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  • Gilbert R Martinez on Ephesians 6 - 1 year ago
    Where can I find mention of Saints and what we turn to them for, if anything? Thank you
  • Curious-T - In Reply on Ephesians 6 - 1 year ago
    To answer your question, we should let the Bible tell us or define "Who" the "Saints" are. For the Bible says to lean NOT unto thine OWN understanding.

    "Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice." Psalms 50:5 KJV



    - according to scripture, The Israelites of the Bible are the only nation to make a covenant with God by sacrifice - "And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the COVENANT, which the LORD hath made with you concerning all these words." Exodus 24:8 KJV. Refer to Exodus 24:7 as well as they made a blood in, blood out agreement by the blood of an animal - sacrificed peace offerings of oxen unto the LORD.

    "He also exalteth the horn of his people, the praise of all his saints; even of the children of Israel, a people near unto him. Praise ye the LORD." Psalms 148:14 KJV - The word "even" throughout the Bible means "indeed". Knowing this, this is another verse that tells us the "Saints" of the Bible are the Israelites, which is all twelve tribes. The Bible defines itself for the most part if not all parts. Hope this helps, as the scriptures are the truth.
  • Giannis - In Reply on Ephesians 6 - 1 year ago
    Hello Curious.

    You are right saying that the saints are those that have made a covenant with God by sacrifice. Haven't we, christians, made a covenant with God by the sacrifice not of a lamp or a bull but with the sacrifice of God's Lamp, the Son of the God, Jesus Christ? If those who were not sanctified by the Spirit were called saints, how much more appropriate is for us who are baptised in the Spirit to be called so?

    Please read how apostle Paul calls the believers in every church he addesses.

    i.e. 1 Corinthians 1:2 "Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be SAINTS, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:"

    Ephesians 1:1 "Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the SAINTS which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus"

    Colossians 1:2 "To the SAINTS and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ."

    And he calls saints all the LIVING BELIEVERS in all churches he has written letters to. So the saints are God's people from all over the nations through all the ages, dead and alive. GBU
  • Jacqui - In Reply on Ephesians 6 - 1 year ago
    Hello . I don't believe that we are turn to anyone for help in prayer , other than God , through the mediatorship of His Son Jesus Christ , who is our Sinless High Priest in Heaven . You will not find anyone doing that or advocating that in the Bible . Only God can help us , the saints are / were just humans like we are . Only God is all powerful and we should never be afraid to ask for His help . All things are possible with Him .
  • Giannis - In Reply on Ephesians 6 - 1 year ago
    That is not quite right dear Jacqui.

    Romans 15:30-31

    "Now I beseech you, brethren, for the Lord Jesus Christ's sake, and for the love of the Spirit, that ye strive together with me in your prayers to God for me;

    That I may be delivered from them that do not believe in Judaea; and that my service which I have for Jerusalem may be accepted of the saints;"

    Ephesians 6:19-20

    "Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

    And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,

    For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak."

    Colossians 4:2-3

    "Continue in prayer, and watch in the same with thanksgiving;

    Withal praying also for us, that God would open unto us a door of utterance, to speak the mystery of Christ, for which I am also in bonds"

    1 Thessalonians 5:25

    "Brethren, pray for us (Paul says)."

    Acts 12:5

    "Peter therefore was kept in prison: but prayer was made without ceasing of the church unto God for him."

    And many many more. If Perer and Paul needed prayers from others how necessary it is for us to pray for each other?

    James 5:16

    "Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."

    GBU
  • Jacqui - In Reply on Ephesians 6 - 1 year ago
    If you go back to the original question that I was answering , you will see that it was about wether we should pray to the saints to ask them for their help . It was not about us , alive Christians praying for each other .
  • Giannis - In Reply on Ephesians 6 - 1 year ago
    Yes you are right dear Jacqui, I didn't pay too much attention to the initial post so I answered the wrong answer.
  • Jacqui - In Reply on Ephesians 6 - 1 year ago
    I guessed that was the case , no problem .



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