If you read Revelation you will see that john received two separate revelations. One which was specifically dealing with the seven churches and what would be their fate in the near future.
The second revelation begins in Rev 4:1 and is not specific to the seven churches who are addressed in chapters 2and 3.
We cannot build sound doctrine on assumptions so we must not add to what has been said in revelation bearing in mind the warnings for those who add or take away from what has been written in Revealtion.
If you read Rev 6:12 onwards you will see events that correlate with Christ's description of his second coming as recorded in mat 24. which Christ says will happen after the great tribulation. And if you read on down to Rev 6:17 you will see the where the day of wrath is mentioned. So the day of wrath happens when Christ returns after the great tribulation.
If you read all my comments below it might help you understand my thoughts on this very important subject.
The great tribulation is not the day of wrath.
You will notice that the angels recued lot on the very same day that God poured out his wrath on the unbelievers. There was no delay. And so it will be when Christ returns after the great tribulation. He will send his angels at the sound of the trumpet to gather his elect before pouring out his wrath on the unbelievers.
I will make just this comment and stop because I don't really have time to write lenthy posts during the week.
So, the tribulation of people who will decide to not accept the mark of the beast will be persecution and slaughtering (but not only). This is right. But for the rest of the world it will be those cataclysmic events described in Rev. How is it possible people getting on with their everyday life like buying, selling, marrying, building etc when the whole world is falling apart? Earthquakes that distruct the 1/3 of the cities of the world, 1/3 of waters becoming blood, world war (nuclear I suppose), 1/3 of people and animals die, stars falling on earth, sun and moon getting dark, and people get on with their lives? How is that possible? Those events will not occur after Jesus comes back but before. And how is it possible that the day of the Lord comes as a thief at night when it is known that when those things start occuring there will be only 7 (or so) years left till the end? How is it possible Jesus warning us (the believers) not to be busy with cares of this world when believers will be slaughtered? Actually they will not be able to do anything really since they will not have the mark on them. It is obvious I think that those two events, the rapture and the 2nd coming of Jesus will occur in different dates because the events accompanying them are completely different. But I think you are implying that those events of the tribulation will follow Jesus 2nd coming. But this is wrong. Rev 10:7 "But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets." So everything (the distruction) that happens before that 7nth angel sounds is before Jesus' 2nd coming. But the mark of the beast is placed on people after that 7nth angel. So what should be the conclusion?
Anyway thanks for the conversation, I may come back to this some time later on.
Hello Giannis, you raise many good points here. My only comment is that if a star were to fall to earth it would destroy the whole earth. Even a big asteroid (which is not a combustion chamber like a star) would most like shatter the earth or knock it off its axis or out of its rotational field.
There are two tribulation's in the end times, The tribulation of Satan, and The Tribulation of Christ, which is The Day of The Lord, The Day of Wrath, The Day of Vengeance Luke 21:22 For the great day of His wrath is come; and who is
able to stand?" Revelation 6:17
The word STAND in the verse is asked as a question for a reason, asking Who will make the First Resurrection as it does in Psalms 1:5 where the ungodly will not.
Anthony, I agree that the great tribulation is not the wrath of God spoken out. I think also, that His wrath comes upon the earth when he returns to bring judgment upon the earth and mankind. Notice the cataclysmic events that are mentioned. The earth could not endure in a life-sustaining way if the heavenly objects fall and melt, if mountains are laid flat and the sky roll back like a scroll, etc.
The great tribulation will be terrible, indeed, brought on by the wickedness of man, the utter evil intentions of Satan, and what God allows to happen during that time.
I don't think that Christians will be evacuated with a pre-trib rapture with the reasoning being that God would not let His church go through such terrible events. I do not hold to this reasoning because God has allowed the church to go through great tribulations, persecutions, slaughters even in the first few centuries after Jesus ascended to sit at the right hand of God. And because I agree with you that the church will be caught up with Jesus when he comes the 2nd time after the tribulation, as Matthew 24 seems to say. Thank you for your explanation.
Let me clear up something dear brother. When we say God's wrath we don't always specifically mean the Day of Judgement, or the day of punishment of people that accepted the mark of the beast like during the fight of Armagedon or after.
The great tribulation during the time of antichrist will be caused by God's wrath (call it anger, judgement or anything else if you like) to the sinful world. Famine, physical catastrophies like the eartquakes, like the water becoming blood, like that star that fell off the sky, like the sun and moon stopped giving their light etc are caused by angels pouring God's anger on earth to the sinful people. The horses, the wars, the seals opened by angels, the trumpets, the woes, the hail, the fire mixed with blood, the third of all living creatures including people dying etc etc are all done by God through His angels. Rev 7:2 "And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,", Rev 9:15 "And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men."
