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  • John Stephan on Mark 8 - 1 year ago
    Why did it take Jesus two attempts to heal the blind man from Bethsaida?
  • David - In Reply on Mark 8 - 1 year ago
    John Something to consider is the bible is an eastern book with eastern thought, the reason I mention this is the word

    spread that Jesus Christ was a holy Man. Now even to this day in the middle east a holy mans spittle is believed to have

    healing power so the times when Jesus Christ used spittle was because God told him to. If someone was not healed

    immediately it had nothing to do with gods power it had everything to do with the unbelief he was surrounded by. When he

    raised lazarus from the dead nobody believed he was going to do it that's why he wept and also that's why he said out loud

    I know my father always hears me and then said out loud Lazarus come forth. Nothing has changed people still don't believe

    God can move that big.
  • Giannis - In Reply on Mark 8 - 1 year ago
    It has to do with the person's faith, not with Jesus' power. Initially the blind man's faith was not adequate to get a total healing from Jesus. But after he saw people like trees his faith was lifted up to get a complete healing. It doesn't have to do with Jesus' power but with the person's faith. Jesus used that man to teach us how important is one's faith if they want to get something from God Without faith one gets nothing from God. So have faith in your heart.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Mark 8 - 1 year ago
    (Part 2)

    John,

    The message being brought out in Mark Chapter 8 can be understood by what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 13:12, where he says that now we see through a glass darkly, dimly. Everything is blurred. Obscure. But when we see Him face to face, then we will know all things.

    And so it is interesting that Jesus healed him to a point where he could see things in a blurred fashion, and then healed him so that he could see all things clearly. And that's what Messiah does.



    When we see Him face-to-face, He's going to make all things clear. And Jesus said I am the one.



    In fact, there were many things that the Jews would celebrate, and they said we don't know the meaning of a lot of these things, but when Messiah comes, He's going to show us.



    So Jesus is showing them that with my power, you'll be able to see in this life, even though it will be dimly, it will be blurred, but then when you see me face to face, I'll make all things clear to you.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Mark 8 - 1 year ago
    John,

    Here's what took place with the healing of this man. In Mark 8:22, Jesus comes to Bethsaida; and they bring a blind man to Him and besought Him to touch the man.

    Here's another instance where they said we want you to touch him. They can't just trust Him to say it. They want Jesus to touch him. But it was important to them for Jesus to touch him according to a Jewish custom.

    In Verse 23, Jesus took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town. You see, Jesus was not a sensationalist. He led him out of town; and when He had spit on his eyes, He put his hands upon him, and asked him if he saw anything.



    Now spitting was not just your normal spittoon and tobacco type spitting, but to the Jews, spitting was a sign of extraction. Even in judgment, they would spit on the ground.



    But for the blind, it was interesting that they actually spit on their eyes, because the blind person does not know what you are doing. And if you spit on his eyes, he knows that you are going to extract the blindness. So Jesus put His hands on him and asked him if he saw anything.

    The man looked up and said, I see men as trees, walking. He had blurred vision. What's going on here? Didn't Jesus heal him correctly? Well, there are some Jewish customs and doctrine that is being presented here.

    Mark 8:25 says, "After that he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly." This makes it seem as it took Jesus two attempts to heal this man, but there's a message being presented here.

    The Jews believed that man, the human being, has two kinds of vision. And Paul brought this out in 1 Corinthians 13:12, which was the Jewish version of vision. In 1 Corinthians 13:12, Paul says, now we see through a glass darkly, dimly. Everything is blurred. Obscure.

    But when we see Him face to face, then we will know all things.



    I need more space so I will send a part 2.

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  • T. Levis - In Reply on Mark 8 - 1 year ago
    Mark 8:22-26, this seems to be the same account witnessed by John: John 9, whole chapter, note: Exodus 4:11, & John 9:1,3,32,33,39,

    Matthew 9:27-31, notice: Mark 10:47-52, this guys "faith, immediately" Luke 18:35-43, notice, the situation you referred to: John 9:35-39,

    Psalms 146:8, Isaiah 29:18, Isaiah 35:5,6, Isaiah 42:1-21, here in: Matthew 11:5, Luke 7:22, Jesus pointed out the fulfilled prophecy in those ancient scriptures. Matthew 15:31,

    Mark 6:1-6,

    The mind is a powerful thing, Mark 9:23, Mark 11:23,24, Mark 16:17,

    Luke 8:49-50, even death Jesus said "fear not: believe only" ._.

    Was it the man's doubt?

    Was it an example to not give up, keep trying, keep seeking the miraculous, healings? To encourage us to press on, keep believing, keep trying. (?) or all the above._.



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