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  • Honey on Revelation 22
    This part of God's Word is where my hope lies. No matter what I go through before these things happen, I look forward to seeing my Savior come, receiving the full redemption of eternal life and being caught up to meet Him and forever be with my Lord!!! Hallelujah, Glory to His Name!!!
  • GiGi - in Reply
    Luke, I agree with Henry and Jesse,

    Simmer down and resist being combative here. We are all brethren and should not assess another's standing with God based on a few posts. This forum is a good place to express viewpoints, opinions, and Scriptural references and interpretations. Let's keep it like that instead of being vitriolic. Agape love bears all things, considers others above ourselves, looks out for the interests of others, is not contentious, and a number of other attributes spoken of in Scripture. We can practice these things every day in every circumstance. God's blessing upon you Luke. You have made some very good contributions here. I hope you will continue to do so, but lay off the acerbicness, please.
  • Jesse - in Reply
    My dear brother and sister in Christ (GiGi/Henry),

    I just wanted to thank you both for your kindness and support. Last night, I told myself that I was going to move far away from this thread, but then received notification of your messages and felt the need to thank you both. There is so much more that I would like to say but I think it would be best to just move on.



    God Bless both of you, and please, please, keep me in check if you feel I am being out of line with anyone in this forum. I do take those things to heart, and I trust and respect the both of you, along with many others here that I have come to know over these past few years. One thing that I can say with certainty, this person will never get another disagreement from me. I can promise that!
  • Henry - in Reply
    Jesse. One other point to make some of us oida God and some of us

    By grace Ginosko you can tell the difference.
  • Jesse - in Reply
    Henry, great point!

    It is by God's grace. Something I can share is that in Ephesians 1:17, it says, "That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

    Here is the literal translation when taken from the Greek: That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you, literally, (a spirit of wisdom and revelation), and literally, in the (full knowledge) of him:

    There is an EPI in front of the word Gnosko. It is by God's grace and the indwelling or abiding (MENO/Permanent abiding) of His Spirit in us that brings us into that full knowledge!

    Thanks my brother!
  • Henry - in Reply
    Jesse. I tell this to myself and other believers constantly on the cross our

    Brother said forgive them father for they know not what they do and another

    One in Hebrews 12:2 I can't begin to comprehend the who for the joy a spiritual

    Quality that was set before Him endured the cross dispising the shame this verse

    Is incredible. These things apply to all who are endeavoring to Agapeo so that being said I will see you here there or in the air brother.
  • GiGi - in Reply
    Dear Jesse,

    Glad to be there for you. I think both Henry and I desired to dampen down what seemed like hostility towards you. I have been blessed again and again by your posts. We have not agreed on everything, but we have been respectful to one another, addressing the content of our viewpoints expressed here without attacking one another's character. That is appreciated. I, too, think this thread should close. We can always pray for one another when things get dicey. God's blessing upon you, Henry, and Luke today.
  • Jesse - in Reply
    GiGi,

    Again, thank you for your encouraging kindness. Likewise, I have been blessed by the things you've shared. I've also learned a lot from your posts, mainly the things you share covering Old Testament. I have to admit, that is my weaker area of study, so what you share on OT is very helpful.

    And yes, may the Lord continue to bless you, Henry, and Luke also!
  • Luke - in Reply
    The Discussions on this website allow Bible readers to interact, encourage, share, and discuss scripture and related topics. To help preserve this special community, please ensure your comments are respectful, uplifting, consistent with Christian values, and meet the following guidelines. This applies to all comments, questions, replies, prayer requests, and testimonies. For example...

    The "With all due respect" is never respectful, it's just the opposite
  • Luke - in Reply
    And it's everyone who teaches the rapture is doing the conditioning the word "you" is used as in general
  • Luke - in Reply
    OR What? You're saying They can be disrespectful.
  • GiGi - in Reply
    Dear Luke,

    I hope you have a good night. I am off this thread for the night.
  • Luke - in Reply on Revelation 22
    It's going to be a real bad day for those who think Christ is going to do a fly by.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Revelation 22
    Luke,

    With all due respect sir, "Caught up to meet Him" is not called a "fly by." It is what many believers call the rapture of the church. It will not be a bad day for those who believe in the rapture. The bad day will be for those who are left behind!
  • Luke - in Reply on Revelation 22
    Jessie

    I Emphatically disagree with you,,, had you read my "For what it's worth" post, or replied to it, you could have learned something.

    So to be clear, "with all due respect" The Rapture is a soul hunt, you are helping to program people into believing Christ comes first when He does NOT,,, you have been conditioned/programmed into worshiping Satan when he arrives on the scene FIRST with this Rapture doctrine, Had you read my breakdown of 1 Thessalonians 4:17. You guy's are doing exactly what Paul said NOT to do in His 2nd letter to the Thessalonians, Sir
  • Henry - in Reply on Revelation 22
    Luke. With all due respect before Revelation begins which is the judgement

    Of Jesus Christ or wrath against all unbelief of which the Church Epistles state

    That we who are born again are saved from because we are God's Sons and Daughters in Christ and our sins are paid for so Christ will come for His Church

    First. Also In defence of the truth for someone to state that another brother is

    Being Influenced by Satan or controlled mentally is extremely out of walking in God's Love and not judging correctly spiritually. Our first priority is to walk in

    Agapeo renewed mind love also according to Corinthians 13:5 The love of God

    Thinketh no evil just because someone doesn't agree with what you see biblically

    Doesn't make them spiritually screwed up, we who believe fight for each other

    Not against.
  • Luke - in Reply on Revelation 22
    Being disrespectful IS walking in Gods love? Whatever lol !
  • Luke - in Reply on Revelation 22
    Thank you! "With all due respect" tops the list of rude phrases

    Are you really showing respect when you say "With all due respect?" That phrase topped the list of rude phrases and words. Why it is disrespectful? What invariable follows that phrase is a negative attack.