As I said before I cannot think that God will be doing all that while His church is still on earth so we, His children, will suffer famine, wars, catastrophies, death together with the sinful world. All of which (and this is very important) are due to His anger for the sinning world which He will surrender to satan and his man, the antichrist. It doesn't sound logical to me. What for? The saints suffer together with sinners? Die together with sinners? That is not what happened to Noah and Lot. They first left and then God punished the sinners. They didn't suffer, they escaped all that. Protection during the great tribulation is only offered to the Jewish people that are going to believe to Jesus. These are the ones that are sealed in their foreheads, Rev 7:3, Rev 9:4
Much of the punishments in Revelation are noted AFTER the day of wrath is mentioned in Rev 6:17 which is when Christ returns and raptures his saints before pouring out his wrath on the unbelievers. So, it is my belief that the saints will have been raptured before those punishments are poured out on the earth.
The bible does not say that there will be a pretribulation rapture, so neither should we.
Applying this notion to the word of God only causes confusion.
Paul says that we must through much tribulation enter the kingdom of God.
Whatever happens in the world can only happen when God permits it. So we cannot say that he is oblivious to the persecution of his people. He allows it and sanctions it so that his people can be tested
God has often punished his people with war and famine because of their unbelief and rebellion.
But even a righteous man like Job can be sorely tested at God's discretion.
The great tribulation will be a time of great apostasy where there will be false prophets and false Christs who would deceive even the elect if it were possible. Even today there is increasing apostasy in the church so the church will be tested by God during the great tribulation.
Paul says that before Christ returns to gather his saints that there must first be an apostasy and that the man of sin must be revealed sitting in the holy place. 2nd Thessalonians 2, 1-6
There is no 'age of grace' mentioned in the bible. God has always been gracious and long suffering towards his people.
Psalms 145:8
The LORD is gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy.
But he also judges his people and can punish them for their disobedience and their rebellion. When God brings a famine or war the righteous and the unrighteous may suffer together.
So, God's people will suffer persecution and famine during the great tribulation, but Christ will rapture his saints on the "day of his wrath" before He pours out his wrath on the unbelievers.
Yeah, that's where you lost me bro, Christ comes to establish God's Kingdom Here on Earth, no one goes anywhere, we are CHANGED when He returns.
All who are alive and remain (will) go through the tribulation, only difference is those who have the seal of God will not be touched by the Locust army,,, it is commanded by God
Who are these locusts? God's Army
Joel 2:25 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, My great army which I sent among you.
Joel 2:23 Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month.
Revelation 7:2 - And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
Revelation 9:3 - 7 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
9:4 And it was commanded them{locust army} that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; (but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.)
I, too, do not read of a pre-tribulation rapture in the Scripture, nor mention of an "age of grace" as being separate from God's grace being bestowed even from the beginning with Adam and Eve after they sinned. Otherwise, how would have Enoch and Elijah ever been translated, as they were sinners, too.
a. If I understand well you believe in a rapture in the midst of those last 7 years or sometime before the 2nd coming of Jesus on earth?
b. The Revelation is not written in chronological order. God's wrath will not occur only at the end but also during those 7 years. Rev 15:7 "And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven ANGELS seven golden vials FULL OF THE WRATH OF GOD who liveth for ever and ever." It is God's punishment of the sinful world. This is what causes the great tribulation. They are not due to physical causes. If the great tribulation is not due to God's punishment, what is it then? Which are causes of that tribulation and which events are a result of that tribulation? What do you actually mean with great tribulation?
c. The tribulations in one's life that Paul talks about are persecutions due their faith and for their spiritual training. They are a completely different thing from that great tribulation.
d. Lets read carefully the discussion Abraham had with the Lord just before the distruction of Sodom and Gommorah, it shows how God thinks and how God acts in similar cases.
Genesis 18:23-33
"And Abraham drew near, and said, WILT THOU DESTROY THE RIGHTEOUS WITH THE WICKED?
Peradventure there be FIFTY righteous within the city: WILT THOU DESTROY AND NOT SPARE THE PLACE FOR THE FIFTY RIGHTEOUS THAT ARE THEREIN?
