Bible Discussion Thread

  • Douglas j Kleeves
    Isa baby born into Sin according to the KJV Bible
  • Jessica - in Reply
    All have sinned! We are born WITH sin...we are not born with the understanding of how or why we do the things we naturally do. Such as cry when there is nothing wrong with us (lies) just to get picked up...OR hit our sisters/brothers because they took our toy. BUT we are sinful creatures from birth! The only way to gain a new nature is through the blood of Jesus!

    Romans 5:12

    "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:"
  • David - in Reply
    Hi Jessica That is correct we are born natural man totally antagonistic to the things of God until either by instruction from

    believing parents or communication from another believer or direct intervention from the father we are born again and receive

    Power from on high i.e. confess Romans 10:9+10 And believe it in the innermost part of our being heart. We have sinful blood

    the only innocent person with perfect or sinless blood was Jesus christ.
  • Chris - in Reply
    Hi Douglas. I don't believe that a baby is born into sin. I do believe that a baby is born with a sin nature, a nature that each one of us inherits from our parents and that going all the way back to Adam & Eve. King David said it well in Psalm 51:5: "I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me." He saw that even as far back as being in the womb, that this developing embryo not only had the beginnings of bodily organs in preparation for life outside the womb, but was also the recipient of the unseen essence that its parents would naturally transfer to him: that of a fallen sin nature.

    The sin nature is within the embryo & within the newborn baby. But that sin nature hasn't yet been tested by the forces that will come upon the child. The child remains pure, yet disadvantaged by inheriting this nature that will give it a propensity to sin one day. Once a child does wrong & then is at an age of understanding the wrongdoing (whether learned from parents or that inner sense of conviction), the child can be said to be a sinner. Even though a new-born baby gives all the cues of fresh new life growing into adulthood, the fact remains that the sin nature within unfortunately gives the guarantee that the process of dying has already commenced. A very sad thing to state for sure, but that is the consequence of having the sin nature & then of committing sin ( Romans 5:12). We are not responsible for receiving the sin nature - we are responsible for the sin we commit as a result of it.

    The product of our sinful nature & of sin will result in death, but thanks be to God for the Gift of His Son Jesus Christ & the promise of forgiveness & eternal life through Him ( Romans 6:23) - that our spirits can be renewed & received by Him, because of trusting in Jesus, our Salvation.
  • David - in Reply
    Douglas When we look at ephesians 2:1-3 now some people teach we were children of satan. It says disobedient because we

    were born seperated from God no spiritual connection we only had the five senses as communication. Before being born again

    we were walking Ephesians 4:17-19 as it says as other gentiles walked.

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