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  • Jag on Revelation 2 - 1 year ago
    What is the meaning of"do the first works" as in V 5?

    Thanks
  • Don - In Reply on Revelation 2 - 1 year ago
    Jag,

    Continuing my comments, I should also say that since Revelation 2:5 is doctrinal in nature, then it would help you to study Paul's epistle to the Ephesians. It is rich in strength for the Christian, not only in the spiritual power it offers, (the gifts), but in the humility it promotes in using it. In fact Paul, in 3:8 coined a new Greek word to describe himself. He took the Greek superlative and attached to it the Greek comparative (Elakistoteros) to express to the Ephesians that he was "'Less than the least' of all the saints." All of our shirt tails should be popping in the breeze trying to match that.
  • Don - In Reply on Revelation 2 - 1 year ago
    JAG,

    In order to get to the heart of the meaning of Revelation 2:5, one must consider the context. Revelation 2:11 relates something extremely vital to understanding the exact meaning. Bible preservation is a vitally important doctrine of Christianity, not of the original manuscripts themselves, but of the God-inspired original text. Not just wispy bodies of thoughts and ideas, but the very words and meaning. That, God's perfect Word, is what God arbitrarily preserves through the human generations ( Mark 13:31, Psalm 12:6,7, John 12:48, and others), which God has identified as the KJV for the past four centuries. Note carefully that John becomes an amanuensis to the glorified Jesus Christ. The words John wrote were dictated by Jesus. They are His direct Words to these churches. Contextually, we can easily see that the Lord's Words are doctrinal in nature. Salvation is not by "works," so Jesus is saying that, over time, the saints of the Ephesian church had drifted into some wayward error. This isn't hard to believe, for virtually all the original churches had waned in doctrine in various degrees by the end of the first century. Therefore, it is vital to obey 2 Timothy 2:15, "Study to show thyself approved unto God.rightly dividing the Word of truth."
  • Jesse - In Reply on Revelation 2 - 1 year ago
    Jag,

    In revelation 2:5, Instruction is given to the church in Ephesus. It starts off by saying "Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen," Secondly, "and repent," and thirdly, "repeat the first work." So go back to the beginning in your approach to the things of Christ.

    Repentance means to make a decision for change. So, he says if you've lost the Lord as your number one priority, go back to the beginning and start over. You better evaluate where you stand. Repent. Repeat the first works in your surrender to Christ. Obviously it was not true repentance.

    And then in this same verse, we see the condemnation: He says or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove the lampstand out of its place, except you repent. The church at Ephesus was destroyed. There is no church in Ephesus, nor anywhere near Ephesus. They did not repent!
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Revelation 2 - 1 year ago
    Revelation 2,

    Could it be Revelation 2:19, Thy works "charity "? listed 1st,

    Also 1st Works old testament? Deuteronomy 26,

    Hopefully these are helpful



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