THAT BE FAR FROM THEE TO DO AFTER THIS MANNER, TO SLAY THE RIGHTEOUS WITH THE WICKED: AND THAT THE RIGHTEOUS SHOULB BE AS THE WICKED, THAT BE FAR FROM THEE: SHALL NOT THE JUDGE OF ALL THE EARTH DO RIGHT?
And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I WILL SPARE ALL THE PLACE FOR THEIR SAKES.
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And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure TEN shall be found there. And he said, I WILL NOT DESTROY IT FOR TEN'S SAKE."
So there is no way God orders His angels to destroy, that is to "kill" His children together with the wicked world. Noway at all. My opinion.
a. I do not believe in a pre or mid tribulation rapture because Christ makes it clear in Mathew 24 that he will return immediately after the great tribulation.
b. God's day of wrath does not occur during the great tribulation. The great tribulation will be a time of testing for God's people as they are persecuted for the name of Jesus Christ. This will be worse than ever before because the man of sin will have been revealed. The abomination of desolation will be standing in the holy place. Jesus said that there will be huge demonic activity at this time.
The unbelievers will be eating and drinking, marrying, and working so they are not suffering the wrath of God at this time. In fact, they are not prepared for the wrath which is to come.
The bible does not describe the great tribulation as God's wrath.
c. During the great tribulation will experience testing worse than ever before
d. "So there is no way God orders His angels to destroy, that is to "kill" His children together with the wicked world. Noway at all. My opinion. "
Gianna, I agree with you that is why the great tribulation is separate to the day of wrath.
Just like Lot was removed from Sodom by the angels on the day of destruction when God poured out his wrath on that city, so it will be that Christ will send his angels to remove his saints from earth on the day of His wrath, before pouring out his wrath on the unbelievers.
We will be taken up to be with Christ whereupon he will begin to destroy the earth along with those unbelievers who remain on the earth.
This is all made clear in Mathew 24.
Revelation is best understood in the light of the clear teaching of Christ. Peter and Paul also address the end times with great clarity.
PS the bible does not state the duration of the great tribulation. In fact Christ says that nobody knows the day or the hour He will return except the Father.
There is no reason to believe that it lasts seven years based on the scriptures.
Jesus' words in Matthew and in Luke speak of Him returning at the end of the tribulation and then the wrath of God is poured out. Jesus says the tribulation will be cut short or else no one would survive, but it is cut short for the sake of the elect (who are still on the earth). When the wrath of God is poured out the heavens will be shaken causing interstellar disasters in space and the earth will be laid waste. But this happens so that God can re-create a new heaven and a new earth that is free from any corruption.
Peter also talks about this event in his second letter. ( 2nd Peter 3:10-12)
10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness."
When Christ returns, the heavens and the earth will be destroyed after which God will create a new heavens and new earth suited for habitation by Christ and his glorified saints.
If you read Revelation you will see that john received two separate revelations. One which was specifically dealing with the seven churches and what would be their fate in the near future.
The second revelation begins in Rev 4:1 and is not specific to the seven churches who are addressed in chapters 2and 3.
We cannot build sound doctrine on assumptions so we must not add to what has been said in revelation bearing in mind the warnings for those who add or take away from what has been written in Revealtion.
If you read Rev 6:12 onwards you will see events that correlate with Christ's description of his second coming as recorded in mat 24. which Christ says will happen after the great tribulation. And if you read on down to Rev 6:17 you will see the where the day of wrath is mentioned. So the day of wrath happens when Christ returns after the great tribulation.
If you read all my comments below it might help you understand my thoughts on this very important subject.
The great tribulation is not the day of wrath.
You will notice that the angels recued lot on the very same day that God poured out his wrath on the unbelievers. There was no delay. And so it will be when Christ returns after the great tribulation. He will send his angels at the sound of the trumpet to gather his elect before pouring out his wrath on the unbelievers.
I will make just this comment and stop because I don't really have time to write lenthy posts during the week.
So, the tribulation of people who will decide to not accept the mark of the beast will be persecution and slaughtering (but not only). This is right. But for the rest of the world it will be those cataclysmic events described in Rev. How is it possible people getting on with their everyday life like buying, selling, marrying, building etc when the whole world is falling apart? Earthquakes that distruct the 1/3 of the cities of the world, 1/3 of waters becoming blood, world war (nuclear I suppose), 1/3 of people and animals die, stars falling on earth, sun and moon getting dark, and people get on with their lives? How is that possible? Those events will not occur after Jesus comes back but before. And how is it possible that the day of the Lord comes as a thief at night when it is known that when those things start occuring there will be only 7 (or so) years left till the end? How is it possible Jesus warning us (the believers) not to be busy with cares of this world when believers will be slaughtered? Actually they will not be able to do anything really since they will not have the mark on them. It is obvious I think that those two events, the rapture and the 2nd coming of Jesus will occur in different dates because the events accompanying them are completely different. But I think you are implying that those events of the tribulation will follow Jesus 2nd coming. But this is wrong. Rev 10:7 "But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets." So everything (the distruction) that happens before that 7nth angel sounds is before Jesus' 2nd coming. But the mark of the beast is placed on people after that 7nth angel. So what should be the conclusion?