    It is rare when a positive statement is made following "With all due respect." As a result, when this phrase is used, the other party becomes immediately defensive and irritated.

    A vicious attack-defense spiral has been initiated that is difficult to break though. It you want to disagree, first acknowledge what the other party has said, make sure you have clarification and then state why you disagree. Using "With all due respect" draws the conversation away from a goal of reaching agreement because the emotions get in the way of problem solving.

    Thank you Henry, and Jessie!
  • Jesse - in Reply on Revelation 22
    Luke,

    You say that I "have been conditioned/programmed into worshiping Satan when he arrives on the scene?" That would be impossible since I have the Spirit of Christ in me. I am under the influence and persuasion of God's Spirit. Satan no longer has control over me. Please let me respectfully say that I am perfectly fine with you disagreeing with me. Really, I am. If you do not believe in a rapture, I have no issue with you. I do believe in the rapture so why would you have an issue with me for believing in the rapture? I guess we will just have to remain in disagreement. I respect your belief, and you should respect mine. And by the way, I did read your "breakdown" of 1 Thessalonians 4:14. All I can say in response to your breakdown is that I would agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong!
  • Luke - in Reply on Revelation 22
    It's your ship, you're the captain, sail on brother, you say you did read my breakdown, and you still poked the bear? Why is it you can express your opinion, but take issue when I express mine, knowing that I disagree, you didn't want to have a discussion then, but you want to poke now?

    That Is my opinion, The Rapture doctrine is a soul hunt designed to steal souls, it doesn't matter if you got Christ in you now, when a person worships the devil he dies a spiritual death, he is no longer a Christian, he's a devil worshiper,,, you aint the first person I've had the discussion with, and you wont be the last,,,
  • Luke - in Reply on Revelation 22
    Jessie

    You're the one taking issue, I disagreed, then gave my opinion on the rapture,,,simmer down.
  • Alex N - in Reply on Revelation 22
    Jesse the Kingdom of God is gonna be with in us....Not up in the clouds...Rev.11:15 The Kingdoms of this world have become the Kingdoms of our LORD and his Christ and he will reign for ever and ever...Right here on this earth....As Jesus said the Kingdom of God is gonna be with in you...Not here or there but with in you...If we were caught up in the air it wd expose womans nakedness...And God does not want that....And the manchild will rule all nations right here on this earth...As Jesus said thy kingdom come thy will be done on EARTH as it is in heaven...We don't need to go any where....The Kingdom is coming to earth...via the seed of the sower sown in mans hearts.

    Remember Jesus said the Kingdom of God will come as a man who sows seed in his field....Then he tells us our hearts are the Field where that good seed will be sown...John was caught up to God and to his throne....But his body was still on the isle of PATMOS....And Paul writes to some who were already sitting in heavenly places with Christ Jesus....You are come unto mt. Zion the city of the living God that heavenly Jerusalem...But their bodies had not gone anywhere....Simply b/c the Kingdom was within them...So when ya talk about some are gona be taken and some are gonna be left...Its in the spirit...As the Kingdom of God is spirit...In the air is just symbolic of in the spirit...On the day of Pentecost that mighty rushing wind was the spirit the H.G....They didn't need to go anywhere to receive it...It was a baptism of the H.G. Right here on this earth....The Promise..ok Gbu
  • Henry - in Reply on Revelation 22
    Jesse. More of a fly to or with than by and no wings woopeee!
  • Luke - in Reply on Revelation 22
    Yes Indeed, the brightness of His coming will be so bright that it will blot out even the Sun AND the Stars, Praise God.

    It's the (Caught up) to meet Him tis the part am referring to in which many misinterpret, it's good to see You don't, and it's good to know U, don't, Honey.

    Rev 22 IS a fantastic chapter, Praise God.
  • Delilah - in Reply on Revelation 22
    Honey , don't let anyone steal your joy in the Lord , he is coming and you shall see him and be with him forever . God has made many beautiful promises to us and we shall be like him , this means you and me . I agree Revelation Ch 21 and 22 always cheer me up when this world is dragging me down . Rejoice in the Truth and in your Saviour . Nothing in this life can touch you if you keep your eyes on Him .
  • Honey - in Reply
    Yes, Luke! Satan WILL appear before Christ comes. The brightness of Christ's coming is what will bring his domination to an end, at least for a thousand years, when we will dwell with Christ without his influence.
  • Luke - in Reply on Revelation 22
    This part of God's word is misinterpreted,,, It's Satan who's first on the scene sweetie, Jesus comes after



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