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  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    The last generation: Continued.

    There are others who have come up with the theory I am proposing as to Israel becoming more prosperous in particular. One thing is for sure; for the Ezekiel 38 war to commence; Israel is to be a land of "unwalled villages" and feel they are "dwelling securely in their land". For THAT to occur; there needs to be some sort of elimination of the surrounding threat. We at least need to reach a time when a Covenent is confirmed ( Dan. 9:27) which seems likely to be the current Abraham accords once there are finally many nations involved or something similar that Antichrist confirms some day soon. It would seem this war could be the 2nd seal event or thereabouts; but it certainly could be earlier.

    The timing of the Ezekiel 38 war also is questionable. Again; the land dwelling securely could be the first half of the Tribulation.

    The problem is the seven year cleanup effort; it seems this is earlier and or part of a wider campaign before Armageddon. It has been argued the seven years means it "fits into" the seven year Tribulation. Clearly though that WON'T happen then as at the Midpoint the Beast rises up; kills the two prophets then we have the escape run to the mountains as stated in ( Matt. 24:16).

    This will be no time to employ people to go around picking up bones; clearly. The other possibility is that war ALSO is BEFORE the Tribulation begins. The most likely answer from what i can understand is that it roughly corresponds with Armageddon but it is a separate campaign. These nations are NOT mentioned in Armageddon and may not have the Mark of the Beast. Further bolstering that theory is that one sixth are said to survive; those who fight God and have the mark are doomed for destruction.

    These could be in my opinion some of the kings mentioned in Isaiah 49:23 who return the captives.

    At any event; we are certainly close with the Dubai one world religion center being opened sometime this year; and overall apostasy.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Richard, good thoughts, just a few questions to study for the truth.

    I agree, "Somethin' ain't right here with the logic." Many have tried to calculate how close we are and only God the Father knows. My understanding of a generation is the average life from birth to death. The 120 years in Genesis was the warning God gave, they had 120 years to repent until the flood came and wiped them all out except the 8.

    I assume the generation you are referencing is the one in Matt. 24 Mark 13 Luke 21. My understanding is they have a dual meaning some things are for the future and many things were for then. Jesus said that generation vipers, evil, adulterous, wicked, sinful, faithless, perverse, and "That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation" Matt.23:33-39.

    "This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled" is where the division of understanding comes. What did Jesus mean when He said till all be fulfilled? Was it all prophesied up to the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple we see in Daniel 9? Was it all until He returns? Was it part of both? We must remember at the time Jesus told them this they did not even know He was going to be crucified, Mark 16:14 Luke 9:44-45 Luke 18:31-34 Luke 24:6-8 Luke 24:44-45.



    Jesus said when you see the abomination of desolation spoken by Daniel, flee Judea. History tells us all the believers in Jesus got that warning and fled to Pella a region across the Jordan river and were saved. Many today place this with saying the antichrist is the he in Dan.9:27, 7-year tribulation, and the rapture of the Church.

    Has the 70-week prophecy been fulfilled? How would that change the rapture theory as taught? If we are looking to be taken out before the tribulation and that does not happen, would that be the hour of temptation and the falling away? The seven-year cleanup, could they be the first seven years of the millennium?

    God bless,

    RLW



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