Anyway thanks for the conversation, I may come back to this some time later on.
GBU
able to stand?" Revelation 6:17
The word STAND in the verse is asked as a question for a reason, asking Who will make the First Resurrection as it does in Psalms 1:5 where the ungodly will not.
The great tribulation will be terrible, indeed, brought on by the wickedness of man, the utter evil intentions of Satan, and what God allows to happen during that time.
I don't think that Christians will be evacuated with a pre-trib rapture with the reasoning being that God would not let His church go through such terrible events. I do not hold to this reasoning because God has allowed the church to go through great tribulations, persecutions, slaughters even in the first few centuries after Jesus ascended to sit at the right hand of God. And because I agree with you that the church will be caught up with Jesus when he comes the 2nd time after the tribulation, as Matthew 24 seems to say. Thank you for your explanation.
Let me clear up something dear brother. When we say God's wrath we don't always specifically mean the Day of Judgement, or the day of punishment of people that accepted the mark of the beast like during the fight of Armagedon or after.
The great tribulation during the time of antichrist will be caused by God's wrath (call it anger, judgement or anything else if you like) to the sinful world. Famine, physical catastrophies like the eartquakes, like the water becoming blood, like that star that fell off the sky, like the sun and moon stopped giving their light etc are caused by angels pouring God's anger on earth to the sinful people. The horses, the wars, the seals opened by angels, the trumpets, the woes, the hail, the fire mixed with blood, the third of all living creatures including people dying etc etc are all done by God through His angels. Rev 7:2 "And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,", Rev 9:15 "And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men."
As I said before I cannot think that God will be doing all that while His church is still on earth so we, His children, will suffer famine, wars, catastrophies, death together with the sinful world. All of which (and this is very important) are due to His anger for the sinning world which He will surrender to satan and his man, the antichrist. It doesn't sound logical to me. What for? The saints suffer together with sinners? Die together with sinners? That is not what happened to Noah and Lot. They first left and then God punished the sinners. They didn't suffer, they escaped all that. Protection during the great tribulation is only offered to the Jewish people that are going to believe to Jesus. These are the ones that are sealed in their foreheads, Rev 7:3, Rev 9:4
GBU
Much of the punishments in Revelation are noted AFTER the day of wrath is mentioned in Rev 6:17 which is when Christ returns and raptures his saints before pouring out his wrath on the unbelievers. So, it is my belief that the saints will have been raptured before those punishments are poured out on the earth.
The bible does not say that there will be a pretribulation rapture, so neither should we.
Applying this notion to the word of God only causes confusion.
Paul says that we must through much tribulation enter the kingdom of God.
Whatever happens in the world can only happen when God permits it. So we cannot say that he is oblivious to the persecution of his people. He allows it and sanctions it so that his people can be tested
God has often punished his people with war and famine because of their unbelief and rebellion.
But even a righteous man like Job can be sorely tested at God's discretion.
The great tribulation will be a time of great apostasy where there will be false prophets and false Christs who would deceive even the elect if it were possible. Even today there is increasing apostasy in the church so the church will be tested by God during the great tribulation.
Paul says that before Christ returns to gather his saints that there must first be an apostasy and that the man of sin must be revealed sitting in the holy place. 2nd Thessalonians 2, 1-6
There is no 'age of grace' mentioned in the bible. God has always been gracious and long suffering towards his people.
Psalms 145:8
The LORD is gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy.
But he also judges his people and can punish them for their disobedience and their rebellion. When God brings a famine or war the righteous and the unrighteous may suffer together.
So, God's people will suffer persecution and famine during the great tribulation, but Christ will rapture his saints on the "day of his wrath" before He pours out his wrath on the unbelievers.
All who are alive and remain (will) go through the tribulation, only difference is those who have the seal of God will not be touched by the Locust army,,, it is commanded by God
Who are these locusts? God's Army
Joel 2:25 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, My great army which I sent among you.
Joel 2:23 Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month.
