that book except one sentence:

    "People want their grief acknowledged and their feelings validated".

    When someone's grief is acknowledged and their feelings are validated they can have some peace, so thank you.

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