Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Jeremiah Charles - 1 year ago
    I am trying to understand, were there Christians before Jesus', (example 521 AD?
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    1st called Christian: Acts 11:26
  • Suze - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Jeremiah , before Jesus , the Jews were aware that God was going to send them a Messiah , read what Jesus says in John Ch 8 V 52-58 and also Genesis Ch 22 V 7+8 . Obviously we wouldn't strictly speaking call Abraham a Christian , but for sure he knew about and understood God's plan of salvation and if we read the old testament carefully we will see that Abraham was not the only one who did .
  • DAVID - In Reply - 1 year ago
    HI SUZE Something from Gods word in Galatians 3:22+23 it says before faith came we were under the law,spiritual

    faith came by Jesus Christ on Pentecost before that you could believe God but not have spiritual faith inside by holy

    spirit. There a greek word called pistis and when you look it up it was translated either believing or faith by the translators.

    abraham was justified by works in that he believed God and it was counted to him as righteousness. In the old testament

    no person had spiritual faith in them i.e. born again because it was not possible till pentecost.
  • Suze - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi David , thanks for your reply to me , I believe Abraham was justified by faith , please consider Hebrews Ch 11 , Luke Ch 24 V 36-39 and V 46 , John Ch 5 V 36-39 and V 46 , Job Ch 19 V 24 , Genesis Ch 18 V 17-19 , Psalm 16 , Isaiah Ch 13 V 12 , Ch 42 V 1-9 , Ch 45 V 5-25 , Ch 49 V 1-10 and Ch 60 . Much love in Christ .
  • David - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jeremiah In addition to what I shared before since spiritual faith wasn't available until pentecost even the disciples did not

    have spiritual faith because they received it on PENTECOST REMEMBER Acts 1:4-8 so in the old testament they could believe

    GOD but not have the spiritual faith of Jesus Christ after pentecost the word pistis in the greek was translated either believing

    or faith by the translators. Now abraham believed God and it was accounted unto him and many others believed God but that

    is not being born again of spiritual FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST.
  • David - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Jeremiah Before the day of pentecost it was not available to receive holy spirit or be born again of Gods spirit, in

    GALATIANS 3:23 the scripture says before faith came, Jesus Christ made spiritual faith available. So you could not be

    a christian until pentecost when it became available.
  • Adam - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello,

    BC = Before Christ

    AD = Year of the Lord

    You have anti-God people trying to gaslight by pretending these acronyms mean something else other than Jesus, for instance new history books likely won't show the above.

    Jesus was on earth 33 years.

    Some believe Jesus was born 4BC-6BC and left 27AD-29AD.

    The nature of the calendar itself indicates some believed Jesus was born 1 AD.

    521 AD in your example would be nearly 500 years after Jesus.



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