Revelation 7:2 - And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
Revelation 9:3 - 7 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
9:4 And it was commanded them{locust army} that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; (but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.)
Thank you for this good explanation.
I, too, do not read of a pre-tribulation rapture in the Scripture, nor mention of an "age of grace" as being separate from God's grace being bestowed even from the beginning with Adam and Eve after they sinned. Otherwise, how would have Enoch and Elijah ever been translated, as they were sinners, too.
a. If I understand well you believe in a rapture in the midst of those last 7 years or sometime before the 2nd coming of Jesus on earth?
b. The Revelation is not written in chronological order. God's wrath will not occur only at the end but also during those 7 years. Rev 15:7 "And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven ANGELS seven golden vials FULL OF THE WRATH OF GOD who liveth for ever and ever." It is God's punishment of the sinful world. This is what causes the great tribulation. They are not due to physical causes. If the great tribulation is not due to God's punishment, what is it then? Which are causes of that tribulation and which events are a result of that tribulation? What do you actually mean with great tribulation?
c. The tribulations in one's life that Paul talks about are persecutions due their faith and for their spiritual training. They are a completely different thing from that great tribulation.
d. Lets read carefully the discussion Abraham had with the Lord just before the distruction of Sodom and Gommorah, it shows how God thinks and how God acts in similar cases.
Genesis 18:23-33
"And Abraham drew near, and said, WILT THOU DESTROY THE RIGHTEOUS WITH THE WICKED?
Peradventure there be FIFTY righteous within the city: WILT THOU DESTROY AND NOT SPARE THE PLACE FOR THE FIFTY RIGHTEOUS THAT ARE THEREIN?
THAT BE FAR FROM THEE TO DO AFTER THIS MANNER, TO SLAY THE RIGHTEOUS WITH THE WICKED: AND THAT THE RIGHTEOUS SHOULB BE AS THE WICKED, THAT BE FAR FROM THEE: SHALL NOT THE JUDGE OF ALL THE EARTH DO RIGHT?
And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I WILL SPARE ALL THE PLACE FOR THEIR SAKES.
---
And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure TEN shall be found there. And he said, I WILL NOT DESTROY IT FOR TEN'S SAKE."
So there is no way God orders His angels to destroy, that is to "kill" His children together with the wicked world. Noway at all. My opinion.
a. I do not believe in a pre or mid tribulation rapture because Christ makes it clear in Mathew 24 that he will return immediately after the great tribulation.
b. God's day of wrath does not occur during the great tribulation. The great tribulation will be a time of testing for God's people as they are persecuted for the name of Jesus Christ. This will be worse than ever before because the man of sin will have been revealed. The abomination of desolation will be standing in the holy place. Jesus said that there will be huge demonic activity at this time.
The unbelievers will be eating and drinking, marrying, and working so they are not suffering the wrath of God at this time. In fact, they are not prepared for the wrath which is to come.
The bible does not describe the great tribulation as God's wrath.
c. During the great tribulation will experience testing worse than ever before
d. "So there is no way God orders His angels to destroy, that is to "kill" His children together with the wicked world. Noway at all. My opinion. "
Gianna, I agree with you that is why the great tribulation is separate to the day of wrath.
Just like Lot was removed from Sodom by the angels on the day of destruction when God poured out his wrath on that city, so it will be that Christ will send his angels to remove his saints from earth on the day of His wrath, before pouring out his wrath on the unbelievers.
We will be taken up to be with Christ whereupon he will begin to destroy the earth along with those unbelievers who remain on the earth.
This is all made clear in Mathew 24.
Revelation is best understood in the light of the clear teaching of Christ. Peter and Paul also address the end times with great clarity.
PS the bible does not state the duration of the great tribulation. In fact Christ says that nobody knows the day or the hour He will return except the Father.
There is no reason to believe that it lasts seven years based on the scriptures.
Jesus' words in Matthew and in Luke speak of Him returning at the end of the tribulation and then the wrath of God is poured out. Jesus says the tribulation will be cut short or else no one would survive, but it is cut short for the sake of the elect (who are still on the earth). When the wrath of God is poured out the heavens will be shaken causing interstellar disasters in space and the earth will be laid waste. But this happens so that God can re-create a new heaven and a new earth that is free from any corruption.
Peter also talks about this event in his second letter. ( 2nd Peter 3:10-12)
10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness."
When Christ returns, the heavens and the earth will be destroyed after which God will create a new heavens and new earth suited for habitation by Christ and his glorified saints.
This is our hope for the future